absolutely not true, discipline isn't the issue here. You could say that for a lot of other chinese teams but if you actually analyse how FPX play they do pretty smart set plays and don't over agress when they don't need to

Say that again

People were arguing that china didn't even deserve to get a 1 spot invitation to last years LANs because EDG lost their first 3 international games, then look at what they did in Tokyo and Champs. These teams from China are obviously going to need time to improve, they aren't just gonna be insane right from the start. It's called an investment, if you've actually been watching the chinese scene you wouldnt be saying this because of how fast random teams are improving, the speed is crazy

Bro the firewall just focuses on banning major foreign internet tools like facebook google etc. as well as anything including porn/violence/certain terms. Vlr is accessible like many other foreign sites but it's just pretty hard to find cause most people in China use baidu search engine. Even the english wikipedia page for tiannamen protests is accesible in China 💀

Lysoar is usually one of their best players, him being the weakest link is very heavy recency bias. If not it's him not being used to playing on internationals but he'll adapt soon

He showed up when he had to its chill

I see, good insight

When will people realise that the way some teams play make other teams look like they're throwing

NRG lost to judges on 1 map bro, the other 3 they just got diffed. Even on ascent

Don't you think FPX would counter the G2 style which plays very standard valorant

We'll see

I think aspas will just aim diff them

honestly respect

FPX can beat Gen.G, not LEV tho

LMAOO nrg catching yet another stray

the cope is crazy

You recognize me right

we'll see DRG lose 💀

Been an OG guard fan since 2+ years ago, what a ride it's been. So happy for them

valyn is the goat

Valyn has been underrated for so long it's incredible how good he is

I understand the copying strats thing it did actually help develop them as a team but they're like fnatic now in the sense that they just stuck to this for way too long idk how the coach hasn't realised it's time to go back to more of the cn style, they're trying to beat other teams at what they're already good at

Fr and jawg is as flexible as icy if not more it's exactly what they needed

EDG coach thinks copying the strats from teams like FNATIC will get them playing "proper" valorant but in reality this doesn't play to China's unique strength of thriving in chaotic and aggressive moments - sure they can copy but they'll never exceed. I disagree that it's all for nothing though, EDG struggled a lot with closing maps out and keeping their lead before they started copying strats - they used to be the ultimate chokers. By playing more standard they've fixed a lot of their weaknesses especially when kk's rifling wasn't as good and he had to rely on the OP too much. Now he can do both extremely well. The next step for EDG is to go halfway back to that style now that they have so much experience: be more aggressive, use the attack OP - this is what actually made China scary for teams to face

I think FPX will do a lot better than EDG at shanghai because they've embodied a lot of the CN unpredictable style while having fixed a lot of their fundamental mistakes at Madrid which cost them a win against KC & LOUD (It was way closer than people think)

Good take

I guess so

Trace make me proud

The last time EDG went against 100T it was a gigabanger series all OTs

We need more posts like this

downvoted for the truth

"if anything NA is as strong as ever" nahh stop coping bro

pl1xx not been doing well on any role lmao why you making him seem like a victim or smth

that's true but also took them quite a while to adjust

What..? If role issues aren't an issue why do you think orgs don't just pick up the 5 best available duelists (most easy role to find in China) and make them play other roles, use your brain please - you have 3 players who have almost only played duelist for the past 2 years

role issues, you have 3 duelists. Zmjjkk + Life could work tho especially if you run the FPX comps where Life plays yoru, they used to be coduelist teammates in EDG too

Looks like it has REALLY well, smoggy on smokes has been really good - I mean what can this guy not play atp

No this combination of players is awful

no proof of that, dont spread misinformation

I think you missed that he was joking too

EDG having an identity crisis atm, they're switching around comps and roles cause clearly they need some type of change after the LOUD incident. Smoggy and Haodong have switched roles, at least Haodong is still on a role (setup initiator) that suits IGLing. I don't think it's necessarily a bad idea, it's important for them to experiment while they still can

EDG is exprementing with new comps and switching roles around atm, smoggy on smokes now haodong on setup initiator. As for kk I'm not sure

downvoted for the truth

BLG did fall of for a while they were losing to random unknown teams after B1ank stopped IGLing for them but now they're back after they brought in a competent IGL

Wait my pickems might actually be the script

So glad I bet on TEC, no one believed smh

oh ok I get what you mean

LMAO no not actually tweaking I hate drugs I meant just looking like I'm a tweaker 💀

Bro I'm immo 10k I'm just tweaking all the time fym shit

I swear I only have insane aim when tweaking it's actually becoming an issue atp

jkuro's calling was so all over the place