True that does seem to work out quite well

God looking at the teams, wouldn't Viva fit perfectly into TYLOO to replace Yoyo. That team looks crazy, ig issue is slowly alr IGLs

But yeah Trace is sooo.. unknown? Like one day they look incredible next day they are bottom 3, genuinely dont know whats going on with them

Guess it's hard to say cause meta might change a lot, I do think Yoru will probably stay tho

EDG's biggest problem isn't their players, it's their complete lack of understanding of the meta and a good mid-round plan (mostly thanks to Muggle), Autumn isn't the best coach but at least understands the game more

I mean no one saw S1mon as a great move either until he started getting way better over time, he had haters just like Jieni did. Jieni improvement has been really fast, you kinda forget that players can get better. If EDG didn't pick up these rookies and give em a chance we wouldnt have even had S1mon champ

EDG scouting team IS very strange though, like comparatively how is RA consistently finding and producing these crazy players is beyond me.

yeah idk why that comparison was even brought up.

I mean no zhe is a shame but how would they fit him into the roster though, do you think he's as flexible as jieni? I haven't watched that much RA so idrk

I think NOVA with Viva would be incredibly good

do you even watch EDG, if his mechanics aren't good enough than neither are nobodys or smoggys

Will never understand why people who clearly don't know enough give such strong opinions. I don't give takes on regions or teams I don't watch

who said anything about those 2?? Him not being as good as them doesn't mean he has bad mechanics

Idk why people keep ganging up on jieni, dude's mechanics are pretty good - def better than nobody and even smoggy's aim (coming from a smoggy glazer)

I know

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No way Chengdu Hunters YaoXie, fucking legend

AUTUMN TO EDG???? W

Clem supremacy

what..? I watched the matches and arguably he was the least impactful. Maybe igl nerf

Lysoar back to FPX, especially with the yosemite personality clash issue

Ofc, no hate to S1mon though. We all make mistakes when we're young

Who's a realistic option and someone you want as a coach for EDG

Me personally I think TE destroyer would be amazing, his strats training & timeouts have always been top level. And I think his style would mesh very well with their strengths and playstyle (unlike AfteR hhh)

I think you should consider the details, EDG members were getting non stopped harassed by fans (including Smoggy getting doxxed, and death threats to the others etc) because of S1mon's comments on stream hinting towards this/that which painted a wrong picture. To think "what the team has done to him publicily" isn't a fair narrative or judgement because it was in each individual member's best interest to defend themselves and put the truth of the situation to light. Actions have consequences, you can't expect to do something obviously wrong (and it's stated very clearly in contracts to keep things like this private) without expecting any backlash whatsoever

You're probably the most sane person ik on this site

All the members were defending themselves? After S1mon kept hinting towards supposed "mistreatment" and badmouthing the others on stream, fans started harassing all the other members (some going as far to doxxing smoggy). I'm not sure why you've automatically interpreted it as scapegoating, they are addressing what S1mon claimed, to which he had no response to. There was no "blaming him for everything", I think you've misunderstood

My washed KONE veteran

Whoever is talent scout for RA needs a raise

Wdym? The old Trace (TTG) match fixing scandal was concluded like 3 years ago.

holy shit that's fire

in their run up to champs, Jieni was a top 2 player on EDG. He's performed well and very consistently on any role (raze, neon, waylay, breach, kayo, tejo, omen, deadlock). He's arguably more flexible than Smoggy now and has a very good understanding of util and has good impact with it. Also mechanically one of the best on EDG too

jieni looks so promising, they need a coach like TE destroyer

ODG look hella promising with that roster ngl

2-0

Smuggle 💀

Tf do you mean by sus

OD looks so stacked. So much potential

Same

What a weirdo you are

Now get destroyer from trace, and EDG actually will be so back

FINALLY OH MY GOD

Lysoar got potential though he's usually their best performing player but gets nervous internationally, in their last few matches at toronto he was back to his usual self and not inting

He wasn't performing very well for quite a long time in CN tbf, even TMV the biggest fan thinks Juicy has been the worst performing player and after watching their matches I agree

Kind of get it

Most of the time performed really badly in CN for some weird reason

I think it's a confidence thing like he has this in him but he just doesn't play confident and instead really passive

Since when was he this good, this is actually ridiculous

??? He was the last person to want to play yoru, he eventually gave in to learning it when Nobody and Jieni yoru did not work. Blame the coach

Not really it was like over 2 splits, and including EWC too. They kept trying to force the old comps they used to use (breach + kayo), with both jieni (whos util has been extremely good tbh) and zjc (who didnt do great not sure why)

Tbf they tried to avoid yoru for half the year and they were losing really bad, which led them to believe that was the reason and they just needed someone to learn it

I'd like them to go back to kk on raze/neon/jett too but they've prob alr pracced and scrimmed so much with these current comps

Also yes Muggle has had a very bad track record, his timeout winrate I think is the lowest out of all the teams here. Also very bad meta read on Corrode when it first came out too

Ik lmao I agree with you, put him on raze

Tell the coach, KK was the last person who wanted to learn yoru. Only reverted to this after trying nobody and jieni yoru

Yoru is a very different agent, similar to how Aspas isn't great on him either and struggles to learn him.

Something was an incredibly flexible player who played initiators too which has many transferrable skills to yoru

Well yeah what's your point, ofc he looks less comfortable on yoru compared to his neon/jett/raze etc. Imo they can do double duelist but without yoru

They can still give up Yoru, they can do double duelist without Yoru. I get why they're trying it so hard, cause Yoru is very meta, but yea KK just doesnt suit Yoru. He's so much more comfortable on Neon it's insane