SEN is broke lol

It's too early to say that Alfajer is the best player in FNATIC and that he's not interchangeable with Chronicle and Leo. Wait after the end of tourney, I have no doubt that Alfajer will display himself as the best player in FNC but right now it's still up to debate.

Ah yes, but he's 21 years old, isn't he?. 19 Leo. 18 Alfajer. You can make arguments from all side. If Leo was just hired in the right circumstances 2 months before some team got to play internationally he would also perform the same and you would likely be left impressed in the same way too.

Conscious and deliberate mental operation. Have you heard of Leo? I heard he just focuses on improving every game, like almost single-mindedly.

Your principle can also be applied to gamesense in competitive in general. Like why you died, why were you in a disadvantageous position in the first place, and try to seek for a play that is more consistent in general not that you were lucky or unlucky.

I don't know about that. It's probably some pro we've never heard. We don't know the routine of Something, how hard he trains, and that can give the impression that he is just naturally talented when his results are just the tip of the iceberg buttressed by insane work ethics and discipline and a reasonably large spade of talent surely.

Definitely. World-class ethics is a must and a necessary factor. The other factors come later. The quality of work, professional support system, diet, etc.

Oh, I definitely agree on that. For instance, pros in general have a more efficient way of practicing and thus would stand to yield more from the equal amount of hours compared to your casual average joe. There are too many factors and I am glad you included the support system which had escaped my mind at the time.

What do you think about natural talent? Do you think some people can process info better and juggle more variables?

True, I guess you can always work harder but you can't become more talented lol and which is what separates super diligent players.

It's definitely tough to extricate this supposed talent from the result because, well, you only see the result -- but there still definitely that natural factor.

Hard work beats talent, if talent fails to work hard.

Oh, oh. Where did you hear it from? stream? That's really interesting.

Good point. I also see it as a perfect storm of myriad factors.

But so I imagine almost everyone in Tier 1! I mean they do it for a living in an increasingly more competitive environment.

Or do they work harder than everyone else?

Do you think Leo and Alfajer are talented?

The cloud over Tokyo is raining anime girls and shok darts, Leo is ice cold, EMEA royal genes running in his vein, ahead him is the most Turkish looking Turkish with the most Turkish superior genes Alfa.

"What if Turkey and Sweden got together and have baby?" Alfajer whispers and immediately pounces on Leo who doesn't exercise his lightning fast reflex to dodge as he normally would. They both give each other a French kiss, Sweden kiss, Turkish kiss and make passionate love to each other.

Both are pregnant and lactating. They start a dynasty and conquer NA. NA has been conquered. And then they sell NA for free to Russia. Boaster twerks and all of NA falls down and worships him as a symbol of the day EMEA dominated NA.

Chronicle grabs all his three trophies and bonks every single resident of NA as a rite of dominance. This happens annually.

Derke headbuts every newborn in NA as part of EMEA dominance ritual. Only 50% of NA newborns survive... the survivors have to shave their head and be bald to pay respect to the king.

Yinsu is the only name allowed for girls in NA as part of EMEA dominance ritual.

Every male is to be named Kamyk. Last name is Mini.

EMEA Is top. NA is bottom.

EDIT: Emea no longer top! Demon1 is the savior of NA! He has vanquished the foes! All the women in EMEA now belong to Demon1 as concubines, his prize money, his glory! Demon1 dynasty! Annually hundreds of millions of EMEA citizens travel to NA to get personally t-bagged at the speed of light by Demon1.

And Leo punched Alfa for not clutching enough and now they are divorced

His peeks were so sharp and practiced.

Career switch you mean. He should turn to content creation. His career is over.

He should turn to content creation like SHahzam

Relatively. Compared to other world class players like less, leo, alfa, derke, aspas to whom he is and/or was considered equal if not better for the longest time.

Let's face it: yay is a shell of his former self without the broken agent and top 3 IGL to babywalk him and control him like a puppet. FNS was right when he asked if yay missed him and he should.

You aren't really a world-class player or at least the best player in the world if you need a top 3 IGL, setup, broken agent to succeed. Also, I know he earned his appellation as el diablo on Jett but that's way back then, ancient times, when meta was completely different, players were new and yes, Jett was also broken at the time. I see a pattern. He only succeeds with broken agents. His skillset is uniquely catered to broken agents, that's his real talent. Being good with broken agents. He's not flexible and naturally good in game sense and aim like derke, aspas, less, leo, alfa, mako, etc. He's a good player. Great player. But nope, not the best player, nope not top 5, nope not even top 10, nope not even top 15. That's the bottomline rational deduction.

His real skill levels were exposed after he got diff'd and destroyed in Tier 2 scene and now he is kicking up a fuss about his teammates too.

Now I can already anticipate objections. His team was bad. Yes. The team chemistry was bad. Yes. But you can't really say his teammates hijacked and tinkered with his hardware because he was missing a lot of shots he should've hit as a tier 1 player or at least the supposed best player in the world. Derke and Aspas would hit them and I see them performing better.

There are scenarios where the impact from his teammates is minimized or non-existence and it's all about individual factors, and he was a REAL let down in those. His mechanical skills and gamesense were iffy but they are obscured by his team being bad, which is true, but still doesn't extenuate his individual bad performance. And they are also not given attention because he's a wholesome bear or something.

Yay is a good player, maybe even a tier 1 player perhaps, but I wouldn't put him in top 10 or even top 20 for that matter.

And you get off his dick bro.

Fuck you NA scum.

They had robbed FPX of the victory and their only saving grace was the first tournament victory which means virtually nothing.

Their glory is built upon shoddy and dubious platform. They have contributed nothing to the health of the game outside stupid drama.

I'm serious. Their only relevant and legit achievement is OpTic making it to Grand Finals in Champions. Outside of that, their both Reykjavik wins were dubious to say the least. Sentinels farming pros that were immortal 3 of today's standard (game was new) except for maybe Derke.

FPX didn't participate, people keep bitching about Something's absence but the whole team (best in the world at the time arguably) was absent.

Also, PRX making it to grand finals > EG making it to grand finals. So, I think even pacific has the edge over NA.

Trent flopping on LAN just shows how overrated their talent are. They are only "talents" within the framework of NA.

The amount of copium in all of NA and EMEA = The amount of copium in all of NA. EMEA's contribution to the whole is as negligable as the mass of an electron to the atomic mass of an atom.

Leaf deserves a region better than NA.

Common EMEA W and even more common NA L

Check your eyes if you see something radiating through your dorito-stained screen you fat American fuck. Maybe something is wrong with your brain and it's misinterpreting the light that are hitting your eye cells.

You are the one deflecting by ignoring that the only tournament Floptic won was when FPX didn't participate.

You must be single-handedly hogging all the COPIUM NA desperately needs right now. Shame on you.

babysasuke being owned is like the sun rising every morning, just like NA snatching defeat from the jaws of victory. Nothing surprising here.

I am not like you, but I won't judge if you say that to a mirror regularly.

Why are you naming teams that FNC have enslaved? Keep coping.

Even if that were true that's better than NA brain not being able to even read. How many Europeans dick did you suck or pay them to read and write for you?

You are stupid.

Because they don't like robbing (NA's fluke specialty) and are trying to gain one legitly.

New game, Sentinels can and cab drivers crushers. FPX didn't participate in Reykjavik. PRX grand final against FPX > Floptic grand final against LOUD.

EG cindrella runners. 0-3'd.

You should have used italic so that we can better know that you are crying like a obedient dog.

Logic and reason debunks Sentinels and OpTic's fluke wins as everyone with a brain knows. The only legit claim they have is Floptic grand final Champions placement. EG cinderella run is clear for everyone to see.

Cry is free, dogmuricans.

If they didn't cope there would be mass depression, I guess we can let them cope out of pity. Reality isn't for smooth-brained soft-hearted dogmericans.

That's true. EG and NRG contributed to this whole fiasco NA fans have to deal with.

NA dying doesn't mean VAL is dying too.

But don't say that out loud because they will cry.

That's what most NA fans can't help but exclaim when they taste the cum, some rage and cope as you can see in this thread.

The zero team region only has fluke wins in its archives. Stop bringing up FNATIC, Chronicle's right toe alone is more valuable than NA. More trophies than NA, and they are actual legit trophies too.

The land is free.

What they had at Reykjavik was an easier win because FPX didn't participate, once FPX participated the next tournament, suddenly "their form" was atrocious? Lol. Maybe they are related? Use your brain which you likely don't have.

Their fluke win at Copenhagen doesn't change the fact that they were destroyed by FPX you mean. Also, DRX and FPX > OpTic.

NA is free dogmerican.

The pool of cum from our circlejerking is more valuable than all of NA combined. More contribution and praiseworthiness.

Yay and Marved being in their prime form were cleared comfortably by FPX the very next tournament. And once the game was more balanced, they slipped under the radar. Marved was exposed towards the end of the recent NA regional tournament. Though he's still better than nay.