Are you forgetting about fnatic they are literally the best aimers in the world who also happen to be 1 of the greatest at strategy and anti strating as well

Yes but also they are different games for cs if you don’t qualify it’s fine there’s not that much pressure as there are so many tournaments but in valorant there is 3 a year so every team is fighting desperately like their life depends on it as don’t forget the league want only deciding who gets to go to masters but also champions as well
Plus this is the 1st year and season of franchising there is a lot more media things such as more photo shoots and interviews they are not used to it so it could be burn out as this is the 1st year they doing it so it might be that it is taking some teams longer to adjust than others
Also in valorant you don’t only have to think about where your opponent is gonna throw a flash or smoke how they are gonna play a map. You also have to think about what comp your opponent is gonna use how they are gonna use the specific util of the comp they are using which is different for every agent while also thinking about how their opponent is gonna play the map such as how they are going to set up and stuff like that. They are 2 games that are similar yet very different and in terms of the mental aspect valorant is more draining as there is more to think about as agents and the ever changing meta means if you want to stay at the top you can’t stop thinking for even a second

Just ignore him I think he’s talking about the 2022 1 as well which actually makes the statement more stupid as gambit as an org disbanded and a lot of the staff couldn’t or didn’t follow the gambit members to m3c, derke fnatics star player and another player on fnatic couldn’t play they were playing with 2 subs and fpx couldn’t attend at all he’s clearly a loud fan who thinks international tournaments only matter if loud are making it far guarantee you thinks coppenhagen is even worse than this one as loud got knocked out even earlier

Yeah they have to beat fnatic a team with at least top 3 in every role in the world, the team with the best fundamentals and mechanics we have probably ever seen their aim is ridiculous and their util and their igl is the player with the best 1v1 record in all of franchising in any of the 3 leagues.
plus what eg are doing trying unique comps and ideas fnatic are the kings of that. the amount of metas they have set that are used worldwide is frightening and they have been doing it consistently since either early 2021 or even 2020.
so even in terms of coaches and strategies they don’t hold any advantage fnatic is pretty much the worst opponent they could face.

Well sentinels at lock-in did get the same amount of rounds against fnatic as nrg both times it was in the 1st round as well of playoffs if you can call lock-in playoffs
So what does this all mean

Honestly if fnatic switches their bind comp I want chronicle to stay on viper as a semi-sentinel, derke on jett, alfajer in raze, boaster stays on brimstone and Leo stays on Skye I feel like with how good each fnatic player is on each agent it would be broken

Liquid did care though that’s the difference they were trying their hardest bringing out new strats and despite everyone but alfajer playing much worse than normal on fnatic and everyone on liquid performing at their peak level while hard anti strating fnatic they still lost a map got took to overtime on another and only won 13-11 on another chronicle dropped 40 kills all series and it was still close that’s the difference between fnatic and liquid fnatic at their worst can challenge liquid at their best

Yeah mini, Emil and doombros as well clearly all Russian

I don’t understand why some people have such short memory or ut might just be they can’t accept that fnatic’s coaching staff are best in the world with mini being 1 of the most underrated coaches ever people always go on about chet or mce but no one has influenced the meta as much as mini has he has been influencing it since 2020 if I am correct also with a team which compared to the other top teams didn’t have the talent apart from derke and boaster to compete with the best teams he was able to take them to every international event except 1 and other than Reykjavik 2 he got at least top 8 in the other 4 tournaments mini is the goat of valorant coaches
I mean emea is the best at lotus and the only time an emea team lost lotus was fut when boostio had a god performance but they are also the only emea team of the 4 I think at least that don’t use a fade many people try to use fnatics lotus comp as an example of them being all aim and not having a good read on the meta when before team liquid was using fnatics comp they lost 13-6 to vitality on lotus
and by changing comp they were able to have close games with fnatic and even beat fut on lotus and it’s a similar story for navi as well it’s not fnatic who have a bad read on the lotus meta but I feel it’s more like everyone else had a bad read on lotus instead

That’s the problem though everybody is underrating his aim demon1 can’t outaim him alfajer has the best aim in a region that is literally described as all the players having aimbot in terms of pure aim even Brazil and Russia isn’t as good turkey they are close but not quite as good
Fnatic literally have the best Russian and best Turkish aimer in the world in chronicle and alfajer people just underrate them because all the players on their team has a ridiculous level of aim the reason players like less, demon1 and something appear to have better than alfajer or chronicle is because they literally have 4 of the best aimers in the world and even boaster has great aim the fact he had a 100% 1vs1 clutch win rate shows that it’s just he’s focused on igling most of the time so his aim gets effected because he has to focus on multiple things at once

Yeah I feel like this game was fnatic getting used to the stage a warming up game to be exact which terrifying to think about you could see that just by looking at fracture and bind

To long I know people on vlr won’t read a comment that long so editing/deleting it

Well your wrong team liquid lost a map and could of easily lost the series 3-1 while 4 out of the 5 players on fnatic were having off days and were saving strats while all of team liquid were in peak form if you really think the fnatic you played in the grand finals is the actual fnatic you are delusional liquid is not better than fnatic the only reason nrg looked os weak is because fnatic are simply that good taht they made nrg seem like the worst team in the playoffs edg are worse than nrg and fantuc are better than liquid just look at the upper bracket finals of emea to see that and the rest of the season as well the reason liquid won was because chronicle was sick and he only dropped 40 kills the entire series this liquid team has never been better than this fnatic team and if you think that you are seriously overhyping liquid too much

Derke is either the same level or better than aspas, chronicle is the best flex by far, and Leo proves it here that he is the best initiator, nats is not better than alfajer the grand final proved that the only sentinel that is maybe better is less but that’s debatable and boaster other than that grand final has never lost to redgar even when redgar was igl of gambit your just in denial literally in the grand finals of lock-in only on icebox by 3 kills did less get more kills than derke on any of the maps the same on split and every other map derke had more and he played 3 maps on raze

Yay without chamber is not the same level as derke only his chamber is better marved is the same level as the fnatic players and better than all your current players except maybe crashies

But he’s a bleed fan what was your goal here

I think the games today are gonna be interesting as from what I know probably the 2 most liked teams outside the Japanese franchise teams are playing because I’ve heard that Japan loves boaster and although something isn’t there the fact he plays for prx and according to what I heard Japan also loves something.
we could be hearing and seeing an even louder and more I guess the word would be excited than yesterday despite the crowd being very loud.
it will be quite funny if fnatic are cheered a lot though they would go from Istanbul where the crowd is supporting them to São Paulo where they played the 2 Brazilian teams so the crowd was against them.
back to a crowd that is supporting them and I assume los angles will once again be against them they are going on a roller coaster ride of people loving them and wanting them to win to people wanting them to lose.

So the old optic core has never taken a map off of any fnatic player both times getting destroyed chronicle single handedly destroyed them in Berlin 3-0 and in coppenhagen Leo destroyed them 2-0 meanwhile fnatic has a positive record against ardiis in pretty sure and derke even if fnatic wins almost all the time outperforms ardiis also if you want to go with them stats this fnatic roster has only lost 1 map in playoffs outside of grand finals and every lan he’s went to chronicle has made it to the final every time if you want to play stats I can play stats

Yeah but they didn’t see getting 1st seed as a good enough reason to show their strats and take the game fully serious they genuinely I don’t think minded if they won or lost plus derke, Leo and boaster were having off days basically a bad game and chronicle said he was sick and I mean just look at his stats and you could clearly tell something was wrong if they were playing to their normal level even without showing new strats they would of won I mean alfajer the only player playing to his normal level or single-handedly won them taht game and was the main reason it was close none of the maps should’ve been that close but alfajer made them that close and that’s only 1 fnatic player playing normal imagine if they were all playing at their normal level

They could’ve lost that group was very close the games were all close on another day t1 could of beat nrg

Nrg not gonna get more than 9 rounds on either map and if they lose all 4 pistols they won’t get more than 13 rounds combined

Your starting to get awfully arrogant now just wait until tomorrow or today or whatever time the fnatic vs nrg game is on for you people who are saying this will be close will be in for a surprise. last time chronicle played nrg which was envy at the time it was 3-0 with chronicle having 1 of the best individual performances of all time and when Leo played nrg which was optic at the time he also destroyed them 2-0 and in head to head battles derke almost always beats ardiis whenever they play and alfajer is just better than som. while boaster and fns are at a equal level and also don’t be too cocky because if fnatic and liquid make it to upper finals loud gets knocked out by edg, fnatic beat nrg and liquid beat eg then what will you say

Tell that to fnatic who were winning almost every pistol since the strat of the season until now using practically the same pistol strats since lock-in for very map the only match they didn’t win at least half of the pistols was furia where they lost every pistol even against loud they went 7-3 in pistols that’s why they are so good 1 of the reasons at least they are best team in the world at pistols so it will give them a big momentum boost as they are winning most pistols once eg face fnatic I would be interested to see how they do against fnatic in pistol rounds that’s if eg can beat loud and either liquid or edg

So 1st match nobody expected eg to challenge loud they took a map off them and made a close 2nd map but lose the 3rd 13-0 eg are expected to not qualified to playoffs they play each other once again after eg pull off 2 massive upsets in nrg and c9 they face loud again taking a map and playing a close map as well but this time although they g eg destroyed map 3 again it was not 13-0 now eg will take loud to map 3 again winning map 1 and losing a close ot to loud and on map 3 they will lose by less than 4 rounds so 13-9 13-10 13-11 or ot and then at champions they will face each other again and eg will win knocking loud out in the lower bracket finals there might be another game that happens at masters which is closer than the game they are to play next but this is what will happen eg even started off weak in lock-in and the americas league their grand rival is loud until next season chapter 2 2024 fnatic where they lose to fnatic at champions and then they start their journey over again until they 1 day beat fnatic and lift that trophy eg are winning a trophy in 2024 either the 2nd masters or champs you heard it here 1st

Tbf we have never seen a team use this strategy so who knows and tbh the only team I could see actually pull that off is fnatic as they have 2 world class opers derke and alfajer boaster and chronicle also sometimes op for soem reason and are actually accurate and I would assume Leo could op quite well if he wanted to in before fnatic show their pearl and it’s 5 duelists all with ops

They also caught fnatic at the worst possible day the most consistent team in the world with the most consistent players 1 of them became sick while Leo and derke who are usually outrageously consistent we’re having off days at the same time boaster was having an off day making weird calls only alfajer was playing to his normal level and he was smurfing in that grand final he almost single handedly won them a map and was the reason it was such a close series if it only takes 1 out of 5 fnatic players to make a close game with a liquid where every player is playing at their best level and 3 players were playing bad for their standards and 1 was playing the worst in his career because he was sick then either liquid aren’t that great or fnatic are far more terrifying than anybody thinks especially as the press conference before masters tokyo started based on how boaster was talking and his body language when asked about the final and their strats and the emea league in general it’s clear that to fnatic at the time they were saving strats and as long as they make it into top 2 so playoffs directly they weren’t too bothered if they won or lost we will see soon though are liquid bad or good and if they are good how ridiculous is fnatic for keeping up with liquid while practically playing with a broken arm and foot and handicapping themselves further

Sorry for long comment

Saying crashies is better than Leo and victor better than alfajer shows you know nothing about valorant victor is the most overrated player in history he’s good but that’s it he’s too inconsistent and even at his best he’s at most on the same level as fnatics 4 star players playing at their normal level and crashies has gone from an underrated player to a overrated player he’s not on the same level as leo those insane clutches taht crashies does every few games fnatics players do higher level clutches than that every game at least 1 a map too no nrg player is top 10 in there world with only maybe crashies barely sneaking into 10th while all of fnatics 4 star players are top 7 in the world alongside aspas, less and mako

It’s because nrg have been looking really shaky dropping a map to a very shaky navi side that have decided that shao is no longer a top 3 initiator but a controller instead now and zyppan is a initiator and angel himself has decided he is now a initiator not a controller and also they played a close series with t1 and they are the 3rd seed of pacific while back are the 4th seed of emea and both fut the 3rd seed of emea and drx the 2nd seed of pacific got destroyed by eg that’s why plus they are playing a fnatic team that out of all the teams have managed to hide their strats the deepest 1 of the best teams in terms of strats taht has never been known to brute force with pure firepower as they have never had the ability to do that just pretty much purely with their firepower qualified for playoffs and only lost a series after their was no pressure on them as it was quite literally the least important series this season and fnatic have many shown the thing that most of the world knows them for their cool and unique strategies nrg are pretty much going into that match blind as no one knows what he’ll fnatic is and what they will come out with boaster also during the interview kept almost accidentally calling the vct leagues as not important as kept trying to cover it up to ame it sound like he was joking which to me shows what the mindset of fnatic was and is they are only focused on the international tournaments and the league doesn’t mean anything more to them than a way to qualify for the international tournaments

Sorry for making it so long I can never seem to make these short

I’m just annoyed by the arrogance of americas supporters as you would be surprised that their are some people who are seriously saying eg are a top 3 team and that nrg look great and can beat fnatic while they barely managed to beat t1 who got destroyed by edg they even dropped a map to the biggest trolls on earth navi so I’m just making sure as americas fans you might be surprised to hear this genuinely are the most delusional fan bases in the world right after ge fans

Just because you beat fut and drx with foxy9 doesn’t mean anything prx absolutely bullied drx when they were playing with foxy9 as well and after only a few days of practice with zest they played a full 5 map bo5 with prx despite prx having 2 map bans and banning their 2 best maps eg will once again be exposed by loud

The guy knows nothing mini is potentially the coach who has ha more impact on the valorant scene then any other coach ever since even 2020 before the 1st valorant international tournament fnatic have been setting metas and countless strats they have created have been used by many teams on multiple different maps plus he talks about Shazam but envy couldn’t even qualify for the 1st masters so they automatically makes envy worse than fnatic anyways and chet is not better mini as mini is probably the most underrated coach of all time just because he hadn’t won a trophy which is understandable considering only his igl and duelist were at the same level as the top teams players and he was still able to make them be able to compete with them also like I said ever since valorant has started he has been creating metas taht people use and some of those tactics and metas are still used to this day such as the viper walls on bind no single coach has had really anywhere close to the influence that mini has had on valorant he is the goat of coaches in valorant and he even changed the economy forever with the half shield buy and you can see the results fnatic had less than half I think the amount of ecos navi had and navi only played 6 maps in playoffs while fantuc played 9 maps so if you add the regular season they played about the same number of maps and fnatic still had a much smaller amount of ecos

He had eg beating both fnatic and loud what do you expect fnatic won’t lose to eg even if eg had 2 map bans as fantuc can play anything as sliggy has leaked information that fnatic have even been practicing pearl for a long tie they just didn’t want to reveal it in the emea league or playoffs

He destroyed them he had also it 20 kills more than every player not just nrg both teams he had kills in the 70’s in just 3 maps he genuinely might of got more kills than something did when he was smudging in the Japanese league if nrg were actually able to put up a fight and win 2 maps to at least make it close so chronicle could easily hit 100+ he was averaging almost 25 kills or maybe he was I can’t remember exactly in a grand final he was smurfing against nrg in a grand final and Leo also owned nrg when he played against them in coppenhagen nrg have a 0-2 loss against fnatic players and they haven’t even been able to get a map

Prx without something does not beat loud even if they played for 5 years straight

But you gotta remember pacific in general I should say or rather the whole of Asia tbh as edg respect fnatic a lot and derke is even kangkangs idol I guess would be the correct word and the rest of edg respect fnatic as well from what I heard they are good friends with both drx and prx and Japan specifically from what i know at least loves boaster and fnatic so it would take a truly god awful walkout to swing the game in nrg’s favour

Out of all the things wrong with this pickem that’s the part that caught your attention not edg beating liquid, loud, fnatic and drx without losing a game

Yeah because his coach and igl have enough of a brain to figure out that your duelist is you know a duelist so he should be playing duelist but once again american stupidity at its finest they keep putting their duelists on agents that aren’t duelists why is tenz, ardiis and cryo playing sage look at fnatic and team liquid and even your own regions loud they play their duelist on surprise surprise on the duelist role because they are duelists bit weird flex duelists that get played sage, killjoy or omen the only ones who should be doing something crazy like that is navi as they are lunatics and prx because they’ve got like 3 or 4 duelists so someone has to play a different role

I mean the 2nd best sentinel in the world and the only sentinel who can challenge less at the moment is also 1 of the best raze players in the world people seem to have such short memories he is putting up the same ridiculous numbers on killjoy and cypher as he was on raze also chronicle can play pretty much any agent even pretty much every duelist to a very high level just fnatic has 3 world class players who can play duelist with a top 3 jett and probably top 3 raze tbh as well as derke at the moment is probably a top 3 raze and alfajer is better than him on raze

Wait until the game just like in Berlin chronicle will destroy nrg and just like in coppenhagen Leo will also destroy nrg the other 3 can just sit back with their feet up preparing for the next round

You are underrating derke’s op way to much he’s at least better than ardiis and buzz only reason he doesn’t get as many op kills as them is because ignoring pearl with icebox taken out derke plays raze on 4 of the 6 maps and fnatic don’t really play ascent that much 1 of the 2 maps he plays jett and also fnatic is stacked with players who can use an op alfajer is also a world class oper and even boaster uses the op sometimes along with chronicle and boaster surprisingly gets a jill with the op almost every time he uses which is not a lot mostly just on haven but still and chronicle is great with the op as well but he is 1 of the best with an op in the world it’s just due to how stacked fnatic is and how good derke is with a rifle there is almost no need for him to use an op in a lot of situations

Chronicle clears victor as victor is the most overrated player on nrg he’s the most inconsistent player and I would say the 1 most holding nrg back when he’s playing good he is really good but when he is not playing good he is potentially worse than fns

His rifle is not the best on flex as chronicle is at masters tokyo and he potentially might have the best rifle out of all of fnatic despite having 4 absolutely ridiculously cracked fraggers

Boaster has already cursed nrg so it evens out we can now have a fair matchup no curses involved

Yeah but I feel like people underrate him just because he’s not the best in his role he’s close but less is a literal monster at the moment and because all the others either are the best or a the joint best with another player I’m talking about derke and aspas people see that and say oh he isn’t as good when he’s actually on the same level I also think it’s because he’s so young he either only recently turned 18 or is soon turning 18 so people aren’t giving him the praise he deserves and underrating him because of that

I mean I’m not from the cis region but I do agree to a certain extent nats is definitely getting overhyped when he was the 2nd best sentinel in the grand final despite his team winning 3-1 it’s the same with chronicle both chronicle and alfajer are monsters on par with derke and Leo but for some reason people keep rating sayf and even nats higher I mean sayf is great and potentially a top 10 player but not a high top 1 8th at most as the top 7 for me is obvious chronicle, Leo, derke, alfajer, aspas, less and mako in any order tbh and anybody who doesn’t say this is either duelist biased, region biased or a hater if a certain region, team or player

Nah alfajer clears everyone 1v2’s he wins them 1v3’s easy he wins them and even 1v 4’s if fnatic ever let him have a 1v4 he will win those 2 i mean he’s the turkish player with the best aim out of all of turkey and he has discipline most of the time but seriously though I’m joking about him being the best and clearing everyone but genuinely because he’s on fnatic a lot of people underrate him he is on the same level as the other 3 monsters on fnatic and a top 10 player in the world and in my opinion he is the only sentinel at the moment in the world who is able to challenge less

If fnatic just decide to go god mode to prove that they are indeed by far 1 of the 2 best teams along with loud to shut up all of na you might be able to watch the whole game

The question is why is loud a 2nd seed and not prx in terms of where each region ranked last year where they ranked at lock-in pacific is lower than both emea and americas loud should play drx and prx should play eg I feel like these would be more interesting matchups as well

Alfajer or chronicle they take multiple 1vs 1 fights in a row and just win at least 2 consistently in a 1 v1 clutch boaster but in a 1 vs 1 that is not a clutch alfajer or chronicle

Your a faze supporter and talking about winning? The only time your org won something was in cs and they created an eu team as they know na is bad and that is their only current successful team the 1 not based in na coincidence I think not