unironically true and real, both matches today were very low level

downplaying the event because your fav team lost or couldn’t qualify is stupid, downplaying this event after watching it is the logical thing to do

my point isn’t that they’d win madrid, it’s that nrg are already almost at the level of sen despite only having a fraction of the time together because of eg’s fuckery while sen had the whole offseason, thinking they can’t overtake them later in the year is retarded. No clue wtf is wrong with fnc though

edit: also kc did have the majority of the offseason, this roster was together since at least october

I agree, they couldn’t win madrid with a month of prac, they’d look like how prx does. By shanghai they’ll be better than sen though unless they refuse to practice

garbage igl and coach almost 2-0d the current tournament favourites with 1/5th of the time together lmao

yes i’m watching, it’s low level valorant decided at the map veto because these teams (except maybe geng) have a 4 map pool at best

rito wants you to forget what high level valorant looks like so people actually take the ‘kickoff’ events seriously

you can tell loud and prx especially had to change up their comps last minute after they got exposed and have very spotty map pools as a result, this is why I feel like this is overall the lowest level event maybe ever. Most of these teams don’t even have a 5 map pool yet for fuck’s sake. Rito needs to put a full round robin split before masters 1 imo

fnc beat vit with a sub and got 2-0d by a team that got grouped at masters, this isn't a goat debate it's about right now this year

geng is fun to watch, they got some aimers

who else is he gonna replace? Jawg and derrek are the best players on the team, apoth is playing better than supa and n4rrate on full time sentinel seems wrong, nature is igl. You could even have him take the demon1 role and flex jawg to smokes on jett maps like 2023

if you think kick off was eg at their best idk what to tell you, they only had 3 maps ready otherwise they'd have picked bind into loud over the 2 maps they already played

c9 and eg are budget and had no money for him over kc, sen have zekken and nrg got demon1. Only team that fumbled was 100t keeping assuna

they literally had the least time together of any team in the world and already look mid-table americas, with a firepower upgrade like that and more time to cook it's def possible

-supamen +n4rrate and eg would win champs again

"bit of glazing but hes the goat with the op" was not about zekken surely, idgaf about the acs of chinese mwzera lol he can have fun checking his stats page from home. My point is edg will never get better unless they realise this playstyle isn't good and I don't think they ever will at this point

he was only 'goat' with the op in 1 international event, he was ass at champs once good teams figured out how he plays and started actually punishing him. The issue with edg's coaching staff is they don't even understand why they aren't good, they're not learning from their mistakes

boaster literally said their goal was to win all 3 internationals this year lol

eg were known for being controlled and fnc smoked them at tokyo

no I just think his analysis (especially live) is garbage compared to people like sliggy or fns and he’s just a bitter eu frog in general. He hyperfocuses on what he thinks teams do wrong to do his angry streamer reaction schtick when half the time it’s just him not understanding the strat

life tip: always do the opposite of what tmv says, he’s the biggest fraud ‘pundit’ I’ve seen in ages which is wild because he actually watches all the games

2 tournaments in a row no podium finish kkkkkkkkkkkkk

prx fans are like the worst parts of sen and loud fans mixed together

2021 last 2 events, that’s it

only sen look drilled at all, even geng are just running it down killing people half the time. I understand some teams had big roster changes and some of those late in the offseason so I’ll give them a pass but It’s really an indictment on teams like fnc who made barely any changes that they couldn’t qualify, even in champs form they at least make grand finals here

he was glazed super hard last year but then he got exposed as a regional merchant who never did shit internationally. Basically the leaf of emea

idc how garbage you are you should not be losing to a team with 6 weeks of practice time together when you’ve got a core that’s been together for years and had a 6 month offseason

if potter had the whole offseason to cook I could see it but with less than 2 months of general prep? There’s just no way. Honestly it’s a miracle they even beat g2 with the way this roster came together so last minute

fnc 3 places higher than the team they just lost to 2-0 lol

think about it, ever since he said he'd tbag semen1 at champs they haven't looked the same

fnatic’s “era”
-win a single elim tournament by beating a bunch of mid americas teams (none of them were even close to qualifying to internationals after), a trolling navi and loud only because they choked their dicks off
-farm an emea field which looked the worst it ever had
-win masters tokyo (3rd place was a team with a sub and 2nd place was a cinderella story team that had 2 days of practice with their star duelist)
-get 4th at champs only beating zeta, bilibili, fut and drx while losing to the 3rd place team twice

ethan beat prime astralis on lan dude he's the last person who's gonna crumble

bro if potter manages to beat loud in a bo3 with a 2 month old roster full of t2 players aside from jawgemo she's actually the undisputed goat

jawg drops 70 but eg lose 2-1

don’t underestimate the fact that potter will have been able to see sen play so many matches and maps through groups and play ins, we can already see their map pool is uneven so she can play into that as well

yeah I can see that, I did notice there were some moments where cauanzin and less in particular were weirdly out of sync with each other as well. I think potter’s coaching style (at least nowadays) is to immediately drill the kind of quick protocol-based decision making and synchronised util stuff 2023 eg was known for into the players

what about loud?

c0m literally topfragged as skye on bind and you’re blaming him

bro deadlock came out before champs

well they beat loud and 100t on it and 100t beat sen on it so yeah

loud looked better and eg showed less, both points are wrong

oh sorry mibr above kru, I'll edit

Loud
Lev
NRG
Sen
EG
100T
G2
MIBR
Kru
C9
Furia

I’ve seen it before tbh, especially since champs I’ve realised prx fans in particular basically have the regional top team toxicity of loud fans combined with the childishness of sen fans

how many times does it have to be said that they can’t because they already have an import with something and jawg is registered as an americas player (the cambodian flag is just for representing his heritage like how tex has a german flag)

tmv is the worst, he's like steel on commentary if he wasn't funny

what else am I supposed to call him when he's played jett on every map?

you mean the no brain duelist who farmed mickey mouse offseason events and mibr can't peform against good teams? Who could've guessed

at champs it was mostly prx fanboys and europeans saying that

better than last year at least