20 is more ps5s than there are ps5 games bro

demon1 is so cringe when he tries to play the heel you can tell he’s not actually a bad person

overall level of play this year is fucking abysmal tbh, I blame the late skye nerfs and the dogshit map pool

I love how even the most deluded emea frogs don’t rate navi anymore

KRU>SEN, they look way more consistent

fnc still could miss playoffs even if kc go 2-4 if they lose 2-0 to navi and liquid beat m8 2-0 but I understand not wanting to leave things up to liquid

kc’s mid/late round decisions baffle me sometimes, maybe it’s because magnum isn’t an experienced igl

boostio arguably has too much aura

enggh literally got some of the most cracked rookies from emea and na tier 2 just like heretics did wtf do you mean mid players

isn’t mw in charge of building the roster? He’s in a prison of his own design

jawgemo is cambodian so we already had a trophy, 2 in a row from different teams is crazy though

they're not gonna scrim with a team that hasn't signed them ffs, I know the average age on this website is like 14 but come the fuck on

dude this is massive cope, how tf would a team have a player who isn't even sure he can join the team scrim with them? They're not signed and they're not gonna do it for free. Idk why you're so committed to denying basic facts, sen won fair and square, all I'm saying is the idea that all the other teams were simply too lazy to work in the offseason is wrong

the teams weren't even sure they could get them until late december how tf could they scrim with them?

for fnc sure but the americas teams who got eg players literally couldn't because of the contract jail

you'll never be goatz

we're literally talking about the frag record dumbass

flag

harder to get frags on? Mindfreak no question

difference is those guys play duelist, at least on some maps

what was your thought last year after eg beat prx 3-1?

I mean you deserve a huge advantage for winning through uppers, usually in games that don't take 4 hours for a bo5 the team from lowers straight up has to win twice. My issue with double map ban is that how good it is really depends on how much the top 2 teams' map pools overlap, look at how effective it was in tokyo vs champs for example

this is the list

this is just an attempt to bait eu surely

I'm convinced sen fans live in a different world than normal people do

unironically geng players choking because of the pressure

the korean hating community isn't relevant to this conversation

do val fans know what choking means?

davai most underrated for me, him and f0rsaken are the lifeblood of prx imo

sen, geng isn't even a team with a lot of fans or anything so the haters can still shit on prx and drx fans

because they lose some blowout maps and win some really close ones. Look at their loud game at champs for example, win a 13-10 and an ot map and lose a 13-2 on split. Same with grand finals losing 13-5 on bind, shit like that tends to lower ratings a lot

map pool diff alone should mean geng have it in the bag but the players can always choke, it's a lot of pressure for them since they have a lot to prove for their region as well

just have f0rsaken raze and have something play gekko op on every map like boostio

nah boostio just had a stinker in upper finals, also mindfreak life game on pearl

funny you mention lev because they, along with every team which picked up eg players, got way less time in the offseason because of the contract jail situation

not a rookie

none of those are objective facts but I agree that this tournament is very low level

op is literally saying this geng beats champs prx dude, you’re agreeing with me

what? Their pearl and bind were goated (trolled bind in grand finals though), ascent, fracture and lotus were world class too and split was ok with haven as permaban. Compare that to a team like sen in madrid who have a really solid split and lotus, ok sunset and icebox and dogshit everything else

yes they pick first too. In my opinion this gf is a 3-0 or 3-1 for geng regardless of who makes it up there, sen and prx’s map pools are too inconsistent. Teams that win from lower bracket historically had really solid map pools so the double ban didn’t matter that much but in this event geng is the only team with more than 3 or 4 good maps

no it’s always been double map ban for the team in uppers

sen can’t ban anything if they beat prx, geng get both bans

not hard to pick apart a 4 map pool after having weeks worth of vods, none of these teams sniff top 3 at champs last year

your eyes don’t work

SEN 3-2 PRX
GENG 3-1 SEN

I mean those teams also have their own issues so no, by shanghai the story might be different though. I just think doing a masters right at the start of the season with no round robin for teams to fix their problems is stupid, the level of play is so much lower like this

internationally I don’t think so but they won pacific grand finals last year

eg upper finals vs prx was actually close though

fully deserved, only team at this event with more than 4 good maps

it’s kinda crazy how a team so allergic to any map where they can’t play raze is top 3 at an international lan, says a lot about this tournament