who would you say is the best duelist then

i mean we've all seen him play when he dominates, that guy is Thano's thanos

hot take, maybe besides meteor or munchkin, nobody on GenG is the best player of each role. They're just really good as a team and have great coaching, plays, and everything else.

Do you guys still consider him the best duelist? I feel like players like Wo0t have caught up to him mechanically, jawgemo with movement, and etc. We obviously know Aspas is insane and is the best, but its been so long since we've seen an aspas domination because of how shitty lev is.

depends on if you have aimers on your team already or not. aspas is the better player overall prob, but jawgemo easily is the better duelist.

i agree w geng, but sacy and zellsis dont have top tier aim

n4rrate marteen shin tomaszy alone are some of EU's top aimers?

Is TH the team with the most firepower throughout the entire roster currently? If not, which team do you think is better. The next best team I can think of is KC

i truly love NRG i really do, but you can’t lie EG has a chance of beating current NRG

Jawg > Victor
Nature < Fns but nature is a better well rounded player
Derrek = crashies both kinda trash recently but derrek has more potential bc of his mechanics
Apoth > FNS sentinel
Supamen < s0m but we know supamen can beat up and become thanos
potter > chet
and you really can’t deny these statistics, but we will see

its on PC now and its better than ever if you want to actually play to get good.

does anyone else use PixelGun 3d on pc to warm up for val. That game is so heavily underrated aiming wise, ppl flying in the air with rockets 3 cat spamming, and you have to track ALL of that in a split second.

i think a plat player couldve gotten more kills just by purely using their mechanics

EG wins champs trust. You put little faith into Potter Jawg and Apoth. these three alone could take over the world.

they wouldve still done good towards the end of the season. no doubt demon1 was the sole reason, but you cant forget how good the other players were by the end of champs. jawgemo was best raze player, and flex player, c0m was the best scan inititiaor with his godsent lurks and timings, ethan was just the goat, and boosty was a solid igl who did his role properly.

ascendant? might as well play premier

jokes aside discord and battlefy are prob your best options

With Redgar going 8/37 surely my VLR thread has some value to it.
In no situation should an IGL go 8/37 in TWO maps even if they are "master classing". You could use a classic only for two maps and get more kills than that.

https://www.vlr.gg/365146/aiming

EG would stomp current Fnatic. apoth is thanos, supamen can be really good when he plays well like rly rly good, and nature is a solid individual.

i did not know that sliggy said this, thank you it was very helpful

thanks sm for your input and yes i agree. boostio :( im still stuck on his tokyo performance when his aim was rly good.

thank you

thank you for your input have a great day

in 2024 igls need to be able to have top tier aim or the team won’t perform based off of observations in 2024.

Hi guys, this is a complete re write and posting this during a non America’s time because Americas VLR users are a little challenged. But recently I watched this video about Curry talking about how pro players should not have low K / D’s (essentially aim). And he went on to talk about IGL’s specifically.

The Video: Video

Here is my take. I understand aiming isn’t everything in a game like Valorant and Brain > Aim almost always. But recently, more specifically in 2024 I’ve been noticing pattern that may or may not have a correlation with aim.

Think about which teams are doing good in 2024. Ex:GENG, SEN, TH, 100T, G2, (prx if u want to count forsaken as igl). Do you guys notice something with these teams? They have all been in a grand final this year either regionally or internationally. But this isn’t my main point, my main point is centered around the IGL’s. Munchkin, JohnQT, Boo, Boostio, Valyn, and f0rsakeN. Do you notice a pattern amongst these IGLs? They all have insane aim and are doing great compared to the rest of the franchising teams and it’s by a mile.

Now think about some teams/igls that aren’t doing so good that were once considered good. Ex: Boaster, Redgar, Vanity, FNS (too early to call NRG bad, but he does have bad aim). These are all IGL’s who have (“bad aim”) and have either won an international event or have high prestige, but are all doing exceptionally bad in 2024 compared to old iterations of them. I understand that one player having bad aim won’t decide if the team wins or loses, but this is just a pattern that I realized in 2024. Whether this is true to a truly micro level, we don’t know, but it is true that teams that are doing good, have IGL’s who can aim.

I think Valorant is at a state where mechanics aim wise can’t get significantly better than it is right now with players like Demon1, Aspas, Wo0t, etc you get my point. And yes strategies, calling, and stuff like that is so much more valuable, but in moments where it is a 2v3, 2v4, 1v2, etc which happens more than you think, aim is crucial. I keep seeing moments where a team has actually a fair chance to win clutch scenarios, but absolutely bomb it because of their below average aim in T1. I think Valorant is in a state where everyone has to be shooting back, all 5 players not just your duelist and sentinel. The game has evolved, and a simple FNS masterclass or DRX textbook style gameplay won’t slide.

This is just my take on the video and pattern I observed. Feel free to discuss or counter argue with my opinion. Thank you guys for reading.

PRX > CN > NA > APAC > EMEA

i been saying this

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roster is good it’s just coaching and roles

Yeah… They need to get an ACTUAL igl and have MaKo on smokes, flashback on flex/secondary smokes, wnd BeYN on initiator / flex

If they don’t make it to champs or perform there, surely they rebuild around MaKo BeYN and Flashback.

Buzz is just bad now and foxy9 has been the “next. prodigy” for too long. Neither one of them can perform consistently or well when they need to. Too many chances for the both of them.

always been a. fan of this years geng from the start, but i keep having hope for drx

do i retire the drx flair? i’ve been a drx fan since DRX picked up the VS players and keep getting edged. i thought this roster was supposed to be full of aimers and talent.

they do differ a lot. if you have above average aim and play smart you can be a plat player and be mid to top frag in a immo1 match. but after immo1 you'll just get mind diffed. the main difference between immo2-rad is just game sense for the most part unless you're the next aspas demon1 tenz typa aimer.

the only players that could be added to this roster to win a championship is
Duelist: Demon1 or Oxy
Initiator/Flex: N4RRATE or Verno

coach: potter

could also be oxy and verno since verno is more of an actual initiator player and oxy can play any duelist at the highest level

let go of optic, yes i understand they’ve improved and it’s only been one game but it’s the truth. victor and crashies simply aren’t world class level players anymore.

if it were 2022.

Get rid of vic crashies. They’re not a “great duo”. Yes they’re good players, but they’re so inconsistent and don’t provide or show up enough as players to win them matches since 2022. Id say pick up Verno or N4RRATE to replace crashies by the end of 2024, and unbench Demon1 or pick up Oxy in 2024.

So ideally the roster would be

FNS
s0m
Ethan
Verno/N4RRATE
Oxy/Demon1

this roster actually has firepower and has players who could carry a win

also ethan is looking good again on support. i missed prime ethan

yeah :/ but it’s his first game back so just give him time.

But as a DREAM roster yes zaddy has the best vibes no doubt, but player wise there are at least 5 "flex" / support players I can think of that clear Zaddsis

I miss those two teams so much

If we are talking about form I agree, but I think another good team would be Champs EG and 2024 GenG.

bro said marved dapr and zellsis

If valorant could combine two teams to make it a 10v10 hypothetically, what two teams would you like to see combine?

For me personally I would love to see PRX and DRX team up

if buzz doesnt step up, he should get replaced by Rb for the duelist role

sorry but flashback clears

because i think marved misread his name as David back in the day and fns started doing the same

No matter what though s0m will be dropping match mvp

zellsis

simply termi was only good until 2022 ended. in 2023 the DRX roster was only "good" because all other rosters were new and getting used to franchising. Also they had MaKo who would carry them. Now in 2024 (yes DRX played bad today individually), but termi still isn't really doing anything outstanding for the team.

DRX needs an aspas wo0t t3xture keznits oxy level duelist.