yeah ik :(, but still there HAS to be someone better than termi. enough chances have been given.

These frauds should just leave esports in general. Both have insane talent on roster but can't do anything to win.

I do agree, I dont want to lose hope in BuZz because we have seen moments where he is looking like t3xture, but he truly is inconsistent. The team just needs to get over the consistency issue.

i hope so, i really see potential with this roster. beyn and foxy need to return to form.

LOL, im just going through it right now. As a DRX fan its so hard when your team looks so good one split/game, and then look like a silver lobby team the next especially when you have amazing players. One day :(

I always have so much hope for DRX, but they are just so bad. Like what did I just witness?? Any 2021 team would've gotten more rounds in general and on eco than DRX. Not to mention Buzz missing every awp shot? MaKo Foxy and BeYN were looking INCREDIBLE split 1, and now they are just choking. Their firepower right now quite literally matches PRX for the most part so I don't get how they're getting outaimed MOST of the time as well.

defense is so hard on icebox if bomb is down. so many angles to hold and too many corners. #DRXWIN

Flashback is the greatest player to ever exist

idk abt marved. not saying he's not good because he can be, but he's very inconsistent. also it seems like he drinks or smokes often which isnt really good for the team. also roles w s0m.

yes

nah bro vic has been aiming recently, and also fns has improved mechanically from what ive seen in his ranked games, but i guess only time will tell.

fair

NA from what we've seen does have the deepest talent pool from T2.

i love verno and would love to agree, but we truly dont know yet. they are so similar in skill its only until verno is franchised we'll 100% know. n4rrate has the bigger agent pool, but that doesnt mean much since most roles are set.

Are these guys brothers or something?? I swear they look so similar, they both play initiator, both hard carry their team, both insane aimers, both from NA T2, they are just way too similar in many ways.

is navi the only team where all the players are the same pre franchising

this guy just hates KC

i respect your opinion, and we will see. ethan really hasnt been given a chance to show anything since last year/to play on other roles so we wouldn't 100% know, but I do agree with everything you said except flexibility being a factor. flexibility is only "valuable" when no one else can flex on your team and a flex is needed. on NRG rn vic can play duelist senti and semi initiator, crashies can play initiator and hassss played viper (not saying itll be good), s0m can play smokes and raze if needed, ethan can play any inititator + omen, and FNS can play viper and any sentinel. if you ask me thats a ton or at least more than enough flexibility for one team for the "flexibility" position to not really matter in an argument like this.

id say if it were a team like

ethan (initiator)
aspas (duelist)
boaster (smokes)
nats (senti)
c0m (scan initiator + cypher)

or something, zellsis wouldddd be more valuable since the guys I listed above are known for playing only one role

agreed

I was discussing w another VLR user on who the better player is overall. No hate towards that person whatsoever because I enjoy discussions like this, but I would just like other peoples opinions. Who do you guys think is the better player overall? You can choose to consider ethan as igl or not, but it would be fair to not consider his igl stats/performances as anyones stats/personal performance would dip as an IGL.

I want you guys to consider impact for the team and how they actually contribute in matches not some mere number because of a pop off game, stomp game, or stat player game. truly as a player and their value to the team.

(no vibes merchant bs even though I do agree zellsis is THE guy for that).

edit: i was on Ethan's side and the other guy had a SEN flair

you can, but its not necessary? you could literally ask any pro or vlr user that isnt just SEN biased on who the better player is. everyone will say Ethan. the only reason ppl keep bringing down ethan is because of recency bias. dont forget how good he was last year, and how good he was in the start of this year individually before NRG became shit.

okay my bad, i didnt click on the matches in whcih you linked, but you also chose a grand final where zellsis poppped off literally last game of icebox vs a non grand final. back to statistics as well, zellsis during that grand finals besides icebox was quite litearlly useless. more than half the time he was a walking orb for GenG. ethan during the last bo3 he played, you could see his impact. you could see his util usage being good, you could see his game sense and aim. and everyone knows madrid was mickey mouse.

yes also Ethan this year was on a completely new position as IGL which he isnt the best at as we can see. all zellsis has to do is lock down site and shootLMFAO. you cant compare the "easiest" role (as in mainly plays sentinel type roles like kj viper) vs the hardest role while assisting your team. also the stats you're comparing is IGL vs regular player who secondary calls. and if you want to talk about stats itself, i can pull some crazy bs out and say its the truth. stats arent everything.

obv its not just a player game, but I was listing out the individuals. it was half troll, but when i actually compared the players i was being rational. me comparing players was half a joke in saying which team would win, but the other half was serious on who the better overall players are.

fns is debatable, but i do agree johnqt has better aim. but overall sacy is SO inconsistent and yes i give it to him that he has many clutches, but that likes one rly good cluthc for every 15 deaths he has. crashies is more consistent overall. and if you really think zellsis is better than ethan that isn't igling, you are new to valorant.

lets compare :)

FNS > JohnQT
s0m > TenZ
victor < zekken
crashies > sacy
ethan > zellsis
chet < kaplan
im sorry but k0plan and z0kken cant win a 2v10

EG would shit on T1 any day.

I disagree with EG, they have amazing players and just need time. But if you WERE to change EG, it should be Demon1, N4rrate, Verno, Jawg, and a smokes player maybe zander or skuba

EG vs TH Grand finals for champs watch. (EG wins too)

nah not oxy

don’t forget we bitched yiur entire org countlessly until last yr, drx has just been in a coaching and roster slump. they’re looking incredible rn so i’ll be back tmr when drx shit on prx

yup. shao hasn’t been good since 2022, zyppan is just bad, suygetsu has his moments and mechanics but it isn’t good enough, ardiis is inconsistent and ange1 is too old

it’s swvyboi don’t expect much, he’s ai created by SEN themselves

its clear his mechanics are better than leo's, but as a player he has a long way to go. leo is still infintely better in other aspects

you should be able to pull out a raze nade that has jett knife back features

please never rank again

idk i was just typing randomly LMAO

my first would prob be
aspas
beyn
flashback
mako
meteor

drx is shit

its gonna be a collab song between Newjeans x Kanye x Carti

to be fair, talon has played only prx so far so obv against a titan like PRX, any team that isnt Geng or drx will look extremely weak

oxy, jawgemo, ban, mwzera, and meiy

i like this as well, but meteor is like a top 5 player in the world right now so not including him would be criminal. but i dont disagree w this

yeah :( its hard to really choose since there is so much talent.

GenG and DRX combine orgs and rosters, the new name will be called GenRX
The roster will be:
IGL: Munchkin
Duelist: T3xture
Sentinel: Meteor
Controller: MaKo
Flex: Flashback
Coach: termi, glow, solo, and hsk.

(if no set igl wants to be placed munchkin can be rotated out for beyn. mako + beyn calls)

as much as I want to incorporate beyn, karon, and foxy9 into this roster, i think the listed above would be the best fit as they fit in roles, also I think that MaKo is still above Karon because even though karon is insane and is actually one of my favorite players, MaKo puts up better stats most of the time and has legacy.

this would be the greatest korean roster every created and would easily win every single apac league event and get top 3 in every international LAN

for real man. GenG and DRX my two favorites. GenRX

asuna is a raze one trick.

i respect your decision.

do you really think i’m just basing it off of the NRG clip?? have you seen him play outside of that, outside of this year? mechanically overall he has some of the best and if you say no you simply don’t watch his gameplay or have seen it. i think everyone is inconsistent besides like aspas so inconsistency doesn’t rly determine how impactful/valuable you are. texture can be really inconsistent, but is easily top 2 duelist rn w shanghai mvp. but i respect your opinion.

could be debatable. i think w a better performing team overall he could shine more and be in convo since there are teams way better than EG so obv other duelists will take the shine, and aspas is just aspas