how? FNC without a doubt are the best in EMEA as of this moment and look strong. LEV DRX PRX are all frauds. TH and G2 could beat FNC but that depends on their form especially TH.

i think TH can find form and maybe even sen. as for LEV and VIT, one or two players wont make that much of a difference in a whole tournament. maybe they could carry a match or two, but towards top 4 team games it wont work. i also agree CN is still a bit behind and statistically havent done really well in internatinoals. i could see a PRX revive.

i respect it. the only doubt i have is that NA even though everyone says its a strong region rn, top of NA seems really weak compared to the top of EMEA or APAC. (i dont watch CN so idk). if G2 can convert their dominance internationally i 100% agree.

GenG PRX DRX and FNC VIT TH as top 3's seems way stronger than KRU LEV G2 for me

yeah i completely get your point and do agree. i shouldve titled this thread a bit different or something. i think what i truly meant was like if GenG or FNC were to go against any of those strong teams listed above, they would lose in that grand final. but you never know.

this could be like a TH situation. For example obviously miniboo at an individual level is better than patitek (could argue, but for the most part), but shanghai TH was better than current TH. Leo is obviously a better player than Hiro even if its not by much, but current fnatic look better than before hiro fnatic.

i think they all have potential to get top 3 or 4 any one of those teams. but for winning i think if geng or fnc were in a grand finals with one of those teams listed above, those teams would lose.

personally i think those 6 teams are all incredibly strong, but not champs winning strong. GenG seem like the only truly strong team. TH kinda lost form.

i think they have a higher chance than TH G2 PRX DRX and LEV unless they somehow get destroyed in between a match

i shouldve worded the title a bit better, but for me i guess i meant like truly promising champs winning teams. i can def see a world where GenG or FNC win it, but not other teams. TH G2 PRX DRX LEV are all incredibly strong dont get me wrong, i just dont see a world where they could win it in a good fashion in their current forms. MAYBE g2

its bc hes just an overall solid player. no incredibly bad or good plays. he's just someone u can rely on like 2023 ethan

yup. leaf is on something rn

hmm. in the sense of overall strong teams maybe, but teams that could ACTUALLY win champs and seem promising are less. TH PRX DRX G2 LEV etc are all STRONG teams, but none of them besides MAYBE TH or G2 have champs winning potential

everyone expected EG to do well in champions not tokyo. EG was a top team going in champs. yes there are teams that could surprise, but just overall the skill level seems a bit worse

if im being honest DRX are strong rn, but not champs winning strong. they always sell and have two players who are either amazing or mid. G2 are good but DEF not FNC and GenG level good. i can see them getting top 4

The level of skill/teams in 2024 seem way less stronger than teams last year. Last year EG, PRX, LOUD, and FNATIC all had a good chance to win champs going in, but this year it only really seems like GenG and FNATIC.

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this makes sense but theres no reason to. 100T already have good chemistry w Asuna, and asuna has been playing good recently. adding victor wont determine if they win something or not. both mid NA players

if im being SUPER honest it all depends on how buzz and foxy9 play. we all know mako flashback are gonna play well, and beyn always does his role well though he could be better. buzz and foxy9 are what determines since they can either play amazing or super bad

if we're being super honest though "w gaming" isn't really something thats INCREDIBLY hard to learn. you just take fights more and play a bit faster. i think any pro who has played ranked in their life can adapt fast. its just how good are they mechanically and their decision making.

nah they just have to change play style a bit. their players are without a doubt world class players and no one lacks.

LETS FUCKING GO DRX THEY FINALLY SHOWED SOMETHING. i’m never taking off this flair

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yeah lets see. personally i thinkg Leaf is a better player overall, but tex when he's ACTUALLY shooting back and on fire is better.

n4rrate

i agree i didnt think of leaf at the moment

even if the first part is true, nobody on NA clears tex. the only competition is meteor and alfa in terms of senti players

beginning of the year KC, shanghai TH, GenG, and PRX

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If you've seen my posts in the past many of you guys would know I am a 100T hater. But I have to give props to them for last night. Obviously SEN aren't that strong as of this moment, but 100T were looking pretty good. Like damn even Asuna was playing good (i hate him the most). If they can keep this form and get better they actually have a good shot at doing well in champs.

karon and oxy def

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Surely they also get rid of Tragedies too? I mean the guy hasnt had a good moment since like last year.

FNC announced that he won't be playing in champs, but he is still gonna be on the roster next year. his contract is set until 2025

that may be the case, but he also needs to adapt more. there are many duelists on non-duelist roles doing good at the moment.

ahh thanks. but also with this much firewpower comms arent even needed. all they have to do is util, shoot, win

well he probably does to a degree since Talon rn is an english speaking roster.

tenz is without a doubt one of the best, but primmie has the best reaction time so its hard to compare unless theres a side by side

the fact that this could very much work is the funny part. all of them can speak english since they either speak it on the team they currently are, or is their first language.

i listed the most mechanically gifted players in franchising rn. primmie is without a doubt top 3

sadly n4rrate clears all of fnatic

IDC aspas, primmie, woot, demon1, and something. they win everything. they dont need a coach or comms.

verno himself could win the event

i can see a world, but also you NEED an extremely strong duelist. Icy is good dont get me wrong, but he is no texture aspas jinggg something

if LEV can somehow make it to like top 5, i think aspas can aspas his way through the rest of the event as long as they dont do some wack shit.

100T were never good. asuna will never play this good ever again, cryo is either thanos or asuna, bang is inconsistent and dies too much

its bc mfs want to be like swvyboi1 so badly.

yeah LMFAO. i forget which game it was, but KC had everyone on diff roles than they shouldve.

agreed. there are only a few handful of players who I really say are talented (n4rrate, primmie, karon, verno, aspas, flashback, t3xture, oxy). like they have skill that just cant really be taught. thats why im so excited for the future of valorant, so many new talents came in this year and just did well in terms of solo performances.

trexx has been MONSTROUS recently. sayf is just the goat. if VIT does somehow get n4rrate i can see a world where they could do well

may i ask why you want to remove marteen and not like tomaszy if we're comparing KC players to KC players