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This isn't an airport, no need to announce your departure
Well, Liquid has always consistently been EMEA's 2nd-4th best team. Somehow, they were just never the best even when the power rankings shifted a lot.
2021 Stage 2 and Reykjavik: Fnatic, Liquid, Gambit
2021 Stage 3 and Berlin: Gambit, Acend, G2, Liquid
2021 Champions: Acend, Gambit, Liquid, Fnatic
2022 Stage 1 and Reykjavik: FPX, Fnatic, G2, Liquid
2022 Stage 2 and Copenhagen: FPX, Fnatic, Guild, Liquid
not a val player but Twistzz kinda hot tho
Flexibility: Jamppi > yay
Consistency: yay > Jamppi
Peak: yay > Jamppi
yes but soulcas is pretty fucking good tho lmao
he's a rifler, not an oper
but honestly, he's probs a better oper than d3ffo at this point
great for him tbh since didn't he say he wanted a more aggressive role but was on support duty with Liquid? Still not sold on vakk and MONSTEERR but the trio of cNed, L1NK, and starxclooks pretty solid.
edit: I meant starxo my bad
But it hasn't been 8 years since they played has it? You don't go from being called a top 3 player in the world to not even being in the top 10 just because you haven't been in the international stage in a few months. Being absent from 1 or 2 LANs doesn't discredit your overall skill. It goes the other way as well, playing great in 1 LAN doesn't automatically make you a top 5 player in the world.
yay and f0rsaken are top 3 for sure but Shao and ardiis are not top 3 and 4.
recency bias
Chronicle, nAts, cNed, nukkye, ScreaM, TenZ, leaf would all be in Top 10 contention if they were in this LAN
Iceland 2021 - Sentinels (NA team that people thought to be the best in the world)
Iceland 2022 - Optic (NA team that people thought to be the best in the world)
Berlin 2021 - Gambit (EMEA/CIS team that beat Optic/ENVY)
Copenhagen 2022 - FPX (EMEA/CIS team that beat Optic/ENVY)
Champions 2021 - Acend (EU team that underperformed in Berlin)
Champions 2022 - Fnatic (EU team that underperformed in Copenhagen)
Obviously this doesn't work if PRX wins which I would not have any problem with.
had a closer match against Paper Rex
Despite it being 2-1 in favor of PRX. Optic and Fnatic both got the same number of rounds off PRX (21 rounds) despite Optic playing 3 maps.
Fnatic beat literally only the same teams that DRX did, which is FPX with a sub and Leviatan
This is true but this doesn't really discount Fnatic's strength, it just shows that DRX are a lot closer to Optic/Fnatic. It can honestly be FNC>=Optic>=DRX or FNC = Optic >= DRX.
edit: disregard this, accidentally replied to the wrong comment
Ah yes, George Bush's Valorant account: gdubz #911
Why are people denying that Fnatic is not equal, if not better, than Optic?
Fnatic opponents this LAN:
FPX twice (finalist, but won once)
PRX (finalist, arguably top 2 in the world)
LEV (3-0'd KRU in Challengers)
Optic opponents in LAN:
FPX (finalist)
Loud (kinda underperformed this LAN, but a very good team)
KRU (also a good team but not top 5)
DRX (good team but not on the level of EMEA teams)
are all so good. Fnatic, FPX, and one of Acend, M3C, Guild, Liquid, and maybe even G2.
Acend, M3C - already won a LAN
Guild - proved itself to be a world-class team
Liquid - depends on their 5th man but is good on paper
G2 - decent but inconsistent
finally getting the international recognition he deserves? One of the best players in EMEA but FPX wasn't a world level team before SUYGETSU and ardiis joined. He used to be FPX's best player and now he isn't even asked to do a lot because SUYGETSU and ardiis are both monsters.
Who I think they'll get: zeek
Who I want them to get but will never happen: nukkye
Who they'll probably get: neither of these two
its sad not seeing Steel Ball Run in most of these lists
A major for the most handsome esports player ever, Russel fucking Van Dulken
ScreaM
Nivera
Jamppi
L1NK
Lakia
Probably won't happen but a man can dream.
Pretty hard though since stats can sometimes be inflated if the player plays in a "weaker" region. If only international stats are counted, it would leave out players who are undoubtedly talented but can't get to the international stage like Wardell.
Hell no. Maybe the only possibility this happens is if ScreaM retires and Jamppi becomes a dedicated duelist.
I know, but he's not playing rn so I'm not sure if he'll play in Masters too
This might sound crazy but NA might actually have a chance to beat EMEA teams this Masters.
Russian players might not be allowed to go. Basically, Fnatice wont have BraveAF, FPX won't have Shao and SUYGETSU (maybe even ANGE1), and M3C (if they qualify) might not be able to make it at all.
Chronicle
nAts
cNed
Derke
yay
nukkye
leaf
trent
penny
ScreaM
Honorable mentions: Shao, TenZ, Cryo, Sheydos, Mistic
I only counted the games where they played as smokers.
He'll only get like around 6 podiums this year anyway. Top 4 would be LEC-VER-SAI-PER 75% of the time and Hamilton has to rely on any two of those four to DNF so he can get a podium.
Still hoping for Verstappen to win the WDC. He DNFed thrice and got 9th once last year yet still won. If Red Bull stays reliable for the rest of the year, he can probably win it.
Meanwhile in EMEA:
M3C nAts: 134/88/48; 1.52 (actually fucking insane)
M3C Chronicle: 89/63/55; 1.41 (also fucking insane)
FNC Mistic: 203/148/87 ; 1.38
TL L1NK: 134/120/65 ; 1.12
Would it help? Yes. Is it enough? No. 100T needs ShahZam + one more good piece in order to compete.
Brehze, zekken, Pr0phie, and Osias are all confirmed to have Filipino blood. For Cryo, it isn't confirmed but he probably has. I mean, look at him and his last name.
Put Cryo and Brehze in a PH team then we'll be relevant.
They know me from my none taps
Hot take but I think Sayaplayer is good in Valorant
The only way NA would succeed is if zombs plays for EU
I think everyone has V1 over SEN so don't worry.
Sentinels are just saving strats for Valorant 2
For those asking for the players outside NA/EMEA, I've looked back at the list.
#21. VK heat
#24. X10C Patiphan
#25. VK Sacy
#26. VS stax
#34. KRU Klaus
#37. VS BuZz
#38. VS Lakia
#41. VS Rb
#42. KRU delz1k
#50. KRU NagZ
#51. VS Mako
#52. VS k1ng
#53. KRU Mazino
#54. X10C sushiboys
#56. TS DubsteP
#57. VK mwzera
Also, if anyone's asking:
#48. TSM Wardell
The only other significant survey I had was the one after Masters Stage 3 last year which had around 21k responses. Here's the top 20 from back then:
I feel like the rankings after Champions is more accurate though. I'll try to make more surveys after each Masters to see each player's progression throughout the year.
After Champions last year, I held a survey to find out who the best Valorant pros are. The survey had 65,173 responses and the top 20 was:
Since it's already Stage 1 Playoffs for each region, how much do you think the top 20 would change?
Is Chronicle the best?
nAts and TenZ out of top 5?
Derke > Scream? pennyS top 10?
ardiis, Shao, trent, and Cryo top 20?
Liquid better get their act together if they don't wanna get ass fucked in the playoffs
After 56029 votes, the top 10 looks more reasonable.
The list just get skewed at first because of the lack of votes. The top 10 now is more reasonable.
oh lmao that's a typo mb, should be Brave
After 14460 votes, the current top 10 are:
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