this guy destroyed a quake legends team. return vouch.
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this guy destroyed a quake legends team. return vouch.
Did you miss the table of contents? A lot of people missed that page.
Low key I heard that m4 is to blame for the new format.
I pay in dollhairs. Is that okay?
Upset this isn't one of my threads.
Convincing me the answer is less work is not an argument I'm willing to entertain. Valorant is a e-dating scene these days. It's not serious anymore. We all feel it. Some of us just prefer drama over competition.
Just reinforced the idea that esports isn't merit based. Thanks for the help!
Shoon, I would like you to go back to those comments and re-read them. They are punching down. I have done a lot of reading in my life and can tell the difference. And for some of the people on that list, they use really bad arguments to try to beat you into submission. I just find that sort of engagement boring.
The fact is that my work stood in stark contrast to theirs. There are a limited number of spots and this is a competitive space. I have been through this before. I know how it works.
And pass on this level of entertainment? I'm just sad my 15 minutes are up.
I know, I usually kill them and when I can't and they have perfect tracking and can see me through the wall pre-aiming... Sorry I gave you visual proof lol.
I had some really good teachers who taught me that information shared among many is better than gatekept by a few. Ideas can be sparked from things people read. Everyone looks at what I created as if I would pack it up and leave and never talk to another player ever again. These are foundations and building blocks for discussions. Why is everyone scared of a 100 pages?
The size should not scare you. It has a table of contents. If you want to skip the section on basic information about the map, I gave you a guide and I put it at the beginning to do that :)
I wrote two 115 page guides. One was for Icebox, One was for FNC Haven. Everyone is upset that the introduction covers the maps. They are right that it is chatgpt produced. I asked chatgpt to describe the map. I mean I have a couple hundred hours on each of the maps, I wanted to see what chatgpt would produce. I'm sure a lot of people don't realize that chatgpt is trained on reddit. So I basically asked for reddits take on the things that make the map unique, a description around the theme and release date. It's funny because chatgpt is an accumulation of the critics opinions. They really got me there.
I then turn my attention to the players. I used rib.gg to produce the pictures the community so loves. I don't believe in watching film and producing reports because I think it is very easy for the opponents to change. The game is too fluid to be so concrete. However, I did the activity and catalogued it here : https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1U02rpKLO580ozSZ04tqUrgYrfYfHlsE2?usp=drive_link
I basically analyzed the kill, death and movements of each player. Trying to capture where they enjoy to play and I assume that people enjoy to play where they are productive. And that information is shown in the heatmap. Once again, September 2024, Chatgpt didn't have the ability to analyze pictures. It is simply my words edited by chatgpt. I come from a professional background where communication is important. Chatgpt has phd level english writing skills. To not use it is irresponsible, especially a topic that is complex and I'm delivering information via text. I wouldn't want to lose anyone in my horrible writing (which is probably happening right now)
I then move on to general overviews of how they function as a team. I review the specifics around their agents because I think it is a good indication on how they will perform. You can accurately track tracker.gg data and amount of time played/performance to how they perform match day. I think some organizations know this because some players have made their data private.
Lastly, and probably the biggest critique I'm getting is that I don't have a big section around the opponents strategies. That's because I'm more of a behavioralist and believe that people follow successful patterns, especially when under pressure. So that section is light. I don't really take the comments seriously because I was them once. I believed you could perfectly understand your opponent and that they were static. I then got punished really hard in a match for that assumption. There are no books written about Valorant. No one has gone to school for Valorant. People are just repeating patterns that have been successful for them.
I also created a bunch of other material I released in the thread. I basically did this because I was given a platform to do so. I'm not a big believer in the current system that is being followed by majority of coaches. I've been around a long time. I've been through many iterations of esports. I know that the majority of Overwatch coaches were VOD recorders. I know the narrative about this contribution changed some how to them becoming experts. You can't tell me the past doesn't exist when I lived it.
In the end, I'm just hoping to change a couple people's views about how intellectual pursuits should be done. As a player, I would hope that my coaches were doing everything they can to help us win. If that means creating a 500 page document, let's get that done. These players have such a short time as pros because teams are flailing. I'm just offering a potential reason. I don't know why it caught fire. I didn't make anything up. I tried to stay away from people attacking what I created with no context. But yeah, at some point around 100 posts of people offering negative opinions, I had to stand up for what I thought was right. And that put me at the opposite end of established coaches with losing records. I wanted to point that out because it's hidden when you search it. You only see the accomplishments of coaches. When you actually dig deeper, players have way more of an impact than any coach. The facts track with that statement. But it will be attacked because it attacks the illusions that people have built. And it's reinforced by some really bad assumptions.
It was actually over the course of 3 days. People didn't believe me at the time that Marvel had a cheating problem.
https://tracker.gg/marvel-rivals/profile/ign/ttvmetaphour/overview
Did you know that Marvel Rivals doesn't have a customer service? No where else to spread the information. Plus a lot of the cheaters came into the stream and tried to defend their clips. I found it entertaining bait.
More information is always better. Lot's of pros will post highlights or reactions. I take a more behavioral approach to strategy in the world of on-the-fly calling of igls.
OpenAI is upset at your comments.
Where have I denied criticism? There are just people I refuse to take advice from. This is a complex topic and people want to pretend they have a grasp on it. They don't. It shows. Don't you see it on VCT? When a team gets blown out, does anyone ever make a negative comment? Nope. Both sides did great. How do you progress without honesty?
I've said if people don't like my work, I understand. I think they are a bit quick to judge, but it's the internet. I can't control what they do. I'm just trying to highlight the hypocrisy that we are being forced to live with. To believe that an organization would let a "great coach" go... come on.
The mob likes their idols. Idols usually get their start being the first to do things. Once again, I can't control what the general public think, I'm just trying to have one person change their mind. One person to believe that a genre called "tactical first person shooter" deserves a bit more respect than a one page analysis.
One simply follows the rabbit hole. They are not even to the good stuff yet.
Change is usually unpopular. If people want a lesser product then I can just burn out in a couple days. At least I tried and I'm okay to be the person to carry this. Just kind of tired of the narrative that is spun around esports these days. No criticism is allowed and everyone is awesome.
It's pretty funny how everyone thinks chatgpt had the ability to interpret images in September 2024. Have you tried that even today? More hallucinations than the sum of burning man.
This is bait. Top ten coaches:
Please present a winning coach's opinion and I will follow it.
It's weird you live in a dream where the coaches who spend their time on VLR are people you should hold up as experts. Why would you get angry if I pulled up their win loss history? I can't help that the coaches who commented had systems that were broken but the community still thinks they are great. It really is just if you were here in the beginning, you have a forever pass with the community.
If anything you should want change. Do you really want to see a losing coach get a role again? It's confusing. Where is the logic? The mental gymnastics you have to perform to say these are legitimate coaches, it's wild. You would be better off with a coin making your decisions, at least you could approach 50%.
To spawn conversations. To take a holistic approach. Ideas are spawned off of random things. People make connections in weird ways. I throw everything in order to catch the different ways people learn. Some people are visual, some people need to actually work with the idea. I have no idea who these players are and yeah, just an attempt to discuss all aspects of the map.
Crap! I forgot I didn't show this video I made. I mentioned it earlier, its the coaching application video.
Hey everyone! Hope everyone is having a lovely day! I created more chatgpt content for you!
Here's a website for ya: https://www.valorant.tips
And then I also created these chatgpt guides:
Maps: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1bIldtAlezCaI18qLhfJmMAEKf26TcMWu/view?usp=drive_link
General Agents Guide: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1aStnBy0Q2clZpfqo6Gw2jE3TE5RfQjhV/view?usp=drive_link
Aiming: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1TXQ9dQLdZoKAK1Hp_TfJlMyLshWdDoli/view?usp=drive_link
Happy to hear your feedback :)
Sorry, I can read an insult when I see it. A lot of people jumped in without context. The purpose of this thread has some how turned to me. I'm okay with that. I'm willing to defend my work and die on a hill for it.
I don't believe in the lazy approach that these coaches take. I'm not going to take to heart comments from people who pursue the easy way. I believe their win records reflect these positions. I think that they waste the time of players by making it comfortable and easy for them. The players should be upset because they are all on a clock. Delivering picture books to players and losing is not what I would want to spend my money on if I was an org owner either.
45 vlr readers believe picture books are better than research. I'm shocked. (edited for clarity)
Did you just answer your own question? I would hope you don't think this would just be handed over with no explanation...
Also the AI generated comment, it's probably stuffed somewhere deep in this thread but that's chatgpt's form of grammar edits. More than happy to produce the original. My bad that I'm not a PhD candidate English level writer.
So you think that because people have a hard time learning something, we should lower the bar? Make it easier? I don't follow. I don't know what school was like for you but the cliff notes of Hamlet is not the same as reading Hamlet. The eternal dumbing down of information to please people has left us with a messy situation. I promise you, lowering yourself to the level of "20 year old tiktok brained gamers" is not the way my friend. I also had a full-time job leading a 12 person team. We find time.
And Elevated, I'm responding to you because I know who you are. Your line about having no connections is not congruent with reality.
I lied. If some how I do make it... Everyone in this thread is getting this treatment:
Last thing I'm going to say on this thread.
If the popular way to do things worked then it would work.
100T's Coaching staff pretended to go outside and preyed on people's dreams. That's not cool. The simple fact is that me and many others were not talked to and they ended up with a tier 2 coach and a radiant player.
I just wanted to draw attention to that fact. The fact that Nadeshot talks about how he tried to do everything and here is a good example where the effort level was near zero.
If you don't like my work, that's fine. Like I said, if the current meta for coaching was a working system, we would have successful coaches. But in reality, we don't. Most coaches have a negative win rate. I'm just trying to be an advocate for the community. I think you deserve better. I think you deserve people who do more work than less.
Sorry if you disagree.
Unfortunately in the world of competitive sports we are measured by wins and losses. No offense but I'm going to pass on your advice.
https://liquipedia.net/valorant/MCe/Coaching
Maryville Esports
Total Wins: 5
Total Losses: 12
Record: 5-12
Cloud9
Total Wins: 4
Total Losses: 4
Record: 4-4
The Guard
Total Wins: 7
Total Losses: 9
Record: 7-9
Gen.G Esports
Total Wins: 3
Total Losses: 13
Record: 3-13
I think I'm just going to respond to this one. I think certain people are being unprofessional. I understand that this person has had a hard time dealing with organizations and people who have different opinions to them. I'm simply not going to engage.
In the data, you can see why these teams do not perform at the level they should. If you mix the tracker ranked data with the data of previous performances, it gives you a pretty clear idea of how they will perform.
I don't think there is enough discussion and agreement on the fundamentals. The conversations that come out of those are more towards unification of ideas. If a player feels that holding on site is the best way to do something and you have a player on the opposite side of that then that's a discussion you should have. And there are hundreds of those discussions to be had all across the map. Everyone has to be on the same page or the house of cards can collapse.
On top of this, you pretty much need to have a mutual understanding of how your teammates are going to respond to things. You're 100% right that they have 8k hours combined but all of that is from different perspectives.
And to your idea about money, one of the greatest coaches of all time meditated with his players. I challenge your notion that it would be a waste of time.
First, none of this truly matters. If you're reading this post please consider donating to the victims of the Los Angeles fires:
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Second, someone cool helped me out with my submission and I want to give him a shoutout, Nabil Elouahabi, basically gave me a bunch of dialogue that I created a fun video for my submission. He has a Cameo page and you should check it out ( https://www.cameo.com/valorant1973 )
Third, I think a couple of important people jumped to conclusions about my work. I don’t think you can fit my system into the traditional way of doing things. While I appreciate their critiques, their time spent was a bit misguided.
I would also like to take the time to again point out the current state of the landscape. We see what the current work leads to. My comments about the size of the analysis that is handed over to players should alarm you as a viewer. You cannot truly believe that handing a one page response to a player is anything close to professional. If you disagree with me, I would point you to HBO specials like Hard Knock: https://www.hbo.com/hard-knocks . Just look at the binders they carry around. That sort of preparation is what leads to amazing sports moments. Talent needs knowledge to thrive. Many people do not have this knowledge required so they make it about other things.
Thank you to the people who took the time to read my work. Good or bad, if you actually took the time to read it, I appreciate you.
The context that is missing from the critiques is that my work leads to discussions. The number one rule in any sort of strategy effort is that your perfect plan is going to fail. The sizing of this is supposed to acknowledge that. There needs to be a foundation from which knowledge can grow.
A one page analysis of your analysts thoughts and conclusions is not going to get you there. You don’t know any of the inputs such as their skill and knowledge of the subject, how they are feeling, what experience they have in composing documents that require them to be non-bias or even if they had a bad breakfast.
I spent some time on individual players. But I think many of my critics think it is just the 100T and FNC players. Nope, it was 19 different teams.
https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1SJK_Brlfyf0urXM0rbqdXmpk6qgad_9Z?usp=drive_link
I didn’t feel like I could adequately give an analysis report without doing the film. So in addition to my work and research into the players, I needed to see the games that the past teams played to see if there were any adjustments in the way they played. An analysis would be pointless if it was an entirely different roster/comp/coach.
So what I did was cut every single game into rounds. From each of those rounds I created a mini-map focused video. This way I could see at a high level what is usually missed in analysis work if you were purely using VCT footage.
https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1U02rpKLO580ozSZ04tqUrgYrfYfHlsE2?usp=drive_link
Once again, the goal of my work is not the output. It’s the path I journey to get to a place of expertise that can then be utilized by the organization.
I'm not going to attack anyone individually but I would just like to point out that my work is a direct attack on theirs. To see what someone is capable of and then to have to look at your work product can produce jealousy. As people in positions of privilege they should look at my work and applaud it. I tried and produced something of value. It's just weird that you would take 10 minutes of skimming it to try and destroy it. That's some shameful stuff. Do better.
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