Wow, one match where Leviatan barely won map 1

That's weird

I wasn't talking about NRG.

I'm just saying it's not 2 teams only. EMEA is underrated as a region, while Americas still might be the best on average. Let's not judge Liquid, KOI, Giants, Vitality, KCorp, BBL based on few games.

I can say the same. EMEA have had some upsets and some underdogs so they should have another chance to show them what they have been working on.

If you open tournament results you will see:

Grand final: 1 EMEA, 0 Pacific
Semifinals: 2 EMEA, 1 Pacific
Quarterfinals: 2 EMEA, 2 Pacific
1/8 finals: 6 EMEA, 3 Pacific

In what way is Pacific better?

EMEA outperformed Pacific at this tournament in every possible way

2 teams only 🤡🤡🤡

Liquid will improve. KOI is good, unlucky opponent 1st round. There's also Giants and BBL looking very promising.

C9, 100T and Leviatan were mid
Same level as KOI, Vitality, Giants or BBL

EMEA and Americas as regions are equal

3 slots for APAC looks like a gift already

Except for yay? It's not like yay was performing better than others on C9 lmao

You didn't even understand my point. I'm not trying to label all men or all women as with equal qualities. I'm looking at the general occurence that boys are ON AVERAGE more competitive than girls, men are ON AVERAGE more competitive than women.

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25 posts per day? Take a break my guy

EMEA has always deserved the same amount of slots as Americas or Pacific

Prove what? Obvious things?

It is overrated. In fact, misogyny is widespread only in third world countries. In the West, it's an overblown issue by leftists.

It's not about whether it affects me or not. I am having a conversation on the topic, I am allowed to have one, especially when others seem to be very uneducated on the matter.

LOUD doesn't deserve them

eastern european >>>>>

Yes, but the winner of this match will have no time to prep, so if LOUD win it's a fluke

Also LOUD had a lot of days to fix their mistakes when Omega group was undergo

How do you know that? Again, they're in tier4. Not LEC, not NLC, not even NLC 2nd div, they literally are in NLC 3rd div.

Imagine saying some male playing in NLC 3rd div would do well in a tier2 team. No, he wouldn't, because he's not good enough. And neither would these girls.

DangMoo doesn't even play in Sandbox Youth or Academy or elsewhere. In fact she never played for them, how is she exceptional?

How do you know caltys is exceptional? It's like saying meL is exceptional because she's good against others in GC.
Caltys didn't make it anywhere even in tier3, so there's no proof of your words.

Where is this G2 HeL playing? The last result of them on Liquipedia is bombing out of NLC 2nd div qualifier 1 month ago. So they're not even tier3, because NLC 2nd div is tier3.

Apparently too few if no girl is playing in LoL tier1/tier2 scene
But there's been instances of trans playing there or in other esports

Agree

I'm lazy to summarize everything, but people who say genetics don't matter are so wrong

Chess exists for hundreds of years yet there's 98% / 2%

In esports it's not even 99% / 1% so far, as no woman plays among men

Or maybe it's the fact that boys are genetically more willing to compete from the very young age than girls? No, how dare me suggest something like this.

It doesn't work like that

Trans have significantly smaller playerbase yet achieved more in esports than "cis". Why is that? There's a very obvious explanation. But no, biology can't be the reason, how dare me.

I don't like Tate at all. It's funny you think anyone who says sexes are biologically different in many aspects is a Tate lover.

Don't know how many times I'll have to repeat that occurence of hard-working dedicated to competition girls matters. They're almost non-existent, they just don't like FPS, get over it.

Societal conditioning is a cope, whatever it is. As someone said below, which is a very good argument, boys have testosterone, girls have estrogen. The first stimulates boys to be more competitive. You are brainwashed by woke narratives.

At some point if you enter the high elo/pro scene you have to reveal your identity to some degree

No, it's definitely possible to grind to higher ranks in LoL without event talking in real life. All you need are pure mechanical skills, and somehow no girl has ever made it far enough.

The moment people connect your online name to the female gender you are going to face discrimination

This is so much overblown issue. Like in vast majority of times I meet girls in games, my random male teammates tend to be nice instead of angry.

But the reason in once again societal pressure.

Someday you will get out of this delusion. Women are born to be usually less competitive. But men are worse in something else. We're not the same.

ll women are different and several may have a strong competitive urge

Never said all women are the same. But when analyzing statistics, you have to look at average results. No one cares if there is this one genius not-like-others girl beating the shit out of 99% male players. Occurence of such girls matters. And currently they are scarce.

Exactly. Not just social challenge though.

Have you ever went to school as a kid? Have you compared the behaviour of boys and girls at any age, whether it's 7, 10, 13 or 16 years old?

It's not lmao
They're not as willing to become great in sports or esports or any competition, that's all. Biological reason. Nothing wrong to acknowledge that men are genetically on average more fierce.

I'm going from the obvious biological fact that women are much less competitive. Hence streamer option when there's a lot of males ready to be watching you and donating you is an easier choice.

florescent is trans or nonbinary, no idea which one.

have a harder path going the traditional route

Their path would be exactly the same as ours. The whole misogyny issue is definitely overrated and not nearly the main cause for women underperforming in gaming.

Evertime a girl uses the mic theres a 50%+ chance of getting told to shut the fuck up because youre a woman or the old " Back to the kitchen" Or " Girl in team = lose", "you suck (cuz girl) " etc

That's a reach. Not nearly 50% chance. In fact, women are more likely to be treated in a favourable way, because their teammates might like them.

Anyway, how many LoL female pros are there? I'm sure you can play LoL without using comms, so team doesn't know you're a woman. So why is there a same situation in LoL, not a single biological woman has ever made it far?

They need a bit of a push or some incentive from the community to make gaming accessible to them and to make it a viable career option for them

Why? Why do they need a push? Why do they need a career in gaming? If they don't want to play and don't feel like playing to become the best of the best against men on equal terms, why do you want to force them to do something which they clearly don't enjoy otherwise?

Because I have all the logical reasons to feel this way.

Even if there is a genius girl player (it's possible), she would rather stream for easier money and eaiser lifestyle, than actually force herself to work 8 hours per day for years to become equal to the best men in the scene skill wise.

In years, nothing is gonna change. No biological woman will ever appear in tier2 let alone tier1 and manage to stabilize there. You will see it, and someday you will lose this delusion.

Keep going dude, it's only the misogyny, it's never the biology and the fact that men are usually born to be more competitive and immune to competitive environments

Everyone gets harrassed and discriminated in any game. Men, women, trans, everyone. There are toxic players, and they will always try to put you down. No matter what your gender is.

Are you saying that women are more sensitive, so they lose attention to the game so easily because of hate? Well that's another reason supporting my point.

Yes, they aren't. Women are not nearly as keen on becoming the best of the best in a videogame as men are. They may hit a certain point of progress, and after that vast majority of them will give up and do some other productive things in life.

babysasuke has no value outside of this website

I probably talked to more girls than you. You're someone who denies reality and difference between sexes for the sake of being nice and compassionate.

I'm not hating women by any means. If you see hate anywhere in my messages, it's only your problem.

Really?

How many women play chess? I presume quite a lot. Around 15%.
How many of grandmasters are women? 2%.

By your logic, there would be 15% female grandmasters of all grandmasters. But it's clearly not the case.

Or are women also being so much harrassed in chess, to the point where they can't perform to their fullest? I suggest you better stop coping.