vlr without shownu would be goated tho

EU frog watching tier 2 NA valorant? i mean i would never watch tier 2 EU. yay stays rent free in ur head lil bro

but did he get diffed tho?

yeah not even that hot. u take 1 player out of ANY top team right now and place him in DSG and you will have the similar results. its always the team not any individual player

bro wrote a book and yet missed to address everything - just pasting nonsense articles, cherry picking facts to build a narrative - you are only fooling yourself.

• its fact not opinion : any BR player would jump to go to EU because its better. EU doesnt discriminate so they allow talent from anywhere and get behind them and support them - it doesnt matter their nationality or language or race or color of skin. BR has been a HUGE beneficiary of this benevolence. Based on how BR crowds act in esports it seems they are incapable of basic sportsmanship.

• second paragraph filled with ur own opinion - u dont speak for any player - they decide if they wanna play for money or competitiveness and they are free to chose either. plenty of examples of people who chose either.

• thats a chat gpt ass paragraph defining terms that u probably dont know anything about. Your original question reeks of jingoism and self praise. Here are some questions which i asked earlier : do u just drive jap/eu/usa cars cause BR cars suck? do u just use smartphones made in China cause BR phones suck? do u just play games made by American/Chinese video game companies like Riot and Valve cause BR cant make video games? omg it must be such a bad feeling for not having so many good things which have a BR tag on it that u have to support foreign shit!!! - Now this might seem like "facts" to you but these are snide remarks to show how other regions are superior to BR in 10000s of other areas where u are "forced" to support foreign stuff. Every country supports foreign shit to an extent and in a world that is interconnected you cannot have everything available in a single country. Pointing it out like u have in this thread only makes u an asshole.

All large developing countries have huge potential if the infrastructure surrounding the sport/esport is built and nurtured so Riot taking a bet on China cannot go wrong. China/India/Brazil are always nice bets

Delusional if you think Brazilians did not benefit from EU clubs - you yourself said they are more competitive - who gets the credit for developing and maintaining that competitiveness in the scene? Is it not the EU clubs? Go compare the budget of any big EU club with any BR club for training, physical therapy, medical treatments, food and nutrition. If you think any random ass person without proper coaching, training, nutrition and facilities can become the next Ronaldo then you are delusional beyond measure. It is not just the technique of playing football and yes EU did develop their own tactics and techniques in football too which have won them several trophies - things which Brazilians benefitted from and took them back to their country. It is a 2 way street and the fact EU appreciates talent irrespective of nationality and doesn't shun BR players saying why would we support players outside of our country is appreciable - but I guess you cannot understand as u cant even stand to applaud EU victory over ur beloved BR - its called sportsmanship. I think in the whole deal - BR benefits from this deal more than EU does. BR clubs make money by selling players but they cant use that money to retain and make their clubs as good as EU clubs? Isnt that a failure of BR clubs and Brazilians in general? You say no EU country has 5 valo players to support their country so they are forced to support EU in general - can i say that no Brazilian club inspite of having 5x population and craze behind football can create and sustain a club that can stand up to big EU clubs? Im sure most of you would skip ur local teams match to watch UEFA champions league final - an European tournament.

In the link you gave me, it clearly says Messi's contract couldnt be fullfilled at Barca because of their financial situation at the time. So he didnt just leave for CL - there is an added and important reason that he could not continue at Barca and btw he is in talks to go back to Barca. It just says PSG gave him the best deal where he has the chance to win his 5TH CL - thats not even the main reason why. You in your first statement said all players prioritize competitiveness over money - which I refuted with Ronaldo and Neymar's example. There are several such examples of players going to clubs with bigger money irrespective of how competitive the environment would be - ofcourse none of them would admit and say we went for the bag - you can google for more such players. You simply made a generalized statement saying everyone prefers competitive > money which is not true. Nobody cares if Ronaldo got criticized for the move - the fact he took the decision is reason enough to refute ur claim of comp>money.

Hyper - jingoism is sold by politicians across the globe. In America, these idiots cry "buy american, make america great again" I dont wanna get into polit*cs here but these people live the most miserable lives who have nothing to show for themselves so they hide behind the flag. This jingoism is saddest in poorer and underdeveloped nations like Brazil because it is sold by corrupt politicians who will turn each and every situation and make it about the country. People eat this shit up and never question their own country or leaders and get worked up trying to defend their country online. You are a victim here - next time you get up and ask rich EU countries why they dont have 5 valorant players to cheer for - ask Brazilian clubs why cant we retain BR talent and make EU guys come play for us? Why cant we buy optic players or fnatic players.. how come Sacy and pancada leave to go to US? these questions are uncomfortable but truly patriotic - these questions benefit Brazil more than your original question would ever benefit Brazil. i have nothing else to say to you, have a good rest of ur life. sorry if i hurt u.

ur neither convincing nor confusing anyone with ur delusional hyper-jingoistic takes. in ur first paragraph, you conveniently talk about how BR exports resulted in an exposure to their playing style and create "equalized" football without acknowledging the fact that said BR talent also benefited from developed training facilities and tactics being developed in EU. Not to mention, BR clubs making money off their sales. Neither do u mention how it is the failure of BR clubs to retain their talent and these trade secrets of football but somehow it is the fault of EU for not being xenophobic and accepting BR talents into their much advanced training facilities and provide extravagant life only for them to return to BR and represent BR in international competitions. yours are not facts, just convenient stories to support ur narrative of BR vs the world and how everyone has connived to deny u a WC for 20 years except ur own faults.

again ur wrong in second paragraph. messi didnt leave barca for champions league there was more to it. there is no competitiveness angle to choosing PSG for Neymar either, he couldve easily chosen more competitive environment. cr7 is 38 and has 5? champion leagues so yh he prioritized money aswell.

again there is nothing convincing or confusing about this hyper-jingoistic take of urs. i have probably visited more countries and experienced cultures to tell u that none of what u are saying is alien to me - i know and i've seen people with such beliefs - it is usually propagated by corrupt politicians in their countries which makes them believe their country is special and everyone is against them. u made a snide remark basically saying "hey EU u guys just support continent cause no country is able to provide 5 individual players who can rep u like LOUD could with BR hahaha" but as i mentioned most countries in EU can hit back at u in 100 areas where there is no BR representation and in valorant/cs as per the population ratio if u have 5 good players compared to 2 or 3 from Germany or Spain - thats not even a bad ratio to be clowning about - u have 5 times their individual populations.

1. 20 years of drought is an exaggeration - there have been only 5 world cups in these 20 years and the fact that in these 20 years, BR players have moved to EU clubs cannot be held as a causation of their supposed drought. There could be several other reasons why - including the fact that other teams/nations have developed in the game. England hasnt won the World Cup in so many years - not because their players were playing in EPL or any other league. Simple fact that BR players are playing with the best (as u said) + winning titles for clubs shows there hasnt been any drop in their talent by moving to these clubs so holding that as a reason for BR not winning a WC makes 0 sense. Correlation =/= Causation.

2. Chinese teams are not competing for fresh talent. There is example of your very own Neymar going to PSG over Barcelona or even other EPL teams. Do you think French league is more competitive than La Liga or even EPL? So your argument of competitiveness > money is not true for all cases. It depends from player to player.

3. "EU supports other countries because no choice" "BR players play in EU because of better opportunities+money" - Do u not see the irony and bias in your statements? Using your logic can one not say that BR footballers have no choice to play in BR leagues because they are broke and cannot retain top tier talent? Its the same as saying "oh u learn English because Portuguese sucks no opportunities" "Oh u prob just play video games from American companies like Riot and Valve cause BR companies suck" "Oh u prob watch Hollywood movies cause BR movies suck" "Oh u prob drive a jap/eu/usa car cause BR autmobile sucks" ---- this is xenophobia and self praising of ur own nation not understanding that the world is diverse and interconnected and everyone benefits from every country.

i think she is protecting tenz, not zekken with those backhanded comments

Your argument makes no sense. There is no evidence to say Brazilian players were better when they played for BR clubs - if that was the case why doesnt your current squad just field BR club players - or are they not as good as the ones who go to EU clubs? How do Brazilians win so many club trophies in EU? Why cant u accept the fact that EU is not xenophobic enough to accept BR players and train them and give them money? The fact that you think because Im American, I cannot know anything about football (yh i dont call it soccer and dont watch NFL) tells me everything i need to know about you. There are people who enjoy/support stuff outside of their national/cultural/racial boundaries - you are somehow incapable to understand this.

"80% of your '94 and 2002 winning teams played for European clubs". There have been 5 world cups in last 20 years - other nations dont just come there to participate. you won 3/7 copa americas in last 20 years though - the other 4 winners also had several european club players btw. If there is an argument which is unsustainable on this thread - its yours

yeah i agree chamber was too good but the question asks for rivalry for jett/raze - I feel not enough people complain about it and if u compare Jett with reyna/phx/yoru the difference is way too big. In my opinion almost as big as the one between jett and Chamber.

I aint talking about the 1950s obviously.. 80% of your '94 and 2002 winning teams played for European clubs. Even now most of your players play for European clubs where they get the money and training which they wouldnt in Brazil. Maybe this wouldnt happen if the Europeans were xenophobic enough to not encourage Brazilian talent. But hey - dont question that because it works for you and BR!!

chamber. in all fairness i believe everyone just loves jett and they are biased towards the agent. if there is an agent introduced which can replace jett - most people will just hate it.

Fuck Them Kids - Michael Jackson

BRA71L is the GOAT. But if it wasnt for the European clubs who "supported" foreign talented Brazilian players with facilities and money. Brazil wouldnt win a single trophy.

Why is it so hard for you to grasp the idea that people can and will support players outside of their country/race/religion/color? Why do you even support LOUD or their players when they dont even know u exist - why not support people only in your MonkeySphere (people u know and talk to on a daily basis -)? Is the jingoism sold by the corrupt politicians in your nation mixed with cocaine that you cannot snap out of it?

great video : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FWTNMzK9vG4&ab_channel=TED-Ed

basically u care alot if u procrastinate, it is stress. so do things which can reduce ur stress levels

6 - USA, Canada, England, India, China, Japan. Not counting layover airports.

the quota on international talent in football is not because people will not be able to get behind brazillian players in france but because they feel the need to grow local talent. Its inferiority complex, jingoism and borderline racism which disables people to get behind and support people from diverse backgrounds.

i think people in the west, especially Europe dont mind getting behind and supporting people from diverse cultures as long as they are playing for their club/team or even country. There is alot of cross ethnic diversity in these regions as alot of talented individuals from around the world migrate there. Its the same as rooting for Neymar or Messi when he plays for Barca/PSG. They have no reason to look at what language they speak or how they look.

so? how does KRU looking good refute the fact that SEN looked good too? most teams are improving every week

LMFAO weirdo. did ur mom tell u about my "p*nis" size?

thats not even true. you're not supposed to anchor a site with ur aim, but your util. in a fair ranked game or even in a pro game, we can assume everyone has similar aim skill. Duelists have utility which enables them to take multiple frags and get away with it while sentinels dont. This is why Chamber during his meta was being called a duelist because he can get away and have multiple kills. I agree with dephh not being a great initiator.

my bad, peanut brain

pancada is the sentinel not dephh

well he only did bottom frag in 3/6 matches played in this league so every match is not true. Anyway he is the IGL so thats not even a main metric to measure his performance - but then his calling can be criticized based on the teams performance but since we cant really hear the comms - it could be something different affecting the team results. Maybe the team chemistry is not it? Maybe the strategy is not it? Maybe the fact they lost to really solid teams like Fnatic, NRG, LOUD, Leviathan and need more time as a team to get to their level? Idk, again im not even supporting dephh, just saying there could be other reasons.

i mean they won convincingly against MIBR and were decent against LOUD without him so it wouldve been the obvious choice to bench him.. moreover they have been practicing with Marved.

you cannot discuss what u dont see/hear.. unless u can VOD review the matches with audio calls from the team there is no way to find out whats wrong with the IGL. most of vlr is just guessing based on the score board where they see him bottom fragging so he must be the problem. Its just like ranked - the bottom fragging controller/sentinel must be the problem

0/8

nah this is biased AF. not even an honorable mention for FNS is crazy considering we know how much of a difference a good IGL can make. Fnatic/EU fan list

i feel like SEN might lose to EG and Furia. Id swap SEN and 100T with EG and Furia - not what I want but it is what it is

going by his dms, george might lose but would enjoy the fact that he actually gets to touch a woman.. even if its a slap

not a defender of dephh but asking anyone out of the 6 to IGL in the middle of the season right now will not result in better outcome for SEN. They are stuck with him for the rest of the league.

sorry for predicting future

did FNS tell you this? the only reason yay couldnt join the same team as FNS and co is because of his buyout being 3-4 times of the others

HEY FELLAS

are u guys ready for the match? keep ALL the dephh + whoever is at the bottom of the scoreboard HATE threads READY!!! some good thread ideas to spam VLR as soon as SEN loses a SINGLE round today :

1. TENZ IS NOT THE PROBLEM
2. DEPPH IS WORSE THAN TIER 2 REJECT RUNI
3. DEPPH SUCKS
4. TENZ DIED FOR THIS??

feel free to add more thread ideas below. we can all tier 3 sub to kyedae and tenz and buy their merch meanwhile - adding more millions to millionaires is always fun!!!!111 mods pls delete thread if SEN win.......:(

broke boy activities

overrated af. worst raze in the league

get called out for a braindead thread = call it a bait

bro what do u care.. u wont be meeting them in your silver division anyway

she picked the roster, shocking but true

id keep him for jett and for raze and other no jett comps bring zekken in.. Still feel he is a better OPer than Zekken

finally FNS realizes not everyone is Chronicle who can play any agent at the highest level.. let players play their comfort roles

ill just call him hfmi0dzjc9z7

viewership would be off the charts.. would beat super bowl fr fr

wym i have the script LOL

tenz gets benched.. he gets pissed off and asks Rob Moore to release him if they dont want him. Rob being egoistic says "aight bet tarik clears u anyway" and asks tarik to be their 6th man. TenZ now starts talking to DSG owner Toast on twitter appreciating him for the work and how kyedae enjoyed playing on his GC team.. and within the next hour DSG announce TenZ as the replacement for Steel and as the new IGL. TenZ puts out a tweet saying he will now show the world that he can play ANY role.

TenZ and yay carry DSG to ascension by 13-0ing EVERY team they meet on the way.

revenge arc starts now 👿👿👿👿👿👿

the way competition works is you dont get applauded for improving in matches, you do that in scrims and practice. For all we know LOUD could be fucking around trying different shit until they realize its enough and tighten the noose to hang EG for a good ol 13-0. Even if thats not the case, nobody cares if ur winning a few rounds more than ur last game or u take 1 map off an opponent if u keep losing the series. Idk, maybe its the fact that EG has no fans or nobody expected them to win which has given Potter and co a get out of jail free card and nobody questions them but the fact that these guys get to play franchised while alot of promising individuals have to sit out is annoying AF.