Absolutely contender for best player of the year, if not by default the best. Of all time really shouldn't even be a question - the answer is absolutely not.

Grouped in Champions 2022, 1.06 rating, nobody was taking note of him

Masters tokyo in 2023 (1.15 rating, #4 in the tournament) was the first time he really started standing out as a player.

Before Masters tokyo nobody was really talking about KK.

I'm not making him look like shit, KK was INSANE this tournament. But with 1 tournament win and only 1 other tournament where he was actually standing out as a player, you can never be the greatest of all time.

I think you don't understand what the "GOAT" means.

Greatest of ALL TIME. KK had 2 good tournaments.

By your definition, should valyn have been in the GOAT conversation before KK broke the record? He was tied for the record before it was broken.

Greatest of all time means consistently over a long period of time being at the top. KK wasn't eveb on stage until like last year, how the fuck can he be greatest of all time with 1 tournament win.

They're pretty decent clips

Also, you 100% are a CS-player, right? You move/use the Operator as if it's the CSGO AWP

First time I've ever agreed with you trembo

You're right though. He's a duelist that barely creates space

KK should not even be mentioned at all in a conversation about the GOAT of valorant.

Before last year nobody even knew who he was

Crazy recency bias.

on the lower end of americas if you look at everyone's current form

all abilities of vyse give info too

flash lets you know someone is flashed, like skye (different sound and there's a voiceline)

Walk through her trap thing and it makes a sound

Wall lets you know someone is there or through

not sure about ult

Probably some agent which doesn't have a lot of mobility, outplay potential or difficulty with abilities (setups/lineups/timing).

Brim, sage, clove, reyna, chamber, phoenix

those seem the obvious ones to me. Other agents have to be a lot more smart with their util or mobility IMO. This is why there also aren't any initiators on the list, their util is all very timing and gamesense dependent, and no mobility duelists, as their mobility unlocks a whole level of outplay potential

Timezones

Also who cares

Tbf in cs it was discovered american players were on adderall, would you really be surprised if some valorant pros take whatever advantage they can get with the money and pressure involved?

There were CS scandals in the past where it was discovered many american players were proven to be on adderall (old c9 roster)

This will never happen

Good attitude my guy. Enjoy the finals tomorrow!

You do realize the american posters are the worst when it comes to these kind of threads right? The european posts are merely a reaction to that retardation

Fnatic during its peak was like prime astralis, top 3 players in every role in the team, very tactical slow play, made all the big events and finals, redefined metas

That’s the spirit. Let’s lose all the rivalry crap. It was a great game to watch and we, the viewers, regardless of region, should enjoy it. Looking forward to the finals with the 2 most deserving teams of the tournament

Tell me you don’t understand the game without saying you don’t understand the game

13-3 and 3-1 in maps is lucky? Lmao

Derke is an amazing role player. Always takes the space required, always first into the fray. Uses his util really smart. Plays a wider variety of duelists at the highest level than aspas

You can be a better duelist while posting “worse” stats.

So for sure, in the duelist role, derke >> aspas

At first glance it seems more oppressive than fade and breach ult.

Also cutting off someone after they've gone into site is pretty sick - I imagine people will have to clear her util like they do with cypher

DRX is the best abyss team in the world at this point.

You think TH hasn't learned from that game? They won against FNC, FPX and FUT on it too

Didn't work on icebox, where SEN has a 100% winrate, and TH has even more footage than on Abyss

this makes 0 sense. They've not played it so why should you estimate they have it? While TH has looked quite good on it

I remember an 11-2 comeback

hell ye

obvious bait, but EDG was clearly the better team vs lev

figures

what's even wrong with this? It's a compliment, obviously

people will find racism in places there's no racism

not very cash money of you, gordon ramsay

sacy is not #1 because leo exists

that's mainly because people have started seeing the insane prices that stickers can fetch to be completely fair. Not because the game is that much bigger in 2023 than it was in 2019

don't know why you're getting downvoted. Those are all just facts tbh.

it IS bigger, it HAS better production, there ARE more game, capsules ARE tradable and could go up in value, it DOES have a market

None of these were remotely even opinions except for maybe the production.

5v5, pick hero, win fight, shoot turret

"Whether it's good or bad, but there's personality"

This is such an ass take. It was absolutely terrible. Literal crowd-cheating, death threats, booing teams.

I'll take the NPCs over brazilian crowds any day

you mean the worst crowd valorant has ever seen?

If you're not at Imperial, Oxford or Cambridge, I'd just start crying m8

you're talking about a dude who rages hardcore at random ranked teammates and acts crazy arrogant.

I've had the misfortune of having him on my team multiple times. Never won a single game with him on the team.

I've also had the fortune of playing against him multiple times. Never lost a single game against him cause his team is so tilted.

Just disregard and move on

10/10 got my civil wedding tomorrow, picking up rings today, had an amazing bachelor party last weekend

top class cringe

Valorant and giving skins away for free?

You're joking mate

I once found out one of the Global Leads of my practice in my previous job used to play CS 1.6 back in the day. The dude is mid-to-late 50s. Kinda guy that makes 5-10 millies a year

Got him to install CSGO (this is a few years back) and played a couple games. Actually super chill

Won't get you a promote or pay increase though

classic bronzilians

Sen flair detected, opinion rejected

VLR braindead takes as usual.

Fnatic consistently one of the top teams in the last 3 years. Why would you swap out an IGL that is 1. proven he can do it and 2. is hugely popular

Only idiots say lockin was not a masters. It was a big international tourney with all the big names present. Just had a different title doesn't make it less important

completely different squads, doesn't even hold up at all. Fnatic has had the same core forever

Worst attitude and worst mental for sure - rest of it I'm not sure I can agree with

alfa plays initiator too

0/8