what is this, not even fun anymore, no fucking way they are this bad, I refuse to believe they cant beat second SEA seed wtf

just bet against NA, they always get overhyped and its free money more than 50% of the time

nivera cant op, lmao that was funny

bro what are you saying, as a team they looked pretty bad compared to other EMEA teams but individually there is no doubts they are all insane

I dont agree, imo the premise of international events is have the best teams of the world, if 90% of top teams were from Europe like in CSGO, thats just how it is, you can give minor regions representation while not underrepresenting EMEA like this, if Japan has 1 slot, why not also MENA? Doesnt Arabia and North African teams deserve a slot too if Japan is there?

Thats a good point from you but I still think you could have representation from minor regions to profit from them but have more representation from strongest regions so the gameplay is not this bad

they do, yours is a stupid argument, they are good to be here, all EMEA playoffs teams deserve to be here, any would shit on minor region teams

yes, I watch for quality of gameplay and I strive for sporting excelence, if the best teams are from outiside EMEA I would still watch, we are not the same, you watch your national teams/favourites teams so you are a casual viewer, I watch because I love the competitive aspect of the game and want to watch the best teams idc where they are from

shit gameplay and no competitiveness is not good for longevity either

hosting esports events is a net loss always, all TOs lose money in tournaments + lets not act like they need to profit from these events, they make insane amounts of money from skins already

he didnt say he wants to watch only EMEA teams, there are top teams that are not from EMEA but giving Japan a slot is a joke, its a gamble tho, maybe they are good in 2-3 years, the game is popular so maybe some japanese wonderkids come up

gambit were 0.02 seconds away from making it, they deserved to be here, if these dogshit teams are here so should gambit, they would be tournament favourites

they dont care about competition, they just want to secure the viewership from different parts of the world not have the best quality gameplay and best teams in the world in the event, so sad, its almost like these events are a show for them having them once every 3 years and most teams are not even good

the fact that riot thinks having people like mitchman on international events should be the standard is ridiculous

no

also why are we as a community giving importance to a top player list made by such a clueless guy? it should be like cs where people who actually know about the game get this attention, not platchat, great podcast but their opinions should just be taken as funny at best

this list is terrible man wtf, didnt expect more from the guy that said derke was the worst jett in his group tho, no wonder this motherfucker cant get out of diamond he is retarded

ye or something like that, its always fun seeing NA streamers watchparties reactions after that

please trash on NA after liquid beat optic in upper finals of group b like you did in champions

no way that group b prediction happens lmao

why would you, they never played the game properly nor had the best firepower so you would expect them to fall off when every1 gets better at the game and start punishing them

no1 who has high level understanding of the game did I believe, every1 expected NA and EU to dominate, the only other region that was somewhat decent was Korea, my eyes were bleeding when I watched Brazil/SEA/Japan and KRU for the first time

As far as I remember they have never been correct, always bad takes, they actually thought Vikings were going to be one of the best in Iceland + They thought Sentinels were going to be good in Masters 3 + Derke top21 player

ye I agree but at least they are fun to watch

they actually have some underrated players, acend 2.0?

saya and yay above derke LOL

terrible take

apac lol

surely fans from other countries travel to watch the event

you must be joking, also deepmans plays in a much easier league, last year when both played similar level of valorant they had similar stats/h1ber even better, deepmans didnt play much jett last year tho, so all his jett stats is in a weak regional league, also stats isnt everything, if you have actually watching all this jetts you mentioned play, fitinho is clear of janny and xuss even if he has performed pretty meh for the player he is recently but either way h1ber and deepmans are very evenly matched, both could be star duelists in top emea teams, also how is your argument stats when they have 9 acs difference and h1ber is playing harder opposition? how does it make sense?

you dont need that much experience if you are a duelist + most of the teams at masters are even worse than emea tier2 teams so experience shouldnt affect him since he is already used to playing against strong teams tactically who will make the job hard for duelists, maybe he even destroys them honestly

h1ber is amazing player, he has been tier1 material duelist for a long time, hopefully liquid pick him up or something if things dont go well for them so that would solve their duelist problem

that would not make sense in terms of roles, fnatic already has 3 core players and its fairly easy to implement a duelist who plays the same roles as derke (althought derke will most likely make it to iceland according to him) + fea is a smart player and probably can adapt easily to brave roles, we already see this in csgo, when teams play with stand-ins they even tend to overperform specially is said stand-in has insane firepower, I expect them to at make it out of groups even if they play with 2 subs, maybe not first seed with 2 subs but for sure 1 seed with derke

fea is very smart player, he is alliance igl + really good sova player with good firepower, he is more or less on part with brave imo and h1ber is basically one of the best talents in eu, fnatic wanted to get him to replace doma because he is also good with sova but he wanted to play duelist so he joined koi, just at his stats, that tells you everything about him, he is an animal

h1ber nothing special, lmao

stax best aimer in the vct, lmao you made me laugh

dont care, they are just gonna stomp the others like they always do lmao

what elo? gold? kekw

what does it have to do with education? cant accept reality? apac are dogs

if they had ex6tenz, nip eu are clear, they were really good

go watch some top emea matches back and then watch paper rex, not even better than Brazil

they are not even good lmao

https://imgur.com/a/oLUTzAI many are not taking lan experience + making the tierlist based on what they think their actual form is but not how it will be by the time the tournament starts

8/8 good bait

for sure they have a chance but they are putting the pressure to perform on them, FPX probably did so well because obviously they have insane players and no pressure (still did way too well XD, i dont fucking know how they destroyed every1 like that in seeding matches), EMEA have nothing to lose atm, they have a million excuses, there is war literally happening atm so I would still have them as favourites

Maybe but putting them as big favourites is overreacting, I would still bet in any of the 3 EMEA teams before NA

lmao no

wtf, I just said vlr people is underrating EMEA teams and putting the guard/optic as the favourites, they are just giving NA too much hope and they might be dissapointed if its not the case

nip not making it m8, absolutely no way they beat leviatan

Cmon guys its not like EMEA teams are dogshit, Derke will most likely make it to iceland + Fearoth is an upgrade to brave imo, G2 really good, TL really good if they dont troll comps, you are giving NA fans hope, you should be ashamed