of ruining NRG

shitc0r lmao

lol stfu buddy

honestly i kinda fw with this, Frost has made talon very solid

but I'd still like to keep alecks as head coach and Frost is assistant, I think alecks understands the #WGAMING playstyle a lot better. (prx have absolutely shit on talon)

agreed. Outside of getting shit on by PRX, they have looked pretty good.

What currency? This doesn't look like USD.

oh cool, optic lost a game that meant absolutely nothing.

we've gone over this like a bazillion times

DLSS is meant for demanding PC games, not eSports titles. I have no idea why you suddenly started talking about eSports because most people use DLSS for visually demanding games.

We are talking about using it for the OP. The OP has only mentioned that they are playing valorant. Not sure why you care about visually demanding games if the OP is never going to play said games.

Do you... see nothing wrong with the fact that both gt710 and 2070 super are considered entry level according to your rules? Also you do realize that there is a huge gap between budget and mid-range?

Where is this coming from? What? Then what are you classifying those cards?

Also, where is the difference in performance? You're going from a 6700XT to a 7700XT, and you can barely squeeze in a 7800XT. But I'd classify a 7800XT as mid range(personally, as it can play 1440p perfectly fine.). So you're getting an extra ~25FPS by going up a tier at 1080. Perfectly reasonable.

https://tpucdn.com/review/sapphire-radeon-rx-7900-gre-pulse/images/average-fps-1920-1080.png

https://www.techspot.com/articles-info/2812/bench/1080p-p.webp

I looked up all the recent videos suggesting "budget GPU for 2024" and not a single one of them has 4060 in it.

Because the 4060 sucks. It has one use case: Playing only at 1080p and you need Nvidia. In any other scenario, either AMD or the 3060 12GB is better. No one would suggest the 4060 when you can find the 6700XT(12GB of VRAM, much better performance) for only $15 more.

You guys just came here and chose to say something that is absolutely not true, not from the perspective of anyone. We get it man, anything below a special collab edition 4090 with the price of 4 jizzilion dollars is budget to you guys. If you still want to vehemently argue against this fact then go ahead man.

LOL. What's your definition of budget? A $300 system? I've already given you a list with the 4060 that was less than $650. I'd classify a budget system as a <$700 system. Do you have any proof that anyone else doesn't classify the 4060 as budget? Here are multiple videos where the 4060 is called a budget card:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0kDJ7cUQb5o

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cUZEQbFKBrw

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Td0mVTBl51Y

Lower power consumption often translates to less heat generation, quieter operation, and potentially longer hardware lifespan

All of which mean basically nothing. The only one I think is even arguable is quieter operation, but that depends on the model. Here's two MSI models. Difference in noise is like 3dBA

https://tpucdn.com/review/msi-radeon-rx-6700-xt-gaming-x/images/fannoise_load.png

https://tpucdn.com/review/msi-geforce-rtx-4060-gaming-x/images/fan-noise.png

These factors contribute to the overall user experience

Yes, because I care that the GPU outputs 3dBA less.

NVIDIA is really good value because their consistent driver updates and broader software ecosystem provide added value for users who engage in both gaming and productivity tasks. And if this wasn't enough, then there's the upscaling, the raytracing, the CUDA and Tensor cores, the power efficiency.

This is all true. Yet, AMD provides better performance on average, costs less, and has an actual competitor to DLSS(finally).

And on top of that, the resell value on NVIDIA is mind boggling. NVIDIA cards are so future-proof that people are still asking whether they should upgrade from their 1080ti/2070 super.

Just like people asking if they should move on from their 5700XT.

I sleep like a baby knowing I can sell my 4070 Super for 90% of it's price.

LMAO not a chance. You can't find any GPU that sold for 90% of it's price that was used.

Unless AMD can do something other than slap more VRAM onto their shit, they will never outperform and outvalue NVIDIA.

AMD has much better price to performance for raster.

I'll wait for the day when AMD can promise me good performance without requiring a fish tank case with cooling that can freeze the river thames.

Since when did AMD require a lot of cooling? Have you even seen the 7000 series GPUs yet?

If you're going to undervolt it, it may be okay...

I just grabbed a CPU that I knew would break your recommended wattage.

But even with a 12600K, you're still pulling 150W at max draw, plus say 450W(I've never undervolted before, not sure what kind of power you'll be drawing) with a 6950XT undervolt = 600W + your other parts...

It might be fine but is still on the riskier side.

You also lose a bit of performance by undervolting.

VRAM point is true, but only matters if the OP will play these games.

OP has only mentioned valorant.

Edit: okay, fair point about electricity. I was thinking you meant for normal usage and scenarios, where it doesn't matter.

So 6700XT, which the the card that is being suggested to OP, is not high end?

No. Not at all. A high end card would be a 7900Xt/4070 Ti Super.

Though in this context, I'd say 6800+. But even that is still not that bad to cool, it's just hard to power.

Okay? NVIDIA is still overall better for editing

When are we talking about editing? You just said, "if you're not just doing gaming Nvidia is better."

It is night and day difference. FSR was hyped for 2 months until it went from "AMD just set new standards!!

I'm talking about FSR 3.1.

some niche titles" are those so important that you needed to make a separate point for them?

Yes, if the OP is playing said games. It's at least a point worth mentioning.

you think of cards like 2080, 1660ti, gt710, 5600g integrated builds?

Still budget. Only classifications I use are budget, mid, and high. Though I'd call the 5600G an integrated graphics system.

Tell that to the average consumer that is going to buy a prebuilt with a 1660ti

Which is why I'd suggest building it yourself. Prebuilts are pretty trash for the most part.

If you want advice from people who actually know what they're doing, go to PCPartPicker. People, including myself, are very active in the forums.

(if you're curious, my user on PCPP is doomvorwastaken)

DLSS is Nvidia's frame Gen technology

It honestly comes down to how much electricity costs in your country.

Means absolutely nothing. At most, you'll save like a dollar.

6950xt (Their hottest card even considering current Gen) on an 850w PSU and everything below with a 750w.

You cannot run a 6950XT with an 850W PSU unless you're using a very weak CPU and/or extremly high end unit. A 6950XT can spike up 550W+.

https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQ4E4FBk-Jyt2GQq1l-mfUohiMme1Cmdj-DXA&s

Also, you're not factoring in the CPU at all. i9-13900K can pull 340W under full load.

https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRwOUXpLa896SGoUG6UgKOs3pWqdpmdoRfDow&s

Those two alone = 890W, greater than your 850W unit.

Also, the 3070 is heavily choked by VRAM

VRAM only matters in some games. In others, like Valorant, it literally doesn't matter at all.

No. Just no.

But the point is that with how optimized the 40 series cards are, you don't need a fully decked out cooling system to make sure the system doesn't overheat. You can run a 4070 with just a single air cooler and stock fans on a m-atx case. Can't say the same for an AMD card.

Not at all. Many AMD cards are fine under the same settings. The only times you would need more is if you're using high end 6000 series GPUs.

Assuming he won't only be using his PC for gaming, NVIDIA is the better option.

Depends. A few things are better with AMD.

I know that AMD has evolved from its days of lazy updates but they still haven't caught up to NVIDIA.

Eh. FSR 3.1 is an actually decent competitor to DLSS. DLSS is better, yes, but it's not a night and day difference and FSR is fine for most people.

adds DLSS support for a shit ton of games.

FMF is not limited to any games. It works for everything. While DLSS does have support for a lot of games, some niche titles may fall through the cracks.

it's a budget build and I assure you, neither 4060 or 4070 is considered budget.

A 4060 is absolutely considerd budget. Even if you want to argue it isn't, it's still low end. You can get a PC with a 4060 for <$650.

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/WqgpTY

Because the 4090 and GPU market in general sucks at AAA titles. In new UE5 games, the 4090 can't even do 4K60. It's questionable wether it's better to buy a mid tier GPU every few years than a high end GPU once a decade.

Depends.

4060 is faster at 1080p for a little bit more.

3060 12GB is a bit slower, but comes with more VRAM and is cheaper. However, it's not fast enough to take full advantage of it's VRAM.

What resolution, refresh rate, and games are you targeting?

RM850x is trash for the price.

(I'm a PC nerd don't judge)

6750XT is just an overclocked 6700XT with worse power spikes. You'd need a capable PSU to handle it, making the cost higher than it seems.

masochist is pain

i think it's just called a humiliation kink

:(

but it's true....

when swvyboi tries to take advantage of a situation:

legend for that

that was in spite of ange1, not because

take a quick nap for 10-15 min in an hour, nothing enough to make you truly fall asleep.

should be enough to keep you awake till afterward

then go to sleep

also weird trick but i found it works for me

sleep with your legs up on the couch while you're on the floor(during your nap)

what time exactly?

ty :)

YOU GOT THIS NRG WE BELIEVE IN YOU <3

also FNS IS THE GOAT

you came back just to shit on NRG

don't you have anything better to do?

depends on other teams

I think people prefer demon1 because of the aim and popoff potential. No one on NRG right now strikes me as someone who can takeover a map and single handedly win them rounds and whatnot, outside of maybe ethan.

this is an actually good take by a NRG fan

good job!

good luck in the future <3

stop this is why people hate us

Why do people keep underrating G2?

G2 2-1 SEN imo, I think G2 could actually win champs

i respect the cope ngl (i use it way too much as a PRX fan)

but even if they win those games it's still unlikely they make playoffs, they need outside help

actually W take

platoon is another

talon - prx
fnc - loud

need some emojis

PRX vs DRX Pacific League 2023

Reverse Sweep

https://www.vlr.gg/184522/paper-rex-vs-drx-champions-tour-2023-pacific-league-playoffs-gf

thank god get rid of this snake

ty goat <3

wdym doomed

NRG is saved they finally got rid of that snake

it's a joke....

The true answer:

Every region is a one team region :)

Americas: 100T
EMEA: TH
APAC: Gen.G
CN: FPX(kinda)

FUCK YEA-

i mean oh... oh no... we miss you...

lmao

it's a canada flag don't expect much

So.... What happened?

n0vi lmao bro really thought

11-13 is fine, but losing 13-5 is just embarrasing

and watch, now he's going to go on about how n0vi is the third best team "ITW"

y0y

we throw something on iso and say

"illya go kill" :)

(tho tbf that's kind of the gameplan anyways)

Tons of ults are capped at zero kills.

kj ult, harbor ult, viper ult, omen ult, etc.. all don't kill anyone.

It's the "don't die from a headshot" part that's the most annoying thing about iso. No other agent is like him in that way.

with the shield ult isn't ass at all. you get a free uninterupted 1v1 but you don't die from a headshot

iso is broken as fuck