Meteor is an interesting player to compare with f0rsakeN because although he's not as flexible as him, he is infinitely more of a clutch player who will more often than not win you the rounds you need to win. he's not really gonna be the guy dropping 100+ kills in a bo5 but he will usually be the guy winning the swing rounds or making the crazy plays that lead to a series win. high risk high reward player.

you are actually just clearly biased to the point where you're not capable of maintaining rational thought. good luck man

apparently something, Jinggg, MaKo, Meteor, t3xture did not have better years than f0rsakeN. f0rsakeN was apparently still the best player in the region while Jinggg and something were firing PRX to Champs GF, and when Meteor/t3xture were making 5/6 possible grand finals and winning trophies before PRX.

you can say he was a top 5, top 3 player every year, but he was not THE best player since 2022. that's ridiculous and completely tears down the accomplishments of other talented Pacific players.

it's the orgs job for sure to protect the players here, right? I hope Riot is stipulating this. I'm not a SEN fan but I really like how they treat their players. hopefully all orgs provide financial assistance to their players, but ngl, in Pacific I'm doubtful that each org really has the financial wellbeing of their players at heart.

champs 2024 where prx got grouped just like geng? where f0rsakeN went negative literally every series? meanwhile Meteor went +28 against Heretics? that champs 2024? the same 2024, where, for the first time, PRX did not make top 2 in the region for Stage 2?

and what about when something and Jinggg were the star players of PRX 2023?

this overglazing is so annoying, give him credit where he's due. he's probably the best flex of all time, the best player in Pacific right now, the best player in Pacific in 2025, but he was not the consistent best player in Pacific since 2022.

he was fucking feeling it dude put him on duelist or senti again and he's breaking it

101 KILLS IN 4 MAPS THIS GUY IS THE GREATEST

sure but he was not the best player in pacific in 2022/2023/2024 there is no question about it. regardless of his flexibility he was simply not performing to the level or winning the trophies of those i mentioned above

MY GLORIOUS KING

MaKo was better in 2022, Something/Jinggg was better in 2023, Meteor was better in 2024, but in 2025 no doubt he was the best player in Pacific

credit where it's due but the overglazing has to stop, from one fan to another

jessievash exists

That's super interesting to know that the NA tier 2 CS guys had people that financially literate around them. Wonder how that happened.

and yeah good on them for being wise with their money, they should know better than other people that eSports is fleeting and you don't always get to stay making a bag year after year

what are you even saying man lmfao but all good #20 answered my question

yeah that's why my original question was asking whether tier 2 CS paid that well. no way he was getting enough to afford a 5 bedroom house before CS got big on gambling and saudi. so i guess either my timeline is wrong or he was already able to draw from a large source of money.

sponsorships, streaming money, champs bundle money, masters winner money, americas regional win prize money

(fns never won a regional btw LMAO)

aka income that mostly came AFTER he purchased the house

NA valorant probably paid a lot post franchising but I'm not sure if OpTic/NV were big money droppers. NRG for sure gave him a bag but from what I remember the purchase of this house predated NRG. I might be wrong on this though

no doubt he is loaded now. he got the house prior to blowing up as a streamer

that's now. he said he got the house years ago. i don't remember the exact number but i remember wondering whether CS paid that well as it must have been either during the early stages of Valorant or late-stage NACS

You really have no idea how much money Valorant pros make

i think i have a fair idea given i know how much a prominent tier 1 org's players and staff were making post franchising
but a 5 bedroom house is still a LOT of money.

nrg was in 2024/2025 no? that’s too late for his house surely

did tier 2 CS pay THAT well? he mentioned he got it a few years ago or something i think

critical lack of meteor in these lists

doomposting is aways so cringe, shit just means koreans get flamed when they didnt even say anything

but sea is actually good, be proud

what agenda bro lol

he probably just wanted to leave bro

sounds more like your worst nightmare

T1 vs PRX

source: came to me in a dream

you're meant to fall apart after you qualify bruh

when you plant you're obviously planting with an afterplant strategy in mind. the strategy was probably to play for suck/molly lineup that round. what do u think is more probable? kushy deciding to plant in a bad position that happened to have a molly lineup or the team deciding they would play for postplant this way?

last round, kushy planted where they couldnt spam the defuser
it's not really his fault as xffero has a molly lineup that he didnt use

liquid have trialed apac players in the past

prx will win, i thought rrq were good but b2b2b bo5s and also being exposed this hard while prx are looking better with each game makes me fairly confident in them

did you forget stage 1 when rrq won and stage 2 when the top 3 were all SEA

DFM decided to empty their skulls while playing T1 and RRQ couldn't adapt in time

"KR one team region" "KR outside of VS/DRX is shit"

what is with the doomposting bro this can easily switch in a few months

t1 look way better than a few days ago

ts so corny bro

this can literally change in stage 1. anyway pacific is so stacked the best teams always fluctuate. who knows, maybe prx is winning santiago.

this is just doomposting and when KR teams place lower in stage 1 or 2 we’ll see a wave of posts talking about how KR is overrated or whatever

izu best flex
also izu: literally yoru/maybe omen only the entire event

buzz is more explosive than t3xture but not as consistent. stax is a liability. the rest are good.

i wish 2024 geng had xuna instead of lakia

monyet and xffero are the first on the chopping block imo

crazyguy’s igling is fine, Kushy has been okay (but who is able to replace him?), Jemkin is thanos

monyet has been playing more bad than good i feel, honestly xffero is not bad either but I’m not sure they can’t find someone better than him

stax, buzz, and consistent is frying me

9 3 and 10 2

true

only downside of indomie is one packet is not enough but two is too much 😭😭😭

that is an unbelievable stat when you think about it
4 years straight 2022 2023 2024 2025

jesus christ he is him and he's doing it against pcific too

111 by kk

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it's their first time at an international for literally everyone on the team except Rb, and in Xross's case his first year in tier 1. i'm just hoping they play the same way they did at Kickoff

this looks similar to the VCT EA/VCT SEA propositions i've seen drawn up over the past like 4 years but i don't get it because there's no justification yet for the formation of two different leagues.

splitting up the viewership is not healthy to maintain two different venues and production crews and staff.
moreover as we've seen from Ascension there is simply not enough talent yet to sustain two different leagues. let's be real, BME are the only real contenders from SEA tier 2 and KR doesn't have enough good teams to justify a 9 team league. moreover, having all the teams face each other promotes strength. prx would never have picked up patmen for mindfreak and won toronto if they kept farming their domestic leagues. rrq would never have gotten so good if they hadn't had to grind against prx/geng for like 2 years.

also this rhetoric just gets parroted by doomers who prioritise their own regional biases over people who only care about having the best representatives. face it man, this current format produces the strongest teams.