Part of the reason thats the case is that the culture of esports isnt about development bc orgs have no money, not bc players can never bounce back. I agree that they need to look at everything objectively... and my point abt that is that if I'm ge, id rather at least have a pretty sure slot in playoffs and then maybe make a run then trust the scouting to pull off a miracle

Didnt forget... That was the first year of franchising where there wasnt an established t2. Texture was 100% a known quantity. Monyet was also fighting for international slots on onic g. Possibly that's good scouting, but the way it seems you are defining tier 1, there were only like 20-30 t1 players in apac before that season... that leaves a much larger pool to be CONSIDERED t2. So if they were t2 talent then, it's only by technicality

Make an actual counter argument then smdh

Xccurate started calling and his performance dipped. Im not willing to write off saya from one bad season. Esports fans and 1 year memory istg

Only the right mix... t2 talent still fails more than it succeeds. Adding t2 talent to existing rosters is much more successful

Would be a good point if ge was actually good at recruiting... they just need a year where they're actually in the mix

Edit: also i would 100% agree in cases like the brazilian scene... but those are cases where the incumbent players have not actually had any real success.

Krystal is a great pick up but...
Saya, xccurate, sscary...
That's a very solid four.
Maybe beyn to round it out

Edit:
A lot of you are saying saya and xccurate are washed as if T1 weren't top half of apac last year with no carries. GE just need a decent season so they arent absolute dogshit for 3 years.
Xcurrate has played valorant for ONE year lmao he definitionally cannot be washed. He's old, yes, but you cant say washed after someone switches games.

Many of you are also saying t2 talent is the way to go... normally I'd agree if you are adding the talent to an established and accomplished roster, but cobbled together t2 teams rely heavily on the players being absolutely cracked like woot or riens etc... and that depends largely on the talent pool you are drawing from

If GE make a single event this year with this roster, feel free to come back and call me stupid. Just rmbr it makes you the idiot if they have another bottom feeder season

Rinsed them

I think the point is that those arent actually ur bottom feeders. Think the remark was about furia and mibr never scouting proper tier 2 talent from brazil when there clearly is... 2g obvi and glrs looked pretty decent too

Everyone clowning on net and bcj

But nismo had a shocker... even from beach jail

Bro koala is good but he misses soooo many op shots. I dont think he's allat at opping. Agree with nismo breach jail and comp choices tho

Sadly, you may be right. Very hard to beat a team twice in a tourney, and they've already beat everyone....

Wym

Yall are all wrong. None of these players are quite tier 1 ready. Quality of play was so low this tourney. They didnt belong

Most 2 man advantages thrown in a win game, no?

Seven literally the only one making good decisions atm

Whelp

Scripted FR

It'll be weirdly the same course as shanghai.

TH lose in the upper semis to an americas team, only to knock out the last two americas teams in 4th and 3rd before losing to a region that's never won before in the grand finals.

Nah c still worse

9-30

Nah

Allat

Huh?

He hadn't had a tier one opportunity until then. Proved himself the first chance he had and now he's repeating the impact

Yeah, obviously thats the tiebreaker in the seeding... but maybe vlr has the wrong leaderboard for points, and, if not, then why have different criteria for seeding and for points?

Thanks the question I'm asking. Not asking what it's based on

Why have two different metrics for seeding and for circuit points tho... that makes very little sense

When you look at the regular split 1 page and the circuit points standings QoR is ahead of OXG which tracks since they won H2H in the split... but for the seeding in the mid season cup, OXG got the better seed, which is more official than vlr scores...

Anyone have the scoop?

Oh shit just happened lol. Both aspas and valyn in the same game is crazy... guess it was a lot of round

When did aspas and zekken get their 101s?

Both

Also oxg and maybe mxs have a better shot than hero base in current form

Kpi and mouz are looking sick

Where in challengers?

Apac looks so bad rn

Id say 100T but they already have too many confidence struggles

Where should he go? Who needs a high comms senti+viper midrounder?

He's literally the "A" part from EMEA... but he has lived and played in NA long enough, he's NA no matter what he says. His whole career developed in NA

Script is a meme bro, relax. Patterns are everywhere if you look hard enough

Hear me out. Start out as a team with some ranked rookie (aspas and karon) mixed with vets with varying degrees of success on past rosters, but all looked good individually at one point or another. Assembled the same year... gets to the finals through the upper bracket of the first major and chokes to a more solid NA team.

GenG are winning champs. It's in the script

"Steal"... reading is hard, I know

I know... I think you missed the implication. All good

At first I thought round 2 matchups were based on map/round count, but then I saw the 0-1 matchups...

All imma say is OF COURSE sen has to play both emea teams right off rip smh

Ya time to steal back rb

Watched the whole game and some of their kickoff run...
It's been shown time and time again that when teams have a player that's going VERY negative like this, an upgrade in firepower is often what takes teams over the top. If he's going -9 or even like -15 over a series, that's one thing and you can make up for that with intangibles, but when it's like this, they're gonna be capped when they play teams who also shoot hard and are playing comps that aren't shit

-26 and they still win. Drop that number to single digits and they win the event

They have to be the favorite to come out of apac ascension, no?

Yeah I'm def talking about the future. See how far the hot streak takes them. But my theory here is that they won't get far if lakia is -7 every single map

You need to look at the stats again + munchkin is the igl, not lakia

Zest in for lakia.
They just won... but with lakia going -10 every single series. Unless he's bringing some insane comms or something, this is a straight upgrade and might make them consistently at the top. Not saying this was a fluke, but drx will definitely improve and prx was arguably not giving their best in the final