I think they'll make it out of groups again, obviously, but they have to play against 2 major region teams yet again. I think the obvious optimal groups would be 1 EMEA team for each group and then divide the 3 NA + VS evenly again.

Plat chat suggested him back when he played for imt. They needed a young igl with new ideas and to adapt to the meta. Rossy wqs the example they came up with. I still think that reasoning applies a bit

That was bad, and this is worse imo

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Ye somewhat

I know why it happened. Im aware that it was random. The "why" is somewhat rhetorical... :)

Same reason. It wasn't a good idea either time. I think this is worse, tho...

Why, riot?!

Anyone know what the tiebreaker will be between these teams in terms of VCT points? They have the same amount for the number 2 slot going to champions

Yeah i read it was bc of the challengers finals... which is fucking dumb. They base that shit off a seeding game?

The popular word is that he'll go to TSM, but since FaZe might drop rawkus, sinatraa might be on the docket. What do you guys think?

...yes...?

Yeah it definitely has to do with that but that's obviously a horrible way to do rankings. If u qual into events with teams better than u, it's still better than not qualling then beating up on tier 2

Fair enough. No harm done. Cheers mate

Anyone else see what I mean? LG has been pretty consistently qualifying for big events and are only losing to top teams and yet are ranked below NRG, IMT, etc... where as, for instance, C9 is top 5 despite not qualifying or even coming close. The disrespect is upsetting

And now C9 is ahead of xset (somehow)

Fair point about lcq actually. Agreed

I don't think he got too much of a chance tbh and he looked fine in the matches he did play so ima haffa disagree

Should ABX pick up Poiz if C9 refuses to play him?

Maybe even floppy too tbh, tho there might be better options like mummay if they can get him

Sorta agree

Ok yeah ban maybe not choice # one. Check my original edit

I only said its not an issue bc i already addressed it in another reply. No need to be toxic by suggesting idk how crucial it is

Im not underrating igl in general. I understand it's importance for sure. They are a tough commodity to come by... but with that being said it's not like pho is a proven igl. He's only been igl for less than a month... so let's not talk about him like he's tenured on this team at all. Temperature and branted are both capable of taking up igl. Whether they want to or not is certainly a potential issue. I believe rn potter is still essentially in charge of strats... igl is just carrying out her plan... sorta like when gMd was igl for geng

Aim, yes, but pro play requires some agent comp flexibility. EG will be just a shitty LG as long as they live and die by the reyna

Yeah roca would be fine if he played more than reyna but he's been on reyna only for over a year... so i doubt it

Possibly. Still from a weak region, which was the main point

I think aleksander is better than thief tbh... i think mummay might be a good choice, but the only duelist he plays is jett, and u just saw boostio on jett. Governor i dont think is actually that good in pro play.

Igl isnt an issue. Pho has only been igl since potter stepped down

You act like they didnt just switch igls when potter moved to coaching lol. Pho started as igl, what? A week ago? Temperature and branted are both capable of igling. Plus it's still just carrying out potter's vision at this point.

Ban plays sage too and roles are constantly changed

Also lg will likely drop ban

Yeah... that was when they were still trying to make a mixed roster work. Sometimes players rejoin orgs. Weirder things have happened. Maybe sign drone instead... im not sure. The idea is really that pho is questionable and why theyd want a reyna-only player on an org like eg beats me

Squitle Squad isn't an org and aleksander isn't signed with abx as far as we know. Obviously I'm talking about after this tournament

EG should swap pho and roca for ban and aleksander

What do u guys think?

Edit: the point is less about who they should replace those two with, but rather that they should replace pho bc he's underwhelming in general and roca bc refusal to play anything but reyna is just terrible for comp flexibility and just low key toxic

Edit 2: a lot of people pointing out that:
1) pho is igl
2) aleksander left the team a month or so ago

1) pho is only igl since potter left. He's not exactly proven and just like when potter left, someone can take up that role. They may not be the best fit but we dont know if pho is or not either. Rn they are prolly just carrying out potter's plan anyway
2) it would not be the first time a player has returned to a team they previously left. T1 brax and guild draken are recent examples. Plus, it may have had something to do with having tried to make a mixed roster work. Now that theyve given up on that, maybe itd work. Just a possibility

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I just thought this was funny. The only consistencies are the teams from (arguably) two of the least competitive regions and the one team that won it all.