i heard they’re trialing newzera?

nah i feel like vitality is either gonna work and shit on fnc or they wont and fnc is gonna piss on them

delusional prx fan thinking he can justify the lack of any success across 3 years by shitting on other teams

wdym theyre retarded they’re evidently still trying to sign them again

new emea teams are so nuts theres a 50% chance the top 3 will be entirely different and the other 50% is gonna be a fnatic heretics 2 team region for another season

m8 are qualifying for foodstamps after this season

or asuna

i aint doing shit my guy

im sorry but the kids are dying somewhere so you cant be concerned about this is probably the worst point ever

you are setting yourself up for disappointment my guy

your goats couldnt pick up more than a handful of rounds in two long years

it took you like half a month to come up with these? come on man

vct fans will always think any team that doesn’t win is mid while ignoring that teams like heretics and lev outperformed like 37 other teams this mental illness will never be fixed

fokus esports total earnings 3 shekles

i respect ur decision not to be misogynistic

Im repping G2 gozen the goats

you also got rolled by a bunch of kids playing their first vct season pipe down

I also doubt apeks will be too bad. Kaajak is great but duelist is not difficult to fill rn. Famsii, Xeus, Click… theres a ton of solid choices

Yeahhh but fnatic 2023 is very very different from vitality. They filled every role with the best in slo, while having a proven IGL and coach.

Vitality has none of that structure.

good morning

geng also replaced 4/5 players my guy

Coach is faded. His IGL ability is gonna be a gamble for sure, but he clearly does have game IQ.

Oh I agree that this roster is a much different caliber. I just think lots of people were really excited for NRG last year and are more sceptical now.

Vitality this upcoming season is already guaranteed to be a big gamble and I think loads of people are worried about Sayf taking over IGLing and Cender being removed.
I think that could potentially be a pretty good decision though. Sayf is a pretty vocal and assertive guy that everyone knows is good at the game. Its likely that someone like Less would rather listen to what Sayf has to say then Cenders calls, who is mostly unproven. Additionally, if you’re already gambling you might as well go all in.

Regardless of what happens itll be fun to watch for sure lol

I think people are worried that the team will collapse if nobody is there that can keep them together, especially with NRG fresh in everyones memory.

On the other hand I doubt vitality picked faded up right away without a good reason and if this team clicks they’ll be insane.

icl navi probably saw all the other teams for next season and gave up on building a decent roster

yes. this is it. They were running out of options.

Yeah could be a reason. Maybe hes good at mediating or very assertive. Or maybe all the players just like him and he linked them together.

how can we blame this on cojo

I know that, but there is plenty of other options and it seemed like they were really set on just going for faded after that fell through.

yes. this is it. They were running out of options.

doing his best goked impression

Its a big ? for me that they basically immediately went for him, maybe they saw something in him or he clicked with the players, idk

I honestly think vitality knew derke didnt want to join any other team and since they were the only option on the table they tried lowballing a bit because fnc wouldnt want to pay derkes salary all year

i understand why people here think boaster is terrible mechanically and all that but its really curious to me that some started disliking him so much because of this that in their own headcanon he is the one who personally kicked out derke

i wont him so bad

colin jonson on alt

wolverhampton aspas

Make random T2 team sign Derke, then make that team your affiliate and move Derke to vitality main roster

What if they’re theoretically interested in buying and trading with fnatic? lolz

Have you watched VCT? Do you know that plenty of regionals have the prize of qualification for internationals across multiple placements? Similar to how ascension can result in multiple placements having qualification to vct as a prize? Do you believe champs should only have one team per region playing, since it would be unfair to hand out qualifications to losers.

The slot is meant for the best T2 teams of their respective region. With SPG ascending to T1, Boom is the best T2 team in apac. They did not just hand it over, they handed it over to the team that was second in apac ascension. Any other team could have been second in apac ascension. Any other team had their shot at beating Boom and they missed it, why would they deserve another chance?

I really hope you realize how non-sensical your argument is and just dont want to admit it. Because this a concerning level of stupidity.

10 dolar

"Esports is about winning these tournaments annd winning prizes and just handing away one of those prizes to a team that didn’t win just doesn’t feel right."

I hate to tell you this but there is plenty of tournaments where not only the first place has winnings? Bleeds disqualification only meant that the prize now goes to first and second in ascension, as the first and second best teams are the oines supposed to be ascending... Boom proved that they are better than every team besides SPG at ascension.

Your argument that other teams got close to beating SPG is pointless, because SPG qualified from upper bracket. Boom beat DSG, Boom beat Riddle, Boom beat Full Sense...
They only ever lost to SPG, and the only teams they did not beat were teams that were pretty much immediately eliminated. You cant make any argument for another team potentially being better than Boom when they beat all of those other teams. If you run another tournament now you have a bunch of unprepared and incomplete Teams scrambling to win that will tell you nothing about the teams actual potential.

Ascension rules were updated.

They both have one year guaranteed only

Doy you think oct 7th is actually gonna be as crazy as lots of people assume? I fear we will see a handful of announcements at best tbh

The 7th isnt gonna be a deadline for rosters. It simply the first date on which teams are allowed to actually hand out contracts. Loads of teams wont have their full roster together until much later.

Yeah its a bit of an odd one. In a way it makes the most sense as they clearly arent set on a roster yet and are one of the few orgs that actually do have the finances to sign someone like aspas. Aditionally they have on open international spot and should be an english speaking roster. But from last years and this years rumored moves it also seems like they just kind of accepted that they wont be a title competitor in VCT. Perhaps they will reconsider if an opportunity like this arises.

The reason why Im wondering about how "locked" some of the agreements are is that teams like NAVI or FNC would technically be able to fit Aspas if they are willing to/able to kind of "undo" the agreements with the players they were looking at.

This would only make sense if the scandal was about Bleed cheating to win Ascension. Scarz was not impacted because Bleed beat them and met the requirements last season. They were beaten by Bleed just as fair and square as boom was beaten by spg. It only makes sense to ascend the current 2 best tier 2 orgs.