Not even the best duelist on Fnatic unfortunately

There's currently 4 duelists that stand out from the rest, much like the 4 kings era in boxing

Aspas - "The Final Boss"
Zekken - "Superboy"
ZmjjKK - "The Beast from the East"
T3xture - "Sexture"

I don't act like the team i root for is a guarantee to win everything and crown them before it starts. Shit was nonstop with TH

he has murder in his eyes

he's not bad, but he emanates a fake self confidence that rubs me the wrong way. It's hard to describe, but exemplified about how he stands up and screams after every round he gets 2 (but only when they're up).

Yall really thought these monyet victims were gonna win champs??????

"wE gOt SeCoNd WiTh A sUb JuSt WaIt UnTil MiNiBoO cAn PlAy" 🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡

Imagine thinking a team with:

• a hype job who let it get to his head and dyed his hair vomit-yellow thinking he was the main character
• a nepo hire who stands up every to scream every time he gets a 2k (but only when they're up)
• a fortnite kid with a mullet
• a literal mouth breather
• and Riens, one good player

was enough to go all the way 😂😂😂

Especially after they threw that pistol vs Flashback, yall shoulda known better than to think that.
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Almost felt bad making this thread but after all the hubris coming from the fans its desperately needed:

Literally immediately after a resounding finals loss to Geng - "Champs gonna be so free for Heretics"
After surviving DRX in a game the should have lost - "TH winning champs the script is so obvious"

Well deserved loss after being prematurely crowned the kings of the world
Maybe PRX 2.0 fans will learn some humility.

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Imo full on toxicity doesn't help but passive-aggressiveness works wonders. I've played alot of initiator and alot of the time when I'm droning out an awp line and someone doesn't wait and dies for it I hit em with something like:

"Damn, we're not waiting for drone there? Do we not know someone can hold that? Are we new to the game?"

and they almost never make the same mistake again after that.

Aged like the finest of wines

N4rrate has one right?

The point is why would they dedicate their time to a different game if they could so easily come to valorant and win everything? It would be a no-brainer, especially financially, so why not switch? They answer that question in the video, Valorant is harder - they said it themselves.

0/8

Valorant is too hard for CS pros: https://youtu.be/i9gGZgNbhA0?si=VAFmTOqBoumF5A3D

If it really was so easy for them to switch and dominate, they would have, end of discussion.

They get smacked by both PRX and EG, a hard reality check, proving what I have said all along: Fnatic was only the 3rd best team in the world when they won tokyo

What happened a month later when their star player didn't have visa issues and they could actually practice with him?

Ill tell you: they did much better than fnatic, including beating the team that smacked tf out of them at champs, the same way PRX did (also visa issues).

FNC has a burnout

So much cope. We're still doing the 'burnout' routine? Why was EG not burned out and got 1st at champs? They went to those finals in tokyo too, same 1 month break, right back at it. The truth is they were the 4th best team at champs, and they ran into the 3rd best team.They were also not the best team in the world at tokyo

FNC in champs had practically everyone of their starts read and copied due to how good they were. people literally copied they're lotus

And I'm glad you bring up their lotus, its the ultimate example of their fraudulent, paper-thin 'greatness'. A perfect metaphor. Everybody thinks they were so insane and ahead of everybody else, and they bring up the Lotus comp as an example. But their understanding of Lotus was surface level, it's why they got hard exposed by LOUD on it by the time Champs came around, by punishing it's weakness's. Sliggy has a great breakdown on it that you should watch in full : https://youtu.be/HkcI0rC6dcY?si=zzgwUELbpKiQaQPK

Take note when he mentions that other teams domestically tried and failed to expose this weakness, but of course, Fnatic got away with it by just mech-checking everybody in EMEA. But when they ran into a team that could shoot back, this supposed strategic superiority dissapeared.

FNC in their prime clear EG any day

LOL. Fnatic played against a nerfed EG at tokyo (imagine losing your star player and preparing for a major tournament without him - potentially practicing different compositions, agents, synergy issues - just for him to return last minute)

The result:
Fnatic decisively better on 1 map : Lotus
EG decisively better on 1 map : Fracture
Every other map came down to 2 rounds, the closest possible margin in valorant
Upper finals came down to a smoke spam

N4rrate Jett/Flex (mostly init obviously), Zekken Sova/Neon/Raze

Either the Trexx 1v5 Navi or the Mako 1v4 vs Th

Forreal free my goat

#6 bro its not that serious its a joke about how aspas got 0.01 better rating

see #6

THIS IS A SILLY THREAD OF COURSE THEY BOTH PLAYED GREAT STOP TAKING IT SO SERIOUS !!!

he got it by 0.01 lol

So that Aspas can get the jett diff lmaooo

preseason, single elim, showcase tourney with a worthless trophy that breaks on planes

100T Masters : 1

Red Bull Home Ground isn't a masters, but it is a trophy nonetheless.

^^^^^how you sound

Fraudnatic has only 1 master, and they were the 3rd best team in the world when they won it.

Bro copied my whole fucking flow, word for word bar for bar

https://www.vlr.gg/393738/fnatic-was-never-great

Unpopular for a reason

Cryo Ardiss Derke were all good on it

I agree, having boaster on the other team is a massive buff for anybody playing fnatic

worst team in franchising at the time too

Boaster vs a random immortal 1 player.

No calling, no igling, no looking at minimap, no microing, no more excuses.

damn didn't know Leo only played with Bonkar and Yacine and there was nobody else on the roster

Wait till you hear about a certain swedish player literally famous for never dying first, despite the great variety of situations you encounter playing valorant.

only Aspas and Less are undisputed GOAT of their role, you can't pretend it's someone else.

Pancada, Marved, Karon and Mako are competing for the controller throne.

as are Sacy, C0m and Leo for the Initiator throne.

Word on the street is that his ult stops people from shooting, and that there will eventually be a new shield system with 2 kinds of shields you can buy. I may/may not be a time traveler.

Except that FNS can actually call, he still is the best midrounder in the game's history and it's not very close.

this is an example of boaster's calling (literally the most recent comms vid, there are plenty more examples):

https://youtu.be/uxPMgoMk0ms?si=NEVSu0i1KPyXymrO

Listen to 5:30 -> 6:11

and compare that to FNS who had once had an enemy team retaking the wrong site.

Isaac Barreto

MaKo

2021: Big Favorite to win, lets kiles become a world champion. 2nd.
2022: Missing Persons Alert
2023: Overwhelming favorite to win on the 'Astralis' superteam of Val. 4th. Completely shits the bed individually.
2024: Still on a superteam. 5th/6th. High chance of getting grouped in any other group.

He is not a Capra Hircus.

Such a shame Sacy not getting his respect, and might never. The last round we saw him (at the time of writing) is the perfect example why. Perfect fade seize that completely counters Fnatic's only chance for the round - winning the heaven fight, - gifting zekken an ez 2k, winning the round and game.

But people won't remember it because it won't be recorded under ACS, Rating, or +/-. But it will win you championships, something Leo couldn't do because he got gapped twice by Sacy's replacement.

Sacy value inside the server is better too, just doesn't show as much in the stat sheet. The fade seize on the final round vs fnatic won them the round and game, but is not gonna show up on the ACS or Rating.

Sacy - Champion + Masters winner, all time most clutch player, monster on Sova, Skye, and Gekko
Pancada - Best performer on a Champions winning team as a controller

Loud 2022 still has the most stacked roster of all time

Less - Undisputed Senti GOAT
Aspas - Undisputed Duelist GOAT
Sacy - GOAT candidate for Init
Saadhak - GOAT candidate for IGL
Pancada - GOAT Candidate for Controller

https://www.vlr.gg/event/stats/2094/champions-tour-2024-emea-stage-2

s0ntinelmain

Also 100% forsure better than the entire Navi roster lmfao

it's actually the village idiot sentinalmain calling him a matchfixer because he needs someone to scapegoat for Fnatic falling short at champs again

Was NOT the problem. We will not accept any Hiro scapegoating.

• He has guaranteed a spot in franchising with his performance, minus potential nepotism out of orgs next season
• He is probably better than 90% of EMEA franchised players
• He exceeded anything you can fairly expect out of a rookie, especially out of his first LAN
• He ended with a higher rating than Sayf and (as of the time of writing) Benjyfishy
• Fnatic played the best they have the entire year with him in the roster

We will not accept any Hiro scapegoating.

Lets look at arguably the most important round on lotus, the Sacy clutch to give SEN the lead and momentum

https://youtu.be/_yFTXXqP-NY?si=Y-9u40oHAZhFh8ht

3v2 for Fnatic, Johnqt viper ult

• Boaster low HP
• Hiro tagged a little
• Chronicle full hp

Hiro throws an eye that forces john to shoot it, revealing his position, and hiro kills him.

Viper Ult is now down. 3v1 for FNC

Sacy counter eye's that scans Hiro as the ult is falling, gets the trade, not an mistake from hiro, just a great play from sacy, nothing he could do about that and he made the play that put them in the winning position.

Boaster, who is on 1hp and should try to group up with a full hp Chron to bait himself and get the trade decides to just run in and take a fight in an untradeable position and gets put down.

It's now a 1v1, Sacy wins it.

But keep telling me Hiro is the problem. Did everything you can ask and more out of a rookie, Fnatic played the best they have the entire year with him. Ended with a higher rating than benjyfishy and sayf.

Hiro guaranteed a spot in franchising next season because of his performance and Fnatic looked the best they've been all year when he joined.
He's better than 95% of players in EMEA franchising. You just want to scapegoat him to explain why Fnatic fell short at champs again

GMB Nats lurks would get shut down in a swiftplay today

Also Cned is on that list and we know what happened with that...

erm actually you forgot he went +4 against China #4 (BLG), goatster would never do worse than -60 !!!