losing to a team that is better than you isn't a choke

The only time they were supposed to win and lost to a team they shouldn't have is the Finals vs Fnatic

Going into each match the thought process was:

vs KC 'Anyone's game, lets find out who the best team in EMEA really is'
vs Gen.G 'Anyone's game (edge to Gen.G if anything- the upper bracket team), lets find out who the best team in the world really is'
vs Fnatic 'Ez for heretics 3-0 or 3-1'
vs EDG 'Who knows, lets find out who the best team in the world really is'

The only choke was to fnatic, every other time the other team was just the better team.

In the 4 finals they lost, only 1 one was a choke.

Choking means not winning or performing in circumstances you're expected and supposed to win.

They were not better than KC at the time, it wasn't a choke.

They were not better than Gen.G at the time, it wasn't a choke.

They actually were better than Fnatic at the time, that was the one choke.

And finally, they were not better than EDG , that wasn't a choke.

The real biggest chokers of the year are 1. NRG (for obvious reasons) and 2. PRX (were favorites to win Shanghai) 3. Gen.G (getting grouped at champs was a big choke, a stain on an otherwise great year).

inshallah

(still not gonna happen tho lol)

Honestly N4rrate to SEN and Verno to NRG is a better fit for both teams

SEN (- sacy + N4rrate) get an firepower upgrade who plays all of Sacy's former agent pool except for sova -> but zekken is an insane sova and N4rrate is a better jett than Zekken -> and Sova/Jett maps go together so pure roles wise its just a win-win for example on ascent (assuming N4rrate can't just learn it if they wanna keep zekken on jett).

NRG (- crashies - victor + Verno) get a firepower upgrade who perfectly fills in Crashies agent pool, and they still have room to bring in a cracked duelist player for victor, ideally maybe a Jawgemo or Mada (or even Derke).

depends how they do it, i'm sure they have alot of creative people working there that can find a balanced solution

My Solution: Bar doesn't recharge (maybe unless you get kills) and you can't backwards slide

This way you can still do the normal explosive stuff on execs but you can't just be braindead jumping around all round and you can't just outrotate everyone by running back and forth between sites a million times on defense. Forces you to be smart about your movement util like jett dash or raze satchels.

Would be so much more tolerable than what it is now

Who said this had anything to do with my ranked games(i've been carried by a neon more recently than i've faced one btw)?

Neon is literally designed to run and gun which is stupid asf. It was the intention of the game designers when they changed the sliding accuracy. And the bar recharges he could run around like that basically half the round, while the other movement agents (jett,raze) need to be smart about it.

Remember Jawgemo's mid-air Flying Vandal Kill on Fracture vs Fnatic? Imagine the game designers made it so the raze bullets are as accurate mid air for raze as neon's is while sliding. Now imagine Raze could satchel around most of the round going for those types of kills on people. Sound like retarded bullshit? Connect the dots

some of these people never been in a custom late night with the Johnnypkay videos alt tabbed and it shows fr fr

I don't even usually rank check people on this site because higher rank = right/lower rank = wrong is stupid but when you said not being able to shoot neon is an aim issue or that he's too easily countered with cypher i knew forsure you were terrible

Low pickrate in T1? This isn't Chamber metas he doesn't have to be picked on every map to be OP. And winrate doesn't matter every character is almost by definition gonna have a near 50% winrate, thats how averages work - unless you're genuinely trolling and picking phoenix or something.

She's OP because her fundamental game mechanic is stupid and allows bad players to play above their level - because she can just jump around and backwards slide spray shoot or jump in your face with a judge and there's little to nothing anybody can do to punish it because there is no hitscan tracking in Val. That's why she's a dumbass agent that trashcans love, because they don't have to be good at the game to get value out of her.

Now that the serious comment is out of the way

YOU
From : https://www.vlr.gg/post/3233574/drop-the-tracker

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YOU ARE FUCKING DOGSHIT LMAO YOU'VE NEVER EVEN HIT IMMORTAL
YOUR LAST GAME YOU WERE 1-13 28 ACS
CLASSIC ASCENDANT EGO SYNDROME I CAN'T LMAOOOOOO

What a shitter ass comment. The best aimers in the world are still at a disadvantage against a sliding neon because of the way guns work in the game. If you don't first bullet headshot them a sliding neon with a phantom is gonna spray you down 10/10 times.

And once you get out of gold you might realize that people know how to counter cypher trips

Wait till you find out that Neon is a meta pick on the best cypher map in the game

To master?

The floor is fairly high but the ceiling really isn't that high. Def not above Sova, Raze, and Kayo (and even skye imo).

There's a reason its a boaster agent lol

Edit: Guys, you suck and stun certain places on execs and do the same thing on defense when your team calls for it ('Can you place a suck here?' 'Suck now suck now'). After that its smoking the regular spots and maybe placing and recalling a star if you want to cross somewhere. You play the agent for 5 hours and you'll be able to do it fast. There's really not that much difficult shit to master.

Edited for Suzy's Privacy

What #6 and #4 said

also Astra is not that hard, and phoenix over skye?

No i just hate that make-a-wish ass agent that rewards trashcans. I'll give you an example.

I have an irl friend named suzy who's silver. Actual silver. She has been hardstuck silver for months, and it took her a year to get out of bronze. She literally gets scared and freaks out when there are people on her screen. She only plays 3 agents, skye (always flashes us when we're on her team lmao), sage, and Neon. We played a 10 man custom amongst our mutual friend group a week ago where the average rank on each team is like high diamond. A couple ascendants, plats, and 1 imm on each team, with her as the exception. Even though we play them for fun we take the games fairly seriously.

We tell her to buy a judge or spectre (she can't aim well even with phantom) every round and just run at them. By halftime she's topfrag 15/8, by the end of game she's 21/18 and top 3 in the lobby.

doesn't need a nerf. Needs to be deleted from the game and the designer thrown into jail.

Actually the most braindead agent of all time imagine thinking a run and gun character belongs in a tac fps.

Neon makes a bad micro-decision and gets stuck in a corner where anybody else would be held and die from util or traded? nope. Slide shoot out untradeably because you can't track in this game. There's a reason all my silver irls love playing neon when they're -20 on any other agent.

small correction: Zander is the most promising smokes player in t2

edit: LOL why did this get downvoted its a freezing cold take

MIBR Shahzam

Tenz jett is not happening in pro play anymore i hate to break it to you

yeah but previous episodes (during the season) he barely touched it. Look at E8A1-3. Could be a nothingburger of course but its still something notable....

N4rrate is a better jett and zekken is an insane sova so they play

Zekken- Sova
N4rrate - Jett

on those maps. Zekken playing alot of sova on those maps could be an indication that they're close to getting N4rrate.

https://tracker.gg/valorant/profile/riot/sen%20z%235193/agents?playlist=competitive&seasonId=292f58db-4c17-89a7-b1c0-ba988f0e9d98

Zekken been playing alot of sova this act, especially on the Jett maps: Ascent, Abyss, Haven, Icebox....

SEN N4rrate incoming ???

Watching oxy stream and get 3ks and 4ks against top pros all while casually talking to chat (mid round and sometimes mid gunfight) about needing a korean gf

HM to : Less, Sayf, Texture, Meteor, Zekken, Aspas, and Primmie

N4rrate is the better fit

Dread it, run from it, the reminder that Less clears alfa will come all the same

OLD RATING

https://www.vlr.gg/167393/loud-vs-fnatic-champions-tour-2023-lock-in-s-o-paulo-gf 1.20 vs 0.97
https://www.vlr.gg/248270/fnatic-vs-loud-valorant-champions-2023-playoffs-ubqf 1.23 vs 1.06
https://www.vlr.gg/248282/fnatic-vs-loud-valorant-champions-2023-playoffs-lr3 1.14 vs 0.80

NEW RATING

https://www.vlr.gg/167393/loud-vs-fnatic-champions-tour-2023-lock-in-s-o-paulo-gf 1.26 vs 0.98
https://www.vlr.gg/248270/fnatic-vs-loud-valorant-champions-2023-playoffs-ubqf 1.19 vs 1.18
https://www.vlr.gg/248282/fnatic-vs-loud-valorant-champions-2023-playoffs-lr3 1.08 vs 0.83

Less wins 3-0

Kru Heat

oof

Also he's not even benched rn

He was literally benched for all of stage two??? That's pretty much the definition of inactive (not an active part of the roster while they're playing) unless you wanna say every player in the world is inactive since its offseason

condemned him to not be a benchwarmer like he is currently (also C9 yay part 2 would be hilarious I can't believe you missed that)

he's definitely still a capable t1 pro, even if he isn't in 2022 god mode

ended higher than sayf, johnqt, woot, karon, benjy, leaf, and Com at champs:
https://www.vlr.gg/event/stats/2097/valorant-champions-2024

Are all those guys washed too?

This is what i'd like to see happen, not what is likely to happen

If he's not retiring, why not reunite with aspas + C0m gives oxy some veteran presence and guidance on how to win at the next level

This is how I'd like to see it play out

SEN
N4rrate (Jett/Init/Flex)
Tenz
Zekken ( Duelist/Sova)
JohnQT
Zellsis

NRG
Verno
Jawgemo
Ethan
S0m
FNS

LEV
Honestly I'd like to see them stick together, but if Sacy is not retiring and riding off into the sunset:

Sacy
Aspas
Mazino
Tex
Kingg

C9
Rossy (igl/flex)
Oxy
Demon1 (smokes)
C0m
Moose/Wippie (yay???)

G2
Mada/Victor/Derke
Trent
Valyn
JonahP
Leaf

100T
I'd like to see them stick together

EG
Derrek
Koalanoob
Flyuh/Stellar (igl)
Skuba/V1c/Spaz
XXIF/Add3r

KRU
I'd like to see them stick together

Loud
I don't know anything about brazilian talent, just heard the name Sato? Anyways:

Less
Saadhak
Caunzin
Mwzera
Pancada

Furia
See the description for Loud, idk much

Tuyz
Havoc
Nzr
idk
idk

MIBR -> Relegate -> M80
Mada/Victor/Derke
Zander
Nismo
Net
BCJ

The only big problem I see is Brawk not being in it. I truly believe he deserves to be in franchising

wait are Less and Saadhak reliably believed to be leaving? Did I miss something?

If it makes you feel good, if I was in his position that's where I'd go

• org isn't broke
• ez clout
• best chance to win trophies
• roles actually make sense (assuming he replaces sacy)

BLG Ardiss (Ray Allen joining the Miami Heat)

the only one cooking on the roster and got fired

So real

yup

By how sought after they'll be

I'll do the first 3 because i'm lazy

#1 (tie) - N4rrate : A proven monster with a wide agent pool. Could join almost any roster and make them better
#1 (tie) - Verno : It's basically universally agreed that this guy is a generational talent.
#3 - Derke : Arguably the best EMEA duelist (i still think Sayf and Alfa are individually better, fight me) and definitely the most accomplished.

other notable players (for non lazy people to rank): Rossy, Hiro, Patitek, Victor, Crashies, Jamppi, Scream, Zyppan, Ardiis, yay, sayaplayer, zest, skuba, Jawgemo, Demon1 + others

this thread is probably useful : https://www.vlr.gg/399506/cloudberrys-rostermania-thing

Completely unrelated question: what rank are you?

this is probably the greatest post on the history of this site tbh

phantom is broken idc what anybody says. If you play like the loser ass mfs in dm who insta crouch-spray the entire mag every engagement then you guarantee your kill unless you get first bulleted.

Oxy queuing with rossy rn

1. Primmie 6-4 : I still think Scream has the talent to be the best EMEA player but i gotta go with Primmie, too fast and has been proven recently
2. ZmjjKK 6-4 or 7-3 : Alfa not the same as last year, KangKang also set the record against the team that spanked alfa
3. Flashback 7-3 : His aim is simply better
4. Yetujey 6-4 : In-game situations Ethan smacks him but pure aim duel I think Yetujey takes it
5. Bang 6-4 : Seanzo too crisp too fast
6. Leaf 7-3 : Honestly leaf is disgusting he's just on a much more passive role now and people forgot
7. tie 5-5 : I have no clue. Both aren't terrible but both aren't that good either.
8. Oxy 8-2 : I fully believe Oxy is heir to the throne.
9. Sayf 6-4 or 7-3: Maybe FNC Xeus will prove me wrong.
10. Riens 6-4 or 7-3 : This guy deadlifts TH, and not really via his utility (obviously still good util). Derke also too reliant on the first crouch spray hitting.

Rifle on Ascent Mid, 10 rounds. What's the final score?

1. Primmie vs Scream
2. ZmjjKK vs Alfajer
3. Nats vs Flashback
4. Ethan vs Yetujey
5. Hiro vs Bang
6. Leaf vs Cned
7. Icy vs Qck
8. Oxy vs Benjyfishy
9. Sayf vs Xeus
10. Riens vs Derke

hasn't even played in t2 yet and we're making these threads?

Genuinely the match of the century

INSPIRE VS SCREWFACE GRAND FINALS TO QUAL FOR RBHG

THE STAKES WOULD BE HIGHER THAN CHAMPS FINALS

#10

It is really, really bad, but its concentrated in certain areas, mostly LA, Seattle, San Diego, and San Fran (before glorious dear leader came for a visit).