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EMEA teams will do good as usual, expecting a bit more from Brazil or I'll by lying by saying I won't be disappointed, expect NA to beat minor regions like KR and JP, expect a few SEA team upsets

massive W

nah 3rd times the charm :)

rare jblancard W

Loud will get clapped by some sea or jp team watch

him and maybe leaf

I've always rooted for C9 in the NA scene, but I want Guard to win since if they lose, C9 are likely to close the game out in the next 2 maps and have a short series

someone find me a defibrillator quick

bruh lol

tbh none of us (koreans) expect to win glory at international events. We're not known for fps games and the fact that we have competitive teams at all is good enough for us :)

oh :(

L post or W bait, they showed they deserve to advance.

ty Hudsen

unfortunate one of these teams has to go

I think C9, they did beat Guard last time, but more importantly, considering this is a BO5 I think they have a better map pool

Sad that one of these teams isn't going to make it

and how they thought the game should be played. exactly what I said from the beginning that his varying views were not being implemented and executed well by his team.

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lol what is this thread?

Sure, we should support women's rights, but I don't see how restricting casting to always 1 male 1 female or 2 female is supporting women's rights. Using the most qualified/experienced casters seems the more logical way to go, regardless of gender. If there are qualified and good female casters, dw they'll be cast. (ex: chad pansy)

kekw more diversity? These castors are fine. Why bring in another castor who is specifically female just for the sake of having a female castor? Just enjoy whoever is casting at the moment. (There are female castors I like too not being sexist or anything btw)

lmaoooooo ggez, he was dropped for the exact same reasons I said he should be dropped. You can't beat the great Vortexy with his immaculate logic and reasoning. Try to not cuss others out when you lose an argument tho. You sound like a sore loser lmao

shok dat

ty Eutalyx well written as always

No, you don't seem to agree with dropping Bonecold apparently saying stuff like it would be "the most retarded move you can do" if you bench him.

First of all stop asking how it’s that individual’s fault. Nobody said that, I even specified he wasn’t at fault. It’s getting a bit ridiculous by now.

Second, who said they were dealing with the same issue at champs? Metas change, opposing teams improve, the team needs to change as a whole as time passes.

A different view on how to execute their game plans.

I would fix the issue by dropping Bonecold, in case you didn’t notice that’s what I was advocating for. And lo and behold it happens. I think we both know who’s correct. The results speak for themselves.

The fact that he wasn’t sharing the same vision on how to play the game? Yeah that’s exactly my point. He hasn’t been able to successfully igl as you can clearly see because of that, hence his dropping. Besides that statement which literally supports my claims idk what other point you brought up.

Then what was? Lmao, still yet to give me something. NT buddy. The simple fact that he was dropped is kinda telling who’s correct rn.

lmao you're repeating the exact same things to no avail

1. his individual stats aren't good enough
2. he hasn't been leading his team well (even if it's because he had different views on how to play the game) which shows through their bottom 2 group stage exit

I'll simply repeat the facts myself. You're still yet to give a logical reason to defend him.

edit: it keeps adding new posts to this thread idk why

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Wrong you braindead baboon. If you read, I CLEARLY stated the team was lacking leadership and decisiveness in-game as well, the responsibilities which rest on the igl's shoulders to provide solid leadership and guidance (on top of his already poor individual stats). Looks like I wasn't the only one who felt like it since, in case you didn't notice, he got dropped. Literally shows you don't even read what I write and are just trying to ramble on pointlessly without evidence or logic or reasoning, defending this guy like he's some Greek God.

never seen a Korean with such L takes

this guy better be a fake flagger... D:

who's cutting the onions 😢

face palm

ban this guy, he's tarnishing the reputation of our flag

I don't think so unfortunately, they should add one tho

wut? I'm just trying to prove my point that DRX going to Iceland isn't just "guaranteed" and that they have been easily destroyed by another Korean team very recently. (although I still think DRX are favorites)

I work as a janitor at Acend hq. I was cleaning out a toilet that cned clogged and left hastily behind as he jett dashed over to his pc to buy an op before the round started when I overheard the coach talking on his phone about dropping bonecold in the stall next to me.

https://www.vlr.gg/71632/on-sla2ers-vs-drx-champions-tour-korea-stage-1-challengers-w2

that was a banger match as well

Fnatic vs MC3 no cap best match ever so far in emea

wdym "wdym "defense" "?

you've been literally defending him blood sweat and tears saying things like its "the most retarded move you can do" if you bench bonecold

lol

off you go on your meaningless rants again.

Here are the facts:
he's been individually not performing well
he has not been able to effectively have his views executed by the rest of the team (like you noted yourself)

nobody said he is at fault, just that he's not meshing well with the team

idk what more of a defense you have for him

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i think unlikely but still def possible

https://twitter.com/purest/status/1506752726700466180

respectfully, did you even read what I wrote?

yes ik what the word "different' means, do you? I completely understood that he has a different view on how the game should be played. Not that hard to understand.

"has nothing to do with... individual performance not being good enough"

kinda does, if he was fragging insanely and going +20 kills every game or something, I can guarantee you he would not have been benched.

No team will literally say that "playerX has been going negative alot, their kda is bad and therefore we're going to drop them" Instead they'll say something mushy like "Today we part ways with playerX. He has been a key foundational part of our roster since its inception. We wish nothing but success for playerX's future" blah blah blah even if everyone knows they have been individually performing poorly.

Besides that, I agree with everything else you said, since it literally supports my claims.

"if their core has a completely different view of the game and they are not really having the same vision anymore it obviously creates a problem in the team and its not bonecolds job to force his own vision on others and try to force to make it work"

couldn't have put it better myself. If you haven't noticed, I've been basically saying the exact same thing. He cannot manage to effectively have his ideas executed by the rest of the team. Yes I definitely know there is no one 'correct' way to play the game and he has his visions which are totally fine. I even said he's a good player further in this thread to another person, but he is failing to have his visions be implemented well by the team, hence his benching.