You one of those I see

Hating on a 17-year-old girl who plays video games for a living is crazy.

Not that I agree with them that Flor necessarily would be insane in t1, but Runi in his last several games before getting picked up by C9 the first time, went negative a couple of times against random t2/t3 teams.

Fast-forward to now, Runi stats-wise is among the better players in Americas right now. The gap between t2 and t1 is not as much as you think it is.

Ok but like that comment was crazy whether she's underage or not

Bruh what? Tf you want her to do, go +30 every game?

lmao so that answers my question

bruh...you know flor is 17 right?

Well, the point doesn't make sense unless you're saying that +11 is now bad. And, Flor has had some bad games that aren't her worst game. Those would have illustrated your point better.

Ok, but like she's gone negative before, idk why you didn't just use that.

Of all the games you could have picked to argue Flor is bad, you picked a game where she went +11. Shit, if that's what her bad looks like, I'd want her on my team asap.

He wasn't at Madrid, and for Shanghai there's no rating available, but both his acs and k/d are not good.

This is just wrong though

First off, the Icy signing was a chem signing. Literally, leaf said they signed him to execute their plans, not to go in and kill everyone. Icy is clearly not on par with other duelists in the top half of t1. Not that it's necessarily a bad thing though, G2 has done well with him on their team.

Secondly, I think if Flor were getting scrims we'd know considering how many leaks there are about scrims.

Ahh shit here we go again

https://www.vlr.gg/298243/winthrop-university-vs-shopify-rebellion-challengers-league-2024-north-america-qualifiers-oq-1/?game=all&tab=overview

https://www.vlr.gg/281432/turtle-troop-vs-version1-knights-monthly-gauntlet-2023-october-sf

I think it's fair to say she's a t2 talent with t1 potential, but ik a lot of people wouldn't go remotely that far.

Idk because T2 NA is hard to define, but I'd say any team in challengers rn, plus any team that can compete with those teams (basically any team that could replace teams in the bottom of the league).

Winthrop they played in qualifiers and TTR was in a night's monthly, but idk see why that matters.

Some people do need to chill, but at the same time, other people are vastly underrating how good flor is.

Bro this is crazy you picked one of the few games the went negative in. Like cmon, she went positive against TTR and WU both in the challengers league rn.

It doesn't even have to be a good day imo, but sure. And tbh, even against good t1 teams I could still see her doing well. Like I said before, it depends on the situation, and SR is clearly not the best situation.

Mibr might be the worst team in franchising. Maybe SR would still lose but you're crazy if you think flor is incapable of dropping 20 or more against them.

When? Every time flor plays against a t2 team she's almost going positive while most of her teammates struggle. Besides a lot of t2 NA teams are better and have more mechanical skill than the mibr.

Respectfully, mibr is ass flor could 100% drop at least 20 against them with ease.

Even with T2, this is the case. Bob is still the only GC's player to get picked up by a T2 team at any point. Truthfully, I don't think we'll see a GC team qualify for a challenger's league, at least not anytime time soon. Unfortunately, mixed teams aren't a thing either.

IDK if I'd go as far as a generational talent, but her being on a GC's team hurts her stock with a lot of people.

Put boaster on duelist fr

PRX is never doing this even if xccurate is forsaken's brother

1. Not a banger
2. Banger
3. Fuck no, in what world is this a banger match?
4. Only interesting because of M8 but not even close to a banger
5. Could go either way but it'll probably be a good match

I'd give you 2/5 on banger matches this week.

As a Non-European, I also wanna know.

Does bro know

SugarZ3ro is good but chill, MaKo still clears.

I do too, but some of the stuff people are saying in this thread is just weird icl.

Yeah, Breeze is still in the map pool.

That's completely not what I said but ok

like the number of teams that could be competitive internationally

Damn this thread got some insane arguments like wtf

Pacific is more top-heavy and Americas has more depth. Idk if that answers your question.

I think so, but like I said it depends on the situation.

I think flor could do well in T1 but it really does depend on the situation. She clearly has the mechanical ability it's just whether she can translate that against the best of the best.

ik this a bait, but like neon just got buffed lmao.

Are you just a fan of Ts and Zs?

No, most of the teams were ass because it was the beginning of both franchising and the season. Not to mention starting the season off with a single elimination tournament where you could end up playing one game, and then going home. It was a fun way to kick off franchising, but holy hell it's a terrible way to measure how good teams are.

Really, it's just good for having fun and unr, but for actually trying the map looks so bad.

From what perspective is Breeze good?

Wait I forgot, mb.

I'd go with

zekken
Ethan
eeiu
Boostio
Cryo

Yeah, it is pretty close between the two. I just think Meteor putting up the numbers he was on a support role, is enough to put him over the edge.

Lowkey I feel like Meteor deserves a shout. He was going crazy on sentinel, especially towards the end of the tournament.

Unless FNC really step it up, then yeah. Even if they do, the top half of the EMEA league is fairly competitive I'd say. Even a good FNC might struggle in the current state of VCT, especially internationally.