cock fight would be better. WE ARE SPARTA!!!!!!!!!

Ok, we have known that vlr rankings are absolute dogshit, but this actually confirms it. I'm happy for TSM and their fans and picked them to make it to grand finals in this tournament. But c'mon, we all know they're not top 2

https://www.vlr.gg/event/pickem/576/champions-tour-north-america-stage-3-challengers-2

Edit: somehow posted the wrong link at first, LOL

Corey, Babybay is extremely inconsistent

ya maybe, I dont think teams think too much about it, they view it as they have to beat the best teams if they wanna go to Berlin anyways. I think TSM is just focusing on winning every game they play, seeding match or not, to help them get their confidence back.

Thats if they win the whole tournament, not just this match against LG

thats what im saying, people see 1 agent change and automatically think the teams trolling

not just by loosing this match, if your assuming they wanna get on the opposite side of sentinels, all they have to do is not when this tournament. They already can't face sentinels first round since it's impossible for TSM to come out this tournament in 4th (8th overall)

How does their comp make you think they're just playing for fun??? They change a few agents from last time they played bind and you automatically assume they're just playing for fun?!? That logic makes no sense, you ever thing they just have multiple agent pool options for each match and wanna try them out in a seeding matchs.

Gotcha, thats why I was asking, I wanted to see what was considered cold to Brazilians. I'd be outside in shorts and short sleeves, thats my type of weather LOL

fair enough, whatever helps pass time. Just curious how cold is it?

an absolute brain fart....no other conclusion......UNLESSSS?!?!?

Were comparing csgo vieweship in Russia, one of the countries where csgo viewership is at its highest, compared to valorant viewership in Europe, where valorant is still trying to gain its foothold in a region where csgo is still more popular. The constant comparing is pathetic. Do yall not have anything better to do...?

The 3 teams that would have to make it to Berlin( in order for V1 to still be able to qual for champions thru circuit points); are Sen, TSM, Rise. TSM and Rise, once in Berlin, would both have to go out 13-16. This would give them both 175 points, slightly shy of V1's 200 circuit points. Sentinels are already above them so once they make it to Berlin they can win or come in last, wont make a difference for V1

Overall, the 3 teams would be Sen, Rise, TSM. TSM and Rise need to go out 13-16.

This links breaks everything down: https://liquipedia.net/valorant/VALORANT_Champions_Tour/2021/Circuit_Points/North_America

Edit: So highly unlikely for V1 to qual to champions thru their 200 circuit points.

I think ska lacks motivation, he had the same issue immediately after winning the Boston major

Its curry and I agree watching that was horrible. Group towards b, sova drone mid, than all go thru b main. No default. no killing KJ alarmbot, no baiting out util, no meaningful info gathering, literally nothing. You could tell the igl had a lack of experience and you cant blame the igl fully, their coach put him in that situation

it was their coaches decision

I think you got some creative ideas that could be turned into something. I also hate the post plant meta but more towards the god plants and spamming version of it and wish they would change the maps slightly to prevent this. Like haven c site, c long shouldn't have direct vision onto the bombsite. Even if your smoked off c long as the attackers in post plant scenario, you can just ping bomb and spam. Especially god plant back site to the left of the radiant crates is just op and not counterable unless you have a sage wall. Just think how many sites have direct vision from their respective main.

Yes its for champions. Each region gets a certain amount of slots for champions through circuit points and an additional slot through LCQ. NA gets 2 circuit point slots and 1 through LCQ. And remember, the winner of Berlin automatically quals for champions (essentially adding an additional champion slot for their region.)

All the main regions have a LCQ with the smaller ones being merged into the bigger ones. (ex: OCE being merged with NA)

No bracket info since the circuit point standings wont be finalizes until after Berlin

This explain Champions format and slot distribution
https://liquipedia.net/valorant/VALORANT_Champions_Tour/2021
https://liquipedia.net/valorant/VALORANT_Champions_Tour/2021/Champions

You only get circuit poiunts from Masters and Challenger playoffs.

This is the points you receive from challenger playoffs
https://liquipedia.net/valorant/VALORANT_Champions_Tour/2021/North_America/Stage_3/Challengers_Playoffs

10 teams compete in it. 8 teams from NA, 2 from Oceania. The 8 teams that compete in it from NA are circuit point holders 3-10 (since 1-2 already qualified with their circuit points). Not sure how the two Oceania teams are selected and If Soniqs would qualify as a Oceanic team or not.

This is the current circuit point standings:

https://liquipedia.net/valorant/VALORANT_Champions_Tour/2021/Circuit_Points/North_America

Thats fkn insane!!!!!!

I think Riot will announce something for the teams that are completely out of VCT

I feel bad for you if a forums upvote/downvote system bothers you soo much. Its the internet what do you expect...?

Its all good, your think about Champions (which is at the end of the year). Berlin is the last masters before Champions and who ever wins Berlin automatically qualifies for Champions, therefore giving their region an extra slot in Champions.

And to clarify Im saying fair regarding the current slot distribution we have for Berlin. If it was my choice I would take one from Japan and SEA and give them to EMEA an NA.

NA having 3 slots is perfectly fair. EMEA has 3 regions which is why they deserve 4 slots.

What are you talking about....? NA had 3 slots no matter who won Iceland. The winner of Berlin adds an extra slot for their region in Champions which is at the end of the year

How can you say that tho when they have 3 initiators and 2 controllers, someone has to entry

Ya they def not tier 1 I agree with that, they tier 2 as of now imo

Hes insane but a very momentum based player. He couldn't be stopped today but was very frustrating to watch cuz he played the same spots alot and a better team would have most likely punished him. On icebox he would constantly take b long for free and farm c9. They literally wouldn't even clear him even tho he did it multiple times. He was just exploiting their flashless comp and sloppy play. Hes prolly in the top 10% aim wise in NA.

I think people make it more confusing by literally switching teams between tiers so quickly and by adding a tier 1.5. In reality teams that are in so called tier 1.5 are just at the bottom of tier 1 or top of tier 2 so just put em there. Just my opinion I just think its crazy how quickly some people will drop or raise a team between tiers based on their last performance.

https://www.vlr.gg/pickem/7f5ea4b9

Are you trolling when you say TSM is tier 3 or do you genuinely think that? I mean tier 3 is like the teams that compete in VCS Sunday showdowns

Ok maybe I spoke to literally, I meant hate in a rivalry way as in always rooting against them and love seeing them lose, not in a personal way that's what I was kinda getting at by saying hating teams but not the players (unless the players have been proven to be dirty players or scummy people outside of the sport)

Do you watch any real sports....? Most fans hate their teams rivals and love to see them lose. Hating teams is perfectly normal, hating individuals who play on the team is not.

This year yea, but did you forget Valorant was around last year...? They def weren't tier 2 last year

I mean the points from masters 1 is basically the same is the points for challenger playoffs from stage 2 and 3, its actually a little less. I would say that's fair.

Its annoying af. Think about all the bombsites in the game....How many of them have direct vision on to the bomb plant from the sites main (a main/b main).? This encourages basic strats such as plant the bomb, fall back to main, and play post plant. It can be boring af to watch, I been saying this for a min

Its crazy to think about how every generation gets softer. WWII era 17-18 year olds were fighting for their respective nation. Now their snitching on people for being called a fuckin stick!!! LOL

Wow I cant believe what I just witnesses. Soft is an understatement

"No idea how does this comp work on Defence!!"

Your next post:

"I am saying this on the basis of their recent defense records on Ascent with this comp"\

That's a contradiction if I ever saw one

Where you get tens of thousands of dollars from?? Liqupedia says they won $8750 and list all their tournament seedings. All im saying is I feel bad if they have to watch two inferior Oceania teams compete in NA Last Chance quals. At least they'll have front row seats, maybe you can be their plus 1

He wasn't dropped, His contract was up and he choose to go elsewhere since Immortals just looks to develop talent and sell them causing a constant rotation of players making it hard for the players to display their real talent in a structured setting

Not sure if they'll be in last chance qualifier. Only circuit points 3-10 can compete and right now Andbox is 10 with 20 points. If Rise, Luminosity, KCP, and some other teams even make it to playoff it knock them out

https://liquipedia.net/valorant/VALORANT_Champions_Tour/2021/Circuit_Points/North_America

I know...I feel for him... one of the worst ways to end for him

Absolutely anti-climatic ending. Vice looked nervous af

2 rounds they just let em defuse

they prolly didn't know there was 2 down there, was still dumb af since he was un-tradeable

Your embarrassing them more than they already are, they may have to watch 2 Oceania teams that they're prolly better than come compete in NA last chance qualifier. They're move to NA may backfire unless they get blessed and are allowed to take 1 of the 2 Oceania last chance qual spots

Not sure, but 10 teams compete in NA last chance qualifier. 8 from NA (circuit point holders 3-10) The other two are from Oceania (not sure how those two are decided). Soniqs have no NA circuit points and don't know if they would be eligible to be one of the 2 Oceania teams since they are now based in NA