I’m supposed to believe the Loud that couldn’t even beat KRU last year with Saadhak and Less is supposed to beat them now with 2 clear downgrades???

I think them beating EG is fair but anything past that is them pushing above their weight.

I think Mibr is favored over 100t but that depends on if Xenom and Cortezia live up to their hype from T2(from the Brazil fans at least )

If Icy doesnt perform well tho I think Loud will likely diff EG on firepower.

Finance

It makes sense with the upcoming map pool tbh
Fracture: Brim
Bind: Brim
Split: Astra/Omen
Pearl: Astra
Abyse: Astra
Lotus: Omen
Haven: Omen

5/7 Maps are brim and astra maps so Demon1 should be comfortable there hopefully his omen has impoved tho

Just put my fries in the bag bro.

I have multiple problems with C9

The Team has a “problem” with Rossy but have you noticed “this team” has no problems with Moose and Xeppa? Why can’t the Team BUILD around Rossy and Oct instead of Moode and Xeppa Why can’t they Get two talented T2 players instead of Xeppa and Moose like Moose was one of the worst sentinel players in NA last year and Xeppa being below average for 3 whole years apparently means nothing to the C9 staff. They are kept because of nepotism and not to build anything.

They don’t care about performance at all (them keeping Xeppa and Moose is prove of that).

Their nepotism is so bad that their gate keeping So much better talent from T2 for seemingly no results compared to every other NA team. They are the only NA org that hasn’t made a International lan during the partnership era (lock in doesn’t count obviously cause everyone was invited) NRG, EG, 100t,SEN, G2 all have qualified to at least 1 in these last 2 years alone).

Signing a contract for 2027 with a Rossy and than dropping them 2 months later like is there any validity to their signings.

There is a serious problem with the management and the biggest problem rn is that the players are comfortable around each other (I mean “these guys are my friends, so no matter how badly I perform nobody will ever drop me cause they love me” type comfortable.

This dont even make sense EVEN if there is an issue with the style of igling Why can’t they just build a roster to fit that igling style and build around Rossy and oxy Instead of Xeppa and Moose who seem to always be in C9’s plans regardless of how poor their performance is. It’s like they don’t want improvement just building on a formula that hasn’t worked for years.

EDG in D is just hating now fr

Its such a bad comparison tho since Corteza and Xenom have not even played a game in T1 so its an unfair comparison to Tex. Just cause sombody has insane mechanics in T2 doesn't always mean the transition to T1 will yield the same stats.

They were the best team in Champs yes but to say they were “By Far” the best is crazy because we all know Lev threw their match against them. And they were mid in all of 2024 up until the Upper bracket vs Sentinels.

Do we have any Faith in C9?

I thought most Turkish players were stuck in Shitty orgs demanding insane buyouts from Vct teams.

Just put my fries in the bag bro

Aye we got the same birthday date

Hbd goat

Isnt Mazino the replacement for Heat tho and realisticlaly Adverso for Mta

well he lost to EG...

This gotta be bait

I mean Statistically N4rrate, Zekken, and Bang played well in this event so idk why people keep bringing up Sacy and Tenz. The real issue is the questionable comps and Role switches (which I do not trust Kaplan on after the deadlock incident)

They got 2nd, they still are one of the better NA teams (pending G2,100t and Lev showings of course )

and ppl dont realize NRG's roster looks very good (Verno and Mada look incredible + s0m and ethan on good form + Fns shooting back is joever for everyone in Americas and Sen could secretly be the 2nd best team in the world ppl need to calm down until an official match is played and teams are fully settled on their roster.

Tbf to them som wasnt shotting today so it makes them look worse.

He still frying on Senti so idk why everyone is losing their mind about honestly.

IMO N4rrate on Sentinels is fin but not on Abyse and Ascent. It’s fairly obvious to me to just put N4rrate on Jett and Zekken on Sova on those maps but god knows what Kaplan is cooking.

source?????

It won’t change much imo b/c that trip was mainly a problem in lower ranks (cuz ppl for the love of god will do anything in their power NOT to break that trip with their utility no matter how much you explain them) in pro play that trip will instantly be broken almost every single time to the point where most teams just put trips back site to stop the neon from pushing in deep, so this thing about cypher being less appealing doesn’t make much sense to me for pro play currently.

I would imagine You must not like American football either cause 70% of the Game is literally doing nothing.

Sentinels (if things go wrong they can just replace the worst player with redux)

NRG: ( IF Mada plays well and Verno lives up to his hype this team has higher ceiling than G2 IMO)

G2: Jawgemo fits well + other 4 players deliver the same or higher form than 2024

Lev: This is dependent on how well NatanK and Demon1 do (especially Demon1) King is very good and Tex is usually decent as well. This team could be very very good if Demon1 is in good form.

100t: Very good core hoping for the same stuff pretty much, Cryo owning on Jett maps while Asuna is decent on raze maps, and for Zander to either match or surpass Bang will be the main thing the team would be striving towards.
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Now for 6th and below I could genuinely argue for any of these next couple of teams:

KRU: Keznit , Shy and Mazino are very good and Adverso is decent but I’m still not convinced with Mta and would have preferred Melser or even Nzr

EG: There is a world where this team could be crazy if Potter can enable Yay (especially with incoming chamber buffs) and if Sym can be consistently good there is serious potential for them, as long as Supamen also continues his fairly strong performances and Derek finding more consistency.

Mibr: Aspas + Nzr is a good combo and maybe if they can get Qck + Melser maybe???? They could have some alright support around Aspas.

Loud: I still think Cauanzin, Pancada, and Tuyz are fairly good shooters as well as Dgzin whose returning to T1 does give me hope but for Loud to REALLY be good imo they need to get Sato and Lukxo when their 18 for the regular season.

C9: League stage merchants , I personally don’t like Xeppa and Moose staying on the team, Definitely more firepower than Last year’s C9 but they seem like a bunch of friends just trolling like it’s a ranked game.

Furia : they just don’t have Aura right now. Mw is alright, Havoc when he’s not brain dead is the goat, Heat is very good, Khalil needs to have more decent games instead of showing a Peak Aspas level gameplay for one map and disappearing for the rest of the league stage.

2GE: I legit don’t know anyone like they could be good or bad

I wouldnt mind them staying togetheir but its a serious disservice to all the thai talent considering they only have one franchised team in the league and are not being given any opportunities considering the potential talent you mentioned.

Vandal: Kuranami ( Would love to have the reaver)
Phantom: Nocturnm

That’s good to know but I’m surprised 100t and G2 who are Sen’s ”rivals” aren’t there, would have been good for the content.

Is this an actual event or some gimmick where streamers play

Demon1 will likely just play Jett + smokes because Tex and King can both Play raze. Also with the Chamber and Astra buffs coming as well it should give him decent options. Maybe he should try learning Cypher and KJ if he wants the more lurks style play.

As long as they end up bringing sato and lukxo after kickoff idrc about Dgzin and V1nny atm. If they perform well obv keep the roster but if they don't just bring in lukxo and sato for the regular season.

Nobody respects Kru these days

They pick randos for kickoff and bring in lukxo into the team when he's 18 (delulu) assuming he doesnt get poached by literally everyone else in South America.

I doubt they will leave tbh

Even if they get relegated after the 2025 season , G2 will likely still play challengers/ ascension in 2026 and wait for the revaluation of orgs to happen in 2027 in which they will very likely be chosen.

According to him the worst region in champs 2024 will have 4 teams in S tier like this is criminal. Imo if the argument is Prx is still a S tier team than Fnatic and Sentinels are S as well. Liquid is just wild.

Demon1, Oxy, Jawgemo, leaf, mada, ethan, s0m aint here lil bro

i actually did forget but I got no clue who their getting either way

SEN:
JohnQT
N4rrate
Zellsis
Bang
Zekken

100t
Eeiu
Zander
Boostio
Cryo
Asuna

NRG:
Mada
Verno
Fns
s0m
Ethan

G2:
Valyn
Leaf
JonahP
Trent
Jawgemo

KRU:
Keznit
Shy
Melser
Adverso
Mazino

C9:
V1c
Rossy
Moose
Oxy
Xeppa

Loud:
Dgzin
V1nny
Pancada
Cauanzin
Tuyz

Furia:
Havoc
Raafa
Mwzera
Khalil
Heat

Mibr:
Palla
Liazzi
Artzin
Mazin
GuhRVN

2GE:
Silentzz
Zap
Lz
Pryzee
???

LEV:
Tex
Com
King
Demon1
???

I will agree with you that Lev imo should focus on at least having a majority latam team considering their purpose "should" be to represent South America , But I think some of NA orgs should also try bringing in some latam players (obv the ones that speak english well at least) to truly be considered an "Americas" league it cant just be a one sided affair were all the SA orgs just end up getting NA players especially when there is clear talent in latam that can compete in Americas compared to some NA players that are still on the leage based on Nepotism ( fuck C9)

IMO the issue is really with C9 and EG not bringing up good t2 players specifically this year (like idk how Apoth ended up in the league). These two teams are obviously paying very low salaries compared to the other NA orgs + Lev. The fact that none of Oxygen, MxS, M80 players ended up in These two teams last year was criminal.

I can agree wit your China point but Pacific was by far the worst region during champs and wit Gen G core splitting up as well as PRX and DRX being mid at best it isnt looking that good.

Sword art online

Where is my goat Cauanzin going?

Gekko: N4rrate
Viper: Bang
Brim: zellsis
Fade: Johnqt
Raze: Zekken
imo based on RBH event Johnqt was playing fade and sova so I think hes just gonna flex the most.

Has C9 ever done anything wrong besides the low salary arguments (which imo as ong as their paying on time and doing the minimum at least there should be no reason to remove them)

if anything in the future C9 will likely just end up being a likely option for many T2 players who just want to be in T1 (regardless of salary) while the other T1 orgs are just gonnna pay more for top tier current talent and the absolute best of T2.

I mean based on my perspective Derke and N4rrate is a better trade compared to Saadhak and Less (currently)

Obviously the potential benefit of Saadhaks igling can fix many of KC’s issues but the rest of the pieces need to be announced.

Less could be problematic, I’m worried This Vitality “super team” will have internal issues and they just seem like their too serious.

So let me get this straight Americas has essentially lost all its current Brazilian Star talent:

Tuyz and Less potentially going to EMEA
Cauanzin idk what his situation is but I don’t know where he can go in Americas rn.
Saadhak (he’s basically Brazilian at this point ) moving to EMEA
Aspas (pacific?)
Sacy (retired)
Heat potentially won’t have a team (if I understood this post correctly since it seems Kru don’t want to keep him and Furia can’t afford buyout so I don’t know where bro gonna end up.

I thought he was still learning english so I didnt think he would join any team outside of Brazil atm.

Tenz is the Face of Global valorant, it doesnt matter if KK is more popular in China, What matters is the overall recognizability of players by the global audience in valorant as well as outside Valorant in other games not just one massive country. Most people who have never touched valorant will name Tenz over KK.

Imo the league should at least move to 14 teams, increasing the partners to 12 and still having 2 slots for ascension.

• One Brazil org (There is lots talent in Brazil (lukxo and sato my goats specifically, they just need to be given more opportunities but bc of current nepotism and poor talent scouting it makes the situation look worse)
  -One latam org (deserved imo based on results of Kru and Lev)
  -G2 replace EG

I would also like the league to occasionally hold an Americas event in BR (like all the teams travel for one month BR to compete for stage 2 kinda thing, I just need to see some lans be held in other countries at least once a year)