Oh, same venue which was used for CS GO's last major in 2023. I still feel like the crowd will be worse simply because vitality were in paris and there are no french teams
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Oh, same venue which was used for CS GO's last major in 2023. I still feel like the crowd will be worse simply because vitality were in paris and there are no french teams
15 round halves, albeit more balanced, tend to go way longer. If you go for 6 more rounds in regulation (30 instead of 24) you add 2 more time outs (1 for each team), you have way more eco rounds https://imgur.com/a/HxKA7cS HLTV went into it once, basically where you see CS GO it's MR15 and val is MR12, when a bo3 lasts longer than a fucking NFL game, you know it's way too long
You don't get it, LoL is far more profitable. Profits from LoL go to make LoL even better and profits from val go to make LoL even better because LoL > Val
Joke so good I hit a swish from 30 feet deep
is it why you do this high level maths in school? To calculate the racial background of an internet person to use as an arguement?
the strongest minds of Kuala Lumpur, Singapore and Johor Bahru have all identified leafdagoat ethnic background with a 99.99% precision
Even a little crowd doesn't change a lot tho, it's like 300-400 people, and it's a low stakes match, I just don't think the costs are worth the show
yeah I can see why most vct fans don't enjoy regular cast, a professional caster had his balls nailed with a hammer during Viva's 1v4
ngl wanted to mute the stream during Viva's clutch when one caster had a seizure, like wtf was that
nah I am just explaining, this guy is the biggest dota streamer who is in contact with a lot of current and ex dota pros from CIS, so like he can easily get a lot of viewers on his own, but then he gets someone like Miposhka, who is a 2x time TI winner and everyone is watching him
but won't studio games be ultimately less interesting than any arena game?
this someone has basically taken the slot left by the biggest streamer of all time in CIS (Arthas) and since 2021-2022 has been the biggest esports streamer in CIS after evelone (who is focused on CS)
Nix for Russians (biggest scene). Not a watchparty, just co-cast, but he invites a lot of ex-pros to watch the game (dyrachyo, Miposhka)
Bro CS has been doing this shit for like 15 years now, ofc even regular events like Blast London or IEM Chengdu will fuck VCT Champs especially when Riot focus on Worlds
Yeah, so why cut cost for a game which can still grow?
But then having crowd for groups is useless? most of group games will happen when Europeans have work (except for Sundays), then axe the crowd for this time and focus on great production. Stage, Arena, Replays, OBS, HUD. ''OOo we have a crowd in groups'' but then the arena looks like a backstreet 5v5 Local LAN, like I am pretty sure you come from CS, doesn't it look to you like something Starladder would host at CyberArena in Kyiv?
Would I organize better? No. Can Riot do better? Yes they can. I don't know why you settle for this when LoL will get x10 better than this
It would not, CS left Katowice because Katowice is an industrial city, Krakow is way better
Chance of a team defusing. Welcome to the aws graphics, a.k.a inaccurate shit f1 had and has
Riot chase hype. They don't chase quality. At least for Valorant. Belgrade, Budapest, Bucharest, Krakow all are way cheaper than Paris, but you can agree that Champions Paris sounds way more hype than Champions Bucharest
I meant everyone related to the event. Those who left ESL or Blast just went to PGL and Fissure, they didn't go to VCT.
How do you expect a production to be good when most S-tier experts in the european field are hired by all the CS/Dota TOs, they pay way more and organize way more events, VCT are just forced to deal with less talented ones
What do you expect when you host it in a region where val is way less popular than CS? CS TOs have the best european tournament organizing talent, they go from ESL to Blast or from PGL to Fissure, which is why all of them are top notch https://www.hltv.org/gallery/view/241178
I think a team would rather win their 3 BO3s then potentially go on a 7 BO3 Run
''It's a group stage match, having it on stage with at least a little crowd is a big W for a tournament like this.'' - but then you have events like PerfectWorld Shanghai Major or Rio 2022 major where almost a full crowd was there, and it was some random ass 0-2 game in the opening stage
''Rather than having group stage matches in a studio format like other esports have, where most or half teams do not experience international stage matches at all.'' Other esports have more events where the apparent best 4 teams of any region have a chance to enjoy actual good big crowds
''Stop comparing it to other VALORANT events where huge crowd gathers for the latest stages of competition.'' In my opinion comparing it to other Valorant events is the best bet, people ask Riot to keep their standards at a high level, as they rightfully should
I am yet to see any UI in any esport which had 0 people complain
I would honestly watch Dota if Spirit made it to playoffs
Best TOs are hired by BLAST, ESL, PGL, Fissure. All of them work for CS/Dota events
Sure, let's add double elim to potentially have a team run 21 Games in like 4 weeks?
Valve just allow TOs to organize everything themselves. PGL fucked things up because they had little experience, last major was BLAST's, they are GOATed at everything related in production
riot pays them, but it doesn't mean riot covers all of the expenses.
I mean surely they need to make it public which clauses weren't met, no?
if riot kicked KOI because they didn't stream games it might actually be restarted. Or they just needed an excuse to get some bigger org in their place, perhaps?
Put him as head coach and let the ''Wait for 0:07 on timer before we go out''™ tactic fuck over EMEA and the entire scene. The cancerous navi style which plagued CS, it will make G2 look like a fun team
honestly if they win mouz they already did more than the col core since 2023
any other top 20 bar hltv is irrelevant, and in 2013 it was markeloff and edward. Zeus is basically what ange1 wanted to be, ange1 didn't do shit with adren mou and dosia in their prime, yet zeus took them to a major win when they were pushing 30
nope, never made it to hltv top 20
top 5 CIS IGL at best but fairs ig
it is objectively impressive, but in the beginning he failed the ''first ever CIS superteam'' and then he would gather friend stacks where they would drink beer before and after almost every game.
fantastic in val, not so fantastic in CS
fucking finally. Like how can you be in the same org as the goat Blade and not realize you are not cutting it at tier 1 anymore?
is bro in his shaq era at 22?
I mean most events still get great viewing hours and burnout is just an excuse. You can skip as many events as you want, no one forces you to play every single one
honestly if they do like 8/4 or 7/5 split it would be great
that's the aspect I hate the most. FYI I will compare a lot with CS, simply because I am a CS frog, but there you have an event almost every month where you can watch your favourites, the progress of teams is traceable thanks to VRS (e.g. mongolz going from top 10 to top 3 in a matter of months, or navi going from top 3 to top 11 in half a year)