And the org who overcame being complete shit to actual tier 1 events

I will give them one year, I like the fact they are actually trying to change, that's already a minimum

It waters down the competition in my opinion, it turns VCT into a clout machine and not actual tier 1 product and it's sad

I don't like the trajectory of their roster, it seems like washed pros gathering and recycling their friends. Who would have thought that the guys who pulled this shit in NA CS would go back to their old tricks

If T1 manage to put a solid roster together, then I agree they deserve to be there. But for now they are there just for those LoL ties

Valid point, but that takes away from a competitive aspect in my opinion

That's the fundamental problem you get with Franchising. I will not be surprised if instead of going for actual talents and future stars scummy orgs will go for some shot down pilots again

It's hard for any org to do this. There is a reason these seemingly brainless morons are executives or managers in the first place. They know how to "talk" to people and what to say in situations where your job is on the line

Exactly the reason I personally think Franchising can't work in esports. Academies might be the way forward, but then that would put insane pressure on the players there, pretty much one split for you to show yourself, if you are good from the get go, you are retained, if you struggle, bye bye tier 1

True, but I would argue it was more of potter's doing. Problem with EG is that they literally shot themselves in the foot.

So then that makes them a 1 man team? Others were just there?

That's the problem of the org. If an org can't make a good roster, why would this org be deemed good enough to have a slot?

IMO that's the fault with franchising at the moment, it's supposed to be a league with all the best teams and all the best teams, and there you see them building shitty roster over and over again. There is no draft like in the nba to get your talent who you can build around

Then it's even more of a waste that they still suck despite the talent pool

Trying isn't enough for me, I like the fact that they are trying, just that they need to pop off completely this year

Only for that core to come back and do nothing this whole year.

Remains to be seen if they work. If they do make it work, then I guess I would put navi on the chopping block, the roster has suffered a consistent decline

Curious, is it this year's result only, or you consider previous years as well?

Americas:
EG
C9
MIBR
Reason: keep making the cheapest possible rosters without any interest in winning
EMEA:
BBL
GiantX
KOI
Reason: BBL are the worse Turkish team, KOI and GiantX are just making mid after mid rosters with 3% chance to pop off
Pacific:
DFM
Global Esports
Zeta/T1
Reason: complete and utter shit
Summary: these teams might still possibly improve but at the moment their stints in franchising have been utter disappointments with little to no hope

Based statement, and this is true for most initial switchers

No way US cannot field a top 3 team

What's even the point of them existing in franchising just to be shit

Average thorin interaction

I mean that's the case with most CS pros who left for valorant. Either not good enough to get the money in cs or too big of a bag in valorant

it is not a complete life changer, just when you get to 144 or 240 hz you just cannot go back to 60

liked the sacy speech, still felt like a huge meme knowing he will then go like 4-17

tier 1 - your majors, Cologne, Katowice, has all of tier 1 teams.
Tier 2 - no tier 1 teams
tier 1.5 - a couple of tier 1 teams mixed in with the best of tier 2, giving you this weird state of the event being somewhat relevant but at the same time being a mickey mouse cup.

I mean I still have cs over valorant, but I enjoy valo as well. RN cs is on tier 1 break, you only got tier 1.5 events but soon it will go with tier 1 event streak before a major in december

ex-teammate of chet in stanislaw, one of the only american talents in JBa, 2 imports from eu in susp and phzy and a south african sonic. IMO it's a solid team who, with tier 1 practice, will be a great representative for NA but I think they need a coach input

ascension, and after that other games. Kinda the reason why I am here, found Champs directly during Cologne Play-In ( tier 2 stage) and got interested in valo

Probably back to CS, a team like Wildcard could really do with a coach like him

the NA teams. even if the talent pool is reset, NA talent get the opportunity to scrim vs tier 1, SA won't have that

Anyone had these games, has this games and will have such games. Those denying this are either delusional, liars or both.

Yet Real still boasts one of the best benches in the world. brahim, guller, endrick, modric, alaba, lunin, are all great players. They have Carlo Ancelotti who is probably the best player manager ever, bro knew how to talk to everyone, from Zlatan and Ronaldo to James and Marcelo.
And losing players is also normal. They lost Ozil and Di Maria in 2014. You know what happened after that? 3 UCLs in 4 years

Worst trend ever, ruined football logos (Juventus as an example). The only esport simplification I liked were Fnatic, Gambit, Navi

I liked their 2018 Logo

I dislike Gentle Mates logo, looks like a fucking NFS Most Wanted spray on Volkswagen Golf

I think it's a promising sight, Sinners have wiped the floor with everyone at those quals, and Eclot with Unity have got a solid 3-1 (with their only losses coming in a bo1 stage). I generally like where cs is heading, Portugal is on the rise, LATAM, Brazil, Mongolia, Czech, hopefully NA, Sweden, France, China to follow

Oskar is the face of the scene, bro is like 32 yet shat on the entire RMR closed qual. And it all happened out of nowhere for everyone, just 3 Czech teams all thru. then you compare it to only one polish, two ukrainian and 4 russian and they seem like a huge outlier

I honestly feel like gege forced himself into the sukuna gauntlet by killing off all the evil except for ken+suk+uraume.

they basically all got washed, now
Snax is IGLing in G2 and TaZ is his coach
papito is a streamer
byali is retired/stremaing
neo is coach on faze
newer generation of players had a flash in the pan performance in Katowice 2024 (with gla1ve on ence), they have got some talent spread out tho, like ultimate making liquid a stronger team, siuhy leading young mouz to new heights, mhl being part of Talon in Oceania. Probably the other scene I think will pop is the czech scene, 3 fucking teams on the rmr is insane for such a small nation

true, but then you get places like Cologne or Katowice where german and polish teams are utter trash yet the fans still turn up.

trick question, fnatic won the two events before that and lost two games in a row in the upper and lower brackets so that makes them the biggest choker

all good brah

there are no stronger words you have ever uttered in your life than those which you meant when making this bet.

mickey mouse event by all standards, wait until Bangkok buddy

probably her and Kashimo are two characters who got completely shat on by the story. Both were hyped to be special grade level, yet both got shat on by a direct counter to them. Also speaking of wasted potential, you are telling me Kashimo, who is probably the fastest in the verse couldn't dodge the slash yet fucking Kusakabe blocked it with a sword and Miguel danced around that shit?

I mean it's quite underwhelming, like seeing 2 guys immediately sending sucker punches in a bar before a drunken ''fuck you'' ''no, fuck YOU'' exchange

it seems so underwhelming... Higuruma, Kusakabe, YutaJo still off-screen btw.
YET THEY SHOW THIS BITCH ASS WITCH GIRL, FUCK YOU GAYGAY

I dunno what the fuck navi are doing in valorant, NGL