navi is a cs orientated org, it's not even the region's fault, or who they sign, just no one in eastern europe gives a fuck about valorant

they just do good business, they got a fucking katowice winning team for mere pennies in CS, why wouldn't it work in val?
just their record in CS of transfers
apex - pennies - was benched on g2 for a long time
zywoo - almost free/free - young up and comer
flamez - free - contract expired
mezzi - pennies
ropz - free - contract expired
Having a core of 3 top 20 players + top 3 igl + a great support player for less than what some teams pay for 1 transfer is great business

cuz navi did lose clout after disconnecting from russia. but if they were to sustain this tie, then their image inside of Ukraine would be fucked, and , who knows, maybe would result in them getting sanctioned within their home country.

they should disband as an org so that my boy kscerato can join pain and make pain a top 5 team in the world

tough to win when your best player on the pitch just slips

val didn't distract the newer generation of gamers in eu. na cs lost all of their youth, russia lost players who would remain in tier 3 trash

cs slots are decided based on last major's performance, asian scene will grow when it is good enough to grow

g2 would have won that event regardless (due to Monesy god form, you are talking as if stewie was top 1). meanwhile tenz was probably one of the most consistent performers for sen

I have 0 complains about visibility in valorant or cs after i played arma and hell let loose.

boostio is a pug if I have ever seen one

I was so happy when I saw twistzz call falcons players ''fucking bots'', reject being respectful, embrace being a toxic cunt

since Azerbaijan 2023, pure Max hatred towards anyone else energy

his ass didn't prove shit last year, choked in Austria, Hungary, Monza, Brazil harder than the entire G2 roster throghout their whole lives

Mclaren > Red Bull
Max >> Lando

Zellsis, reportedly, did not wear the mask and didn't wash his hands during the quarantine.

I feel like this person who people write hate messages to doesn't really have a right to hate about it after she told zellsis that he should off himself

If you are getting offended over things said on the internet you should legitimately quit any human interactions on the internet itself

I mean yeah, I don't have a problem with most val fans, they just prefer the other game, but these type of fans are a cancer to any fanbase. May the valbros clear their community of this tumour

knew it was a rage bait after ''doesn't even look that bad''

shout out to all my ''racist'' and 'ableist' friends who throw around slurs when they see 50% of women and then chase the other 50% at night!

her face could single handedly block off two sites on Haven tbh

not even man enough to stand up for your words, xd

it's crazy how they don't realize that the easiest way to win against those type of fans is to just ignore them

bro got rage baitted by rainbow warriors on twitter. lol, lmao even

ohnepixel viewers are right, valorant fans are too soft

3 cuz 12 team event

it is less soft but sometimes more dense

ableist slur. I would assume you are russian by the flag, in russian when we use the word даун or долбаёб or ебанат, they all have the same meaning, but in english ''dumb fuck'' and ''retard'' are two different things

That obviously officialy states that g2 deserved to win - PlatChat

I feel like if they are not openly racist or extremely right wing (hello chrisj from cs go), then it is not a reason to hate them

They still have some ties to russia tho

senfangirls in shambles

thing is, navi doesn't want to be seen as an Eastern European org, they want to be more Western European. No more russian in their vlogs, prefer not to sign russians at all, they just isolate themselves from the Russians. Which is why a lot of Russians are now against navi

most of them are in CS, no one gives two shits about val in Ukraine, so navi haven't done anything to create a fan or playerbase there. The difference is insane:
CS NAVI: mentioned in Ukrainian Language books (texts about esport and their victory at the Copenhagen major), congratulations from Oleksandr Zinchenko (Ukrainian National FOotball Team captain), Volodymyr Zelenskyy (President), Ermak (head of the office of the government), 2nd biggest sports club in Ukraine (Only behind Shakhtar Donetsk, the current Champions of the Ukrainian Football Premier league)
navi valorant: 404

also true, them getting the fpx core was a massive W but then everything after that.... I am also 100% positive they got the fpx core just because of angel's nationality

koi are shit, m8s aren't partners rn, heretics are at minimum an A-tier team in EMEA

navi don't have any aura in valorant, I am sorry. CS, yes, val, no

as a fan of navi, I just do not think they deserve a vct slot. Their eastern european presence isn't nearly as huge as people think, their vct management has been lackluster, and their esports manager is making bad decisions even in cs

navi instead of heretics?

I am pretty sure the spanish football federation had to pay a fine for every time Lamine Yamal played after 10 pm during the euros in Germany.

I mean I obviously understand that, but isn't it possible to step over that rule by signing the deal with the parents? afaik cs teams do it if their player is under 18 (e.g. donk, monesy, mzinho, jimpphat). It is easier for cs pros since they go to events for a few weeks and don't have long leagues, but still

players under 18 not being able to play is such a dog shit rule

I mean he left recently, he is a solid player actually, not top 20 but i would put around top 40. It's just crazy to me how he stayed around for so long: https://imgur.com/a/t60c5Dr
just look how many players nip changed during rez' tenure with them :D

I am on it because of their CS roster, TYLOO WIN!

totally nothing to do with val, but i have a similar example. REZ from NiP in cs. Been there since 2016, org has been going down the shitter since forever, players changing constantly, going international, yet rez remained there until 2025. Reason? IEM Oakland MVP 2017! When he destroyed FaZe with niko! Which is now a reason for one of the oldest references in HLTV, respect the IEM Babylon 50 BC MVP

cuz some people like mediocrity

good changes, but I feel like tier 2 is already too far gone

disagree, if for 1.5 years you haven't won a single international, then I would say you got worse compared to other regions

I mean eu cs hasn't lost a single S-tier pro to valorant, meanwhile NA CS got massacred

I mean finally there is a french team which is like tier 1.5, 3dmax (maybe possibly going to gentle mates), but I feel like they are a few big guns away from becoming tier 1