Raze, Killjoy, Viper, Kayo, Jett

NGL Victor's gonna get offers for years to come even if he ever leaves NRG for whatever reason. He can fill pretty much any team comp

agent-wise, Chronicle

Role-wise, ngl it might be Marved. dude is always at his peak, gets put on igl duty and still performs.

In my opinion p1 is true.

If you learn more about how neural networks work in AI you'll find that the method to construct a machine-learning algorithm takes inspiration from the idea of neurons firing.

That being said, the concept of "experience" is an entirely different issue.

I can make a simple, one-way web of artificial neurons (Multi-layer perceptron) and teach them to recognize letters in an image, but I can't I can't ask it to draw those letters. It only recognizes but it doesn't understand.

You can make a multi-way web of neurons all firing at each other to remember certain patterns in images (Hopfield neural networks), but you can't "teach" it, only make it remember.

You can make have a self-teaching one-way web of artificial neurons that starts off doing something random, but who's success given a certain criteria (kills, score, items obtained) serves as a validation method to slowly change its neuron configuration to whatever maximizes that score. You can even teach it to draw something.

But none of these things have anything you could consider a conscious. You could try to combine them to mimic a human, which has already been done, but we know from the exact values of every neuron exactly what they'll do given any situation. Their responses are all mathematically calculated, and it's impossible to tell if they're really just experiencing something or if its just a machine following the precise instructions we gave it.

Furia just had coaching issues + EG and SEN got bettter. MIBR just became dumpster fire idk.

Leviatan just hasn't changed since the beginning of the split, they're still playing the exact same comps, doing the exact same identical things every time on every map. Teams just learned to read them.

I'm not saying they're good right now, I'm saying they're practicing to become better than everyone else in the future.

Call it cope but I think Onur is playing for the long run here.

He's trying to make his players as disciplined as they possibly can, and drill into them the most efficient protocol for every situation so as to play perfect valorant.

While they may be predictable for now, the more protocols that Onur teaches them, the harder they'll become to counter even if predictable, and eventually they'll be able to choose between multiple protocols to throw off their opponents.

It's gonna be like 2016 Korea in League of Legends. Minimum aggression, maximum efficiency.

LOUD, C9, and NRG are going to tokyo, 100% I've never doubted them

do people hate him as much in brazil as people hate dasnerth in NA?

oh I see, they should collab im not gonna lie

the ultimate cancer duo

is otsuka a shotgun only radiant?

still their map pick, doesn't matter if they're good at it or not it's what they picked. double standdards much

yeahh yeahh i wonder what other team at the top of their league keeps getting into dumb overtimes with bottom barrel teams on their first map

their strength is their teamwork, individually they can't hard carry a game. except for crashies and victor but that's only ocasionally and not consistently enough

https://www.vlr.gg/204985/team-strength-by-individual-players

https://www.vlr.gg/204985/team-strength-by-individual-players

subreezy my motherbord arrives on tuesday i wont be ble to play premiere :(

find a replacement

I said Xeppaa was S tier. None of you see the potential in these players. He's the 2nd best player on C9

Yeah how bro lol. The majority of its users will be valorant smurfs, people in their main ranks won't try it out to the same extent.

It's not a good business scheme unless the house wins as a whole, and in this scenario there's going to be too many people winning and not enough people losing.

Twistzz has that headshot aim, he'd do well

FNS came from the 90s

Yessirski has the finnish sniper genes

Yay and vanity got kicked out of C9 2 weeks before the loud match

nAts dropped 30 on chamber? 6 first kills?

Who do you think was C9's roster against Loud lmao

With a week of practice with their new roster which included 2 tier 3 players

NRG is one of the only teams with a chance IMO, not necessarily because they're better than other teams, but because they're the absolute best team at anti-stratting and building preparation against strong teams. There's never been a team that NRG/OpTic couldn't beat in a rematch after all.

Especially now, when Fnatic has a whole bunch of vods available, I think is when NRG is at their strongest.

I wouldn't doubt an NRG upset at Tokyo

LOUD has a chance due to being their own superteam which they proved at the lockin grand finals.

As for C9 I trust McE's ability to provide the same level of prep work as Chet against international opponents

After replacing Russ with Yacine, and now bringing in Wolfen, I'm scared of who Barbarr might replace him with.

mate, seriously, get past diamond and you'll realize how little the disparity in aim is

Yessirski is biased obv but so am I, overall hes a good finn

m0nte throwing my NA games fr

bro yelled his name out like he's shouting at Griffith

honestly, looking at Niesow's clips nowadays, they don't really seem that sus tbh. i really wanna believe he was just too good for his era

this is why valo better. chinese spyware in my pc = hardly any cheaters = only 1 pro has ever gotten seriously accused of cheating

Ok this is a fair argument

honest question, what rank are you?

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That was all the way back in Lock-in. They've been running a different comp ever since. Also yeah maybe that would've been the case lol

You're using 1 example from lockin that they never used again, and 2 other isolated examples. I said they're not experimenting "enough" not that they aren't doing so at all. I'd like them to at least try an EMEA comp or something similar.

There's a lot of inspiration to draw from with proven results.

Take split for instance, it's only Americas that run that double duelist comp, EMEA runs raze breach cypher,

and it's not just any EMEA team, FNATIC runs that comp. Pacific is all over the place when it comes to comps, but some of those comps have managed to get close games against DRX and in one case won against them.

There's still a LOT of room for experimentation in this meta. Imagine how good EG would be if they ran exclusively EMEA comps and never scrimmed anyone else. I think that's something worth trying out.

Crashies

This is not to say that EG isn't good, the team they currently have is incredibly good, but the whole 10 man roster thing is not going to work out for them the way they intended.

The whole point of a 10 man roster is being able to scrim yourself, be able to hide strats from other teams and prevent counter-stratting as much as possible while experimenting as much as you possibly can with no limit.

EG so far has not experimented enough, they're just playing the same standard comps as everyone else, and as a result of other teams scrimming each other against the exact same comp, they already know how to play against it. In these situations EG only loses in the end because everyone else has practice against a bunch of slightly differing styles with the same comp while EG only gets practice against one.

Their main roster is good already the way it is, they don't need to waste more resources into trying to make this backup roster work if they're not going to capitalize on its main advantages.

They denied scrims from NRG ffs, if they want to be good then they need to play against the best or try to figure out a strat amongst themselves that can challenge the best and switch up the meta.

THAT WAS THE SEXIEST 2-4 I'VE EVER SEEN, THAT WAS SOME FNS LEVEL OF MIDROUNDING

Tbf he had never touched the game before, so the roles that T1 gave him are technically his comfort roles lol

I like watching FNS play ranked games.

Since his aim is so horrible and his teammates are...typical ranked teammates and not the squad he scrims with, it lets me learn how to improve at the game without having amazing mechanical skill; his util usage, his positioning, his individual reads and what he does to capitalize off of it is all incredibly logical and refined.

The fact that he's radiant despite his aim makes me think he's the best player to genuinely learn valorant from, since if you watch people like TenZ he'll just take a lot of bad duels but win them anyways, which is something 90% of us can't replicate. With FNS, however, there's logic to his every play and decision, which is something capable of being studied and replicated with enough effort.

I feel like at first, T1 was still basically playing with NA strats in APAC, because most of their players came from the NA scene and until they relocated to Korea they were scrimming NA teams.

But slowly, over the course of the season, and as they've been scrimming more and more apac teams, they've begun to feel like an APAC team in the way they play, the comps they run, etc.

Ironic coming from the guy spilling his heart into his reply. Take a breather dude.

I'm only talking in this thread cus someone keeps reviving it and I dont care enough about this high school drama of a controversy to want to keep seeing people talk about it as if it's the end of the world.

I know, i'm just explaining why he never liked that name

That's what T1 thought too.

Basically Sayaplayer was his name in the Overwatch league too, but when he switched to valorant and joined T1, they made him change his name to "Spyder" because Sayaplayer didnt sound good enough.

Once he got dropped by T1, The Guard picked him up and he changed it back

nah dont go there, Saya hated that name

If you go back in time, there has always been a select few people that cement their name so prominently in history for their achievements that everyone after them tried to mimic them.

In Rome it was Caesar:

Not only were future emperors after Augustus named Caesar, but if you look at the title for "Emperor" in Germany and Russia, Kaiser and Czar, both are derived from "Caesar".

In CS:GO, long ago, there was once a legend that defined Brazil in tactical FPS, he was a terminator who could enter a flow state so powerful that he could create the most miraculous and awe-inspiring clutches; He was a CS God. His name was Coldzera.

Zera doesn't mean anything, but the impact Coldzera's left in CS, and subsequently valorant as a result of all the former CS pros in the scene, his name still lives on in the IGNs of those that looked up to him back in the day.

Cloud9 and OpTic have two of the most iconic logos in all of esports, and they're that perfect blend of simplistic but meaningful and aesthetically pleasing that really serve their purpose as symbols of their orgs the best.