TSM
Shopify Rebellion

as zeta is straight up smurfing rn

best water no cap

have actually tried it before.

NA:
C9
100T
NRG
SEN
EG dont have shit going for them

EMEA, despite having no fully confirmed rosters yet
FNC
TL
NaVi
KC
Everyone else doesnt have any real moves tied to them and their rosters rn are meh at best

Comparing SEN to euro teams as well in context of roster moves id put them behind every team I named except maybe KC. So 4th NA, 8th between NA and EU. Probably around 12-16 bringing in APAC and rest of Americas

Flair.

where was the rumor of this even happening? Nobody is signing Botdell

He'd be lucky to even be picked up by an ascension team.

i know my high school had talked about it but i don't think they ever actually went all in, idk i graduated like 3 years ago

W

C9BW - should be the best team in NA
100TW - strong 2/3rd competitor between them and NRG, Cryo if he meshes well i'd lean towards top 2, could give C9 run for their money
SENL - I dont expect them to be TOP of the Americas but atleast improved from their 2022 form.
NRGW - idk about dominant but they should be top tier, top 4 in AL

NRG vlr users rise up

bump for gigabrains

VLR called it, thread was fire

its the september 11th for teenage white girls i saw someone say on twitter

They honestly not wrong

as he then gets 13-4'd by Team Ethos

Bdog
Skuba
Oxy
Drone
Zexrow
Eeiu
Snirot
Okeanos
V1c
Mocking
Nismo
Aproto
Just to name a few

potentially, it depends on where each roster wants to go.
so far we've seen
C9 - Curry, Mitch
100T - Will
NRG - Eeiu Ethan Hazed Tex
EG - none
SEN - Kanpeki, Zellsis, Shroud

The only people that I can see making it back into a team somehow here.

Zellsis, going to C9 basically confirmed
Eeiu, Will, and Ethan are all Tier 1 talent,
Mitch strong maybe
Tex, Kanpeki, Shroud, Curry, Hazed all to T2

Yay debateable best player ITW
Undisputed best Chamber/Duelist ITW

Ardiis is a top 3.

But as #36 said, stop nitpicking stats just to push your narrative.

Yeah I agree 100%, really sucks just considering I personally loved our core but I knew this was gonna be coming considering theres still alot of better players on paper than them.

NRG to Champs 2023

As an NRG fan I kinda agree with this point, but most of them are good enough to still be on a Tier1 team, if not, they'll destroy in T2 Ascension for sure.

But objectively Optics core ARE the better players historically. They're a top 3 core ITW besides Loud, FPX. Any org would be stupid not to try and sign them.

Definitely Zander would be a huge pickup. Could maybe let Pujan Parkinsons actually focus on aiming more then. Like look at Dephh and Ayrin who co-IGL.

Supamen has always been solid but LCQ always is his time of year. |

Marved between the 3 might be the best player overall historically plus with the chemistry but we aint heard much about him even making Franchising sadly. Cause I'd love to see him on NRG as well.

people would rather think about sentiLULs, 100T Cryo, and the C9 superteam atm when it comes to NA.

EG and NRG aren't having much news right now so its only just now popping up

Honestly getting any of those top smoke players would be huge.

Jett. KAYO in the last 90 days
Has good reps on Raze and Sova historically.

they'll figure it out i'm sure

whether its moving xeppaa or zellsis to primary initiators full time or not. I think it'll be fine, Xeppaa already has time on Fade, picking up Sova and Breach won't be that hard I'm sure.

Leaf = Duelist/Flex if Yay duelist
Zellsis = Secondary Initiators/Sentinels flex???
Yay = Chamber
Vanity = Smokes

exactly.

Like in my opinion the Optic core is a great pickup, but we still need a smokes player and potentially a new chamber/duelist (depending on s0m move or not)

eeiu ~= crashies
fns > hazed (battle of boomers)
victor > tex/ethan

you're not only just wrong

you're wrong and stupid.

Dicey not even top 5 chamber in NA (debateable) whereas Ardiis is top 5 ITW.

s0m has literally played every agent for NRG through its history. He used to be smokes IGL early on even. They can find him somewhere comfortable.

I would not be opposed to that at all tbh. Dudes basically a slightly worse yay but still a top 3 duelist/chamber

s0m could go to CC, just because his FA has been announced is because yeah he either stays or theyre moving him off.

Only time is really gonna tell. Because either way 1-2 players other than the Optic core are gonna be added (depending on if they decide to keep ethan/eeiu/hazed as theyre RFAs)

Stopped reading at matrix

Yessir

Average dogshit matrix post

Honestly would be cool to see these plus 6th men for either current roster players or people having ideas to add fo that
Regarding this list though

EG, Valyn would IGL not Mitch
NRG, i could see them dropping s0m for CC

Possible 6th men for each team
100T Will
C9 NeT
SEN Sick
NRG Eeiu
EG Jawgemo/Sayaplayee, maybe Boostio?

Honestly seeing teams implement a 6th man would be really cool to see. Good thought process behind this.

Will we see it, only time will tell

FNS
Crashies
Victor
Dicey
Ethan
-Chet Coach

OR

FNS
Zekken
S0m
Ethan
Eeiu
Still coach Chet

Just drop Tex, Hazed, move S0m potentially to CC

-who for Cryo tho?

Probably so that their population can defend itself or be called upon in the event of war.

Or just promoting people being active idk. breaking your leg wouldn't prevent it only delay it as many countries who have NS have it as a requirement to do atleast a year or two. Jingg already put it off for a year or so.

trialing doesnt always mean its 100% signing

Maybe not all right now or in the early signing period but between now and February, the only teams i can see not changing more than half their core (3+) realistically are.
LOUD
100T
C9
PRX
DRX
TL
FNC
ZETA

But outta specifically NA again, 100T would be most likely to field basically the same roster.

EG = solid team but youd be insane to keep them all if you expect to ever get out of NA purgatory from last 2 seasons. Theyd be basement dwellers of American League with this lineup, at most anyone of Jawgemo Aproto, Boostio. But everyone is upgradeable

NRG = would also be a bottom feeder with their currently standing roster, Eeiu and Ethan would be the only real keepers. Sure theyre coming off top 4-6 performances but Tex, Hazed and W streamer are all either inconsistent or consistently mediocre.

SEN = can say this just like the other 2, current roster would be sitting in mediocrity in America, TenZ is still good and i dont see them giving up on his buyout unless he falls off the face of the earth. SicK is a huge question mark coming off his time away. Everyone else expendable.

I list C9 as a team that wouldnt drop more than half their core, simply because why would they? The chaos core of Xeppaa, Vanity, Leaf. Are consistent enough in being a top 5~ in their roles in NA to where i feel like theyre safe.

The actual Teal Seam team is technically "FaZe academy" allegedly. Because they were signed to be an academy team for some org but it was never officially announced.

However the "Team Seal 1.0" team at Toronto LAN is likely just a buncha players that picked that name because 4/5 of them are ex-TS.

Not actually gonna be a team afterwards I'm pretty sure with Xeppaa being in C9 and players like NeT likely going to make franchsiing

oh yall down bad bad

doesnt surprise me with this being vlr.gg

They're good but its also super early in the season so I wouldn't jump out to saying that. Should be an easy NFC East title though.

I try my best to be one of the people here that isn't a consistent dumbass.

We are a rare vlr breed apparently.

Title.

Would be an upgrade for sure.

not in order but
FNS
Dephh
Vanity
Valyn
Poised

as of right now speaking
HM: Hazed, Zander, Boostio.

Would argue that all of them RIGHT NOW either beat shaz in calling or fragging, if not both. Their teams all do better with the exception of V1 and EG (arguable, they had the better 2022)

doesnt deserve hate but he's a mediocre player and IGL these days. SEN can do better.

0/8

not even top 5 IGLs in NA

we heckin love NRG

facts