Lol talk about present strength. Pubg china clears Korea. Bruh also who told Korea to not play the tournament that china plays or can't they? Even china clears in C's too.
And talking about overwatch same as your logic why even bring it in conversation then. Ow never got big in china had similar situation as Cs in Korea literally. Even dota 2 isn't popular in china. Not even top 20 game in china yet china does well.

It's close in league too. Kr just slightly better this year.

Bruh PNC is a 3 day exhibition event in PUBG lol. It isn't that relevant for actual international tournaments. And I am not really undermining Korea here before you think so. Pgc and pgs are the actual international tournaments that have bigger impact and value. And overall region strength Korea has been very weak for few years now. Dnw was the exception always carrying kr scene.

That's a bit too much. Strat for sure but don't know what would happen in actual match. But aims nah.

Dota 2 cn>>kr
Sc2 kr>>cn. Best region probably eu rn.
Mobile china far better. Heard mobile gaming is the most popular thing in china nowadays.

Pubg PC is dominated by eu region mostly and na. Korea isn't top 3 in terms of region strength.

Faker came into league in like 2013. eSports scene has been developing in Korea way before that. Korea is literally the starting point of eSports development. Obviously Korea will be good in eSports with such solid foundation from the start.

Bruh it's been too long. You win. It was actually fun debating and trolling. Thanks for your time. Also I don't hate kr teams. Just was saying don't overhype spg too much by downplaying other until they have achieved something. That's it bye. but yeah I do love Chinese eSports more but not really a chinaboo or whatever like those koreaboos obsessed with Korea.

Yeah fake ass half Korean. Connected to two countries lol. Also I have never obsessed myself with Chinese eSports like those koreaboos do. My favorite team for sure is edg but have never hated or downplayed other teams to hype edg up like the koreaboos. Bro left Korea but left his brain too. Who knows you probably have no culture of Korea left in you.

Lol again never did anything to be called a chinaboo or whatever you are saying. Also called you fake ass half Korean not koreaboo. Acting all Korean after leaving his country for na lol. Looks like after leaving Korea for na you lost your iq and brain too. You look like a loser pathetic American acting like a Korean now after leaving the country.

Haven't anywhere downplayed other teams or hated on other or get this heated for Chinese teams lol. Yeah I do love cn eSports as they are fun to watch and are easily best overall in eSports. At least not like you a half ass Korean after leaving Korea showing superior complexity to other and bashing on other people and teams. Feeling sad for geng that they got a fan like you. You should stay in America and stop getting involved in Korean things. Fake ass half Korean.

Bruh just was saying not to overhype spg too much by downplaying t1 teams. It will just hamper spg more. Also never undermined spg achievements in t2 rn anywhere in my comment. Actually learn to read. Lol also a half ass Korean acting like he knows about everything. Stay in America you dumbass lol getting heated for Korea after leaving the country.

Bruh I have never actually disrespected geng achievements at all. And yeah I love edg fpx but also love sen , prx and even t1 too which is a Korean team by the way. also calling cn better than kr in overall eSports is a fact rn lol not a way of disrespecting Korea. Just from what I have experienced with weebs and koreaboos or Koreans in internet and valo community thought you were one of them as you were this heated about random kr t2 team. Again yeah let's stop the debate here. You just seem a genuinely good guy not those koreaboos. Gl to vit and sayf.

Also don't get this heated for a random t2 kr team. Show this much passion for eu or vitality. I guess you must be Korean or a koreaboo so you do as you wish.

Yeah I overreacted to your comments IG. But again my original comment wasn't directed towards you at all and my comments about them bring overhyped by downplaying other teams has been directed towards people who were doing that. So again calm down bruh.

Again bruh calm down and read my above comment again. "But again my comment is directed towards those that have been underrating and downplaying t1 teams to hype spg rn." You see what I have been saying. Also your comments indeed look like you are overrating them a little but again my original comment was for those that were downplaying t1 teams to hype spg.

Bruh scrims aren't really good measure of teams for actual events. Yeah mechanically scrims can show how good the team is but again there have been many examples like geng in scrims but exact opposite of geng performance in actual event. Scrims can't really show the full picture of the team. also haven't I already said that I never called spg bad or not even able to show some competition in other comments. You need to calm down a bit and not get heated like this. Looks You really do love spg too. Maybe you are half Korean ig but yeah calm down a bit.

Also my original comment was maybe a bit harsh. Yeah prx especially at their state rn won't win that easily. But again my comment is directed towards those that have been underrating and downplaying t1 teams to hype spg rn. This will just create problems for spg rather. So yeah hype your team but don't downplay other or overhype them before they actually achieve something at that level.

And guess who won madrid???

I still think any top 3 team from any region will win against spg from what they have shown so far. Also that's not overrating when prx even in their low have shown what they are capable of. Also it wasn't for just you but many are downplaying t1 teams to hype spg rn. Just let spg win this event first. Also scrims are always a very different thing. Like edg were getting destroyed in champs scrims but we saw what happened in actual matchups.

But in actual match I don't see spg win against top level of teams of pacific like drx geng or even prx rn with what they have shown so far. I never said they are bad or can't show some competition but overrating them this much isn't good for even them. Let them win ascension first and show it themselves if they are capable enough in t1. I feel like some of you guys are underrating t1 top teams too much.

Already better than Japan in their first year tbh even if you don't count edg. Like it's crazy even after throwing man advantage rounds Chinese teams are able to win as well.

How was sunset not a throw tho? Also yeah it's t2 so it's expected but riddle coordination and macro has been so bad. Riddle for sure threw some really important rounds especially in sunset.

They aren't overrated for t2 level but some people just based on scrims are rating them higher than t1 top teams is crazy. Do you actually think that even if spg wins ascension, they will beat geng, drx, prx like teams rn?

They are good but some people are underestimating top level t1 teams too much. Let spg even win ascension first before overhyping them so much.

Bruh you think this spg has better mechanical skills than heretics or prx? Let them play a real match against prx or any top 5 team from any region maybe except for china I bet you that spg won't win. Also mechanical skills isn't even 30% of what's required to win a game at t1 level.

Scrims are a very different things lol. Teams just play scrims to try different things and practice.

Yeah there is a reason why different comp from the standard ascent comp don't work that well for long time in t1. No one of these t2 teams so far have looked good enough to beat top 6 of t1 pacific. They could beat some t1 teams tho on their day.

Prx will easily win bruh. People really underestimate t1 teams especially those at the top. Only g2 has been the exception from t2. Spg or riddle any team in pacific hasn't looked good enough to beat top 6 teams of t1 pacific so far.

True this comp is perfect for team like prx especially in ascent where they have been weak but again roles and agent pool affects them. But still it's just t2 tho will be very hard to find same success against t1 teams.

Bro is very good igl. Joxjo igling looks rather weak. Also spg team coordination also looks really good. Riddle needs to work on their coordination and macro.

The team play was horrible tho. Don't know how they communicate in that team but in men advantage they have shown very bad coordination this match. Even before that 4v1 they lost a 2v1 and also looked horrible in men advantage rounds. Margaret played that well especially last 2 kills but riddle play was also horrible for 4v1.

Yeah shouldn't have reached that point in a 4v1 at all.

That was nowhere near fine bruh. Last 2 kills were good but shouldn't have reached that point at all. Now they lost the map too just cause they lost a 2v1 and 4v1 on match point b2b.

Can't lose so many man advantage tho. This map Riddle in man advantage has looked so bad. They lost a 2v1 before that 4v1 too on match point.

Riddle happened. What a throw in a 4v1? You can't lose such rounds if you want to win bruh.

Bruh riddle has such a big problem when they are in man advantage. They give so many solo fight and don't play together at all.

Double elimination indeed better than single elim. Makes the event more entertaining in my opinion. Especially the lower bracket runs go crazy.

Chronicle is still really good and Leo is likely playing as well.

Player quality for china is better. Even Chinese t2 players are far better than best indian pros and this is just the starting phase too. India needs some PUBG type popularity for valo. It will take some time tho I guess like 5-6 or even a decade for indian society to accept eSports like china or Korea does.

It's cause south Korea eSports scene is so developed. eSports literally developed from there. They are way ahead of almost all countries in eSports foundation. Only china as a country is somewhat better than Korea in overall eSports. As a region eu is better tho but is comprised of many countries.

Just based on individual alone china t2 clears India t1. Sorry to say the truth.

Fps games most likely won't be in Olympics cause they are violent and bloody. That's the reason I saw being mentioned.

Lev got destroyed too by th. Th is just too good rn. Also th are literally the worst matchup for edg cause both have the same map pool. Edg would have better chances against both sen and Lev with the map ban advantage but not th.

Nah man Heretics fans starting to act like those new prx fans.

Don't think valo will ever become like league tho. League got too boring cause of only 2 regions or like 4 teams competing for trophies again and again so I hope that never happens in valo.

Damm wasn't watching sliggy today. Good coincidence. But what I said is indeed from sliggy. Heard him mention this in edg game against sen I think. And seeing edg 2nd round and icebox eco loss was painful.

They would be so much more scary if they improved their anti eco rounds. Hoping they can improve it and it's not even that hard thing to improve.

Looks too strong for defense no? The ults look so hard to face against in attack.

Didn't see the Jett diff from aspas you are talking about. Tex was their best player in ot