Learn from trace or pay trace to teach them how to improve their discipline and fundamentals cause it's so crazy how good trace discipline and fundamentals has been considering they are a Chinese team.

Fpx really needs someone to help them improve their discipline and fundamentals for sure. They are like old prx or edg who used to rush too much and we're overaggressive in even advantageous rounds. Prx and edg still do it sometimes tho especially prx.

I think they could get an assistant coach and still keep Nathan d as the head coach. He just overcooked today and maybe they could get someone to help improve their fundamentals too.

Especially when against th they were winning just choked and made individual mistakes in last few rounds. Fpx has even beaten geng in this map. It was so stupid to change comp last minute.

I think fpx should get a assistant coach or someone who can help improve their fundamentals and maybe get a mental coach too. I honestly think they got comp diffed both maps today. Their coach has cooked amazing ideas but overcooked so much today. Especially when life is so good in many duelist roles playing solo yoru in bind and no duelist is just not it.

Does India even deserve a single spot in vct pacific? Let's start this debate now. China slot debate is too old.

Man fpx coaches are fraud based on this series alone. Why all of a sudden in a elimination match do they change the comp and no proper preps too.

Lol what a stupid analogy. Fpx just played too good against both th and geng in their games. Fpx rn are rather playing poor and sen is playing well too.

Fpx overcooked with their comp and map selection I think. Bind was always a strong map for sen majority of the time and the fpx solo yoru comp was always hard to play and then no duelist comp in lotus too.

Mechanics at this level aren't anywhere enough to win bruh. Valo is too macro and fundamentals heavy.

Nah geng map pool is just too strong and they don't overcook with comps like fpx and are very stable.

Fpx overcooking with their comps. Bruh who thought of playing this comp now? Also that bind comp also needs to change especially when life raze is so good.

Bruh what's this comp? They overcooked it too much. Solo yoru when life raze is good in bind and no duelist in lotus is too bad bruh.

Nah fpx comp is just so hard to play on attack against this sen comp. Don't know why fpx picked bind.

Might have played worse. nobody can say what would have happened.

Hard to actually rank with how competitive it has been tbh. Th I would say are the most top 4 worthy rn. While we will need to still see more from other teams.

Maybe if they didn't have tech issues they would get destroyed more and maybe they would lose heaven too. Who knows man what would have happened.

It's really crazy how good trace discipline and coordination is in advantageous rounds considering they are a Chinese team. Even edg who improved their discipline so much still has some of those overaggressive and overcommitted rounds.

Hard to say if he is insulting or complementing g2 lol.

Edg still has that over commiting nature of Chinese teams in their blood. It's crazy how good trace discipline is considering they are from vct cn. That 3 solo swing on bind was so dumb. Still so much better from how they were in madrid and sanghai.

Chinese team bro. Except for trace overaggressive solo plays is in their blood.

Is this actually the first time that qualifying for playoffs being #1 in group stage has no advantage at all or even slightly disadvantageous considering how tough the competition has been and so many upsets? Don't remember group stages of all other champs rn.

What?????? Are you talking about lev fnc matchup? Insane duelist that we can't match up and a fragging igl???

I too think kru can beat fnc especially if fnatic look like how they looked today against kru. Kru Abbys is equally bad as fnc tho. So fnc map pool might diff kru

Fpx, zeta and whichever team aspas is in.

Looks like Fnatic is never gonna reach their peak form again. I feel like Leo won't be joining the team back next year. Just a feeling tho.

Don't be giving that excuse now. Just move on. Th just was better at the end. Similarly even miniboo hasn't been shooting like how he could. Sometimes such excuses from couple of fans makes a whole fanbase look bad.

Yeah fnatic are. With how fnatic team play was looking today I won't be surprised if kru beats them if fnc don't improve from today. Fnatic today was really bad just saved by Alfa and pistols otherwise abyss wouldn't have been close either.

Whoever was saying fnc is back to their peak form last year never watched them play last year ig. This fnc has looked better than how they were looking this year before stage 2 but nowhere near how good they were last year individually or team play wise.

Do you think Leo will return back to this roaster and do you think fnatic with Leo will reach their peak form again? Not overthinking cause of this series but I just get a feeling that if fnatic don't make a deep run this champs they will make some changes in the roaster for next year.

Do you guys think this fnc roaster is ever gonna reach their peak form again? Their coordination and individual form is still so off from time to time. And I get a feeling that there will be some changes in the roaster next year.

I don't think fnatic ever reaching their peak form of last year again especially in their coordination and individual form. Even after hiro addition they have looked better but still look so off from time to time.

Fnc abyss looks horrible. Might become a problem for them later on if they don't improve it. Their attack side is so weak considering how much attack sided this map is.

Th vs fpx clears in terms of entertainment

Don't argue with him. This guy was spamming comments in vct cn chat asking them to apologize to faker lol. He is probably still very young. Don't take him too seriously.

"We still haven't forgotten what you guys did" lol bro stop acting like a 9 year old kid when you are already a 13 year old teen. Grow up you are already a teen.

Which are the top 5 most entertaining teams in vct for you? Mine are fpx, prx, edg, th and Navi. I generally find these teams matches the most entertaining.

Bind was their permaban till now so it makes sense and looks like they have no idea how to play on abyss too. No duelist in probably the most attack sided map rn.

He was 15-3 against buzz. Looks like he did his duelist job well. He just got traded a lot after his entry

Yeah tomorrow very boring matchups too unless trace can give us a surprise. Still gonna watch how primmie looks and obviously gonna watch aspas.

Both matches were quite boring. Drx kru was one sided every map and blg fnc only bind was decent but lotus was too one sided. Rather rewatch th fpx.

Bro said no aiming lol. You should go for an eye checkup. Might be some sort of blindness problem with you.

Global t1 teams don't make the mistakes blg made tho heck even most top t2 teams don't. Blg just choked many rounds in binds Is what I should have said I guess.

I just hope they improve their discipline faster especially life. Most people blame Berlin but actually life has been the most undisciplined player in fpx. He makes amazing plays but is too inconsistent. He also dies first a lot of time and makes so many mistakes.

That's the thing. I still don't understand why more teams like geng did don't try to that. Maybe play your own style and comps but I think Odin is too strong on lotus to not use it.

Not just blg bro literally look at fpx. They lost so many rounds yesterday just cause of over aggression and individual mistakes. Edg the only team with good discipline in china and even then their discipline isn't as good as the top global teams.

Apart from the igling or coaching problem I think their biggest problem is still their lack of discipline and inability to play together for God sake in advantageous rounds. Aren't these problems the easiest type of problems to fix? Who is generally responsible for fixing such problems in a team? Is it the coach or igl or all players themselves?

That too in probably the most attack sided map in vct rn.

What a delusion from a mibr fan lol. Are all mibr fans this delusional? Cause I haven't seen a single mibr fan before you.

Fpx just always too unlucky with the matchup.