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Eastern teams winning in western locations: 0/9
Western teams winning in eastern locations: 1/4
Eastern teams winning in eastern locations: 3/4
Western teams winning in western locations: 9/9
IMO timezone seems to make more of a difference than people tend to think.
The pinnacle of CN valorant outside of EDG is BLG beating NRG in 2023 twice.
10 for the west 3 for the east. Asian teams def win for sure
Based on recent form definitely no guarantee
That’s just disingenuous. Sure the util is annoying asf but it’s something every single team has access to and many are copying from g2. It’s not like they are just cheesing with something only they have access to. Regardless they deserve their flowers for figuring out the meta, coming up with solid Strats and imo the biggest part is their team play, discipline, and calling. Plus the fact that every single one of them can pop off at any time. For whatever reason people are suddenly reverting back to what people thought of g2 last year. If anything the uber overpowered neon meta was so much more ridiculous to watch. There’s absolutely nothing you could do when neon is sliding full speed with full accuracy. Almost every meta has had some form of BS. And the best teams find a good counter. People just hate g2 because they’re disciplined instead of over-peeking and throwing like their favorite teams do.
Broke: G2 playing the objective and winning almost every round that they have man advantage in.
Woke: teams like PRX sending it. Swing that shit. Lose half the rounds with man advantage they get.
I think it’s mostly to do with the fact that Trent and leaf are clearly playing a level above what they were last year. I always felt like Trent last year was not playing as well as he can. I think he’s just playing to his potential. Same with leaf in his second season on sentinel. That plus the huge upgrade of icy to jawgemo. It’s almost like they leveled up 3 players and built more chemistry AND now they have Anderz. Definitely not like optic. Who btw, were frying before chamber too.
The only maps g2 lost in Bangkok playoffs was in the grand final. People are tripping if they think a g2 loss means anything but c9 is probably really good. Or just regular season c9 things.
G2 is too drilled for the prison Valorant c9 wins with. IMO NRG game is closer than c9 scoreline is gonna be.
Honestly really happy to see the only real latam team doing so well. +kingg -adverso and kru is the first real latam super team imo.
What I don’t really understand is why put forsaken on waylay? Sure he used to be the Jett for prx but he’s an insane flex. Let something play waylay and forsaken will have a way better initiator.
“One good game to glaze a mid NA player” it’s a player that was a perennial top 5 player in the world for multiple years. He's showing plenty of examples that he is just as good as he was then. Yeah sure it’s one game. He showed plenty during kickoff too. It’s not based on one game. It’s showing a similar form to what we saw for 2 years straight. He was insanely consistent for multiple years. On the flip side, how come a legend of the game showing glimpses of his past brilliance has so many people angry that they’re getting shut the fuck up? What’s with this seething hatred? You need your fantasy of yay being shit to be true for your happiness or what? Straight up rent free.
T1 sucks ass at abyss. They came up with a wacky comp to catch g2 off guard and maybe pull out the win. The minute they didn’t get 10 on attack it was over.
Western teams in Valorant don’t just dominate—they redefine the game with their unparalleled tactical brilliance, cutting-edge infrastructure, and a talent pool so deep it’s practically an ocean of genius, effortlessly churning out players who blend jaw-dropping creativity with lightning-fast adaptability to every meta shift. Compare that to Asian teams, who cling desperately to their stiff, outdated strategies—robotic, predictable, and frankly uninspired—shackled by a cultural obsession with conformity that suffocates any hint of originality. While Western organizations pour obscene amounts of cash into futuristic training complexes, top-tier coaching, and analytics so advanced it’s borderline sci-fi, Asian squads limp along with their rigid playbooks and stagnant mindsets, leaving them utterly exposed to the West’s relentless innovation. It’s not just superiority—it’s a masterclass in evolution, proving the West isn’t just ahead; it’s rewriting the rulebook while the East scrambles to catch up.
Why’s everybody so bothered by him complaining about the timezone? Any region it’s unfavorable for there are people complaining. And it’s 100% a mistake for the last 3 events to be Asia timezone. There’s literally 4 regions. Why not just rotate every event? Not hard. Just do China, Americas, Pacific, EMEA. arguably still more favorable for Asia because pacific and China are almost the exact same timezone and eu/na are like 8 hours apart. In 2021-22 Iceland to Berlin to Berlin to Iceland to Copenhagen to turkey was Annoying af too. Just rotate it. It’s literally the fairest thing. And to say otherwise would just be extremely egocentric the same thing you’re calling Americans for having to get up at 2 am to watch masters for the last year lmao.
Korean overlords are still on their way. Trust. Started in 2021 when nuturn went to masters Iceland, with everyone saying that nuturn were going to dominate. Fast forward to 2024 and they make their first actual grand finals appearance with Sen beating them through lowers. Then GenG win Shanghai. EDG win champs. And now we are finally able to twist results to fit our narrative. TH historically choke 2 grand finals wins and that means the EAST is taking over. Now in the big 2025, Madrid is the last event NA is winning for a while. Koreans are just harder working. NA league, I mean valorant pros don’t put the work in to compete with the 23 hour days Koreans and Chinese put in. They’re too lazy to keep up. It took 4 years but G2 is done. The west is done. T1 3-0. Oh g2 destroyed first map? No response til something happens that fits my Asian bias narrative.
I’m not talking about Chinese fans. I’m talking about the reaction of Chinese fans towards non-China fans shitting on EDG. super sensitive and defensive. That’s what happens when you lose. People will talk shit about them. But they act like it’s a hate on the whole of China when someone like myself (g2 fan) says EDG suck or something along those lines. I see way too many comments about China getting unnecessary hate. But when it’s na or emea or even apac getting eliminated there’s tons of shit talk and nobody is whining about the shit talk. Snowflake reactions honestly.
EDG lost—no surprise they’re gonna get shit on for not living up to expectations. While every team gets criticized after a loss, China faces the lightest of heat; G2, Vitality, or T1 would’ve been torched. Overreacting Chinese fans need to chill on being so sensitive about criticism. It’s not a personal attack on your “motherland”.
“G2 probably wins 3-1 but if T1 steals a map G2 still wins map 5”. I think G2 wins 3-1. But if it’s 2-2 by some miracle of god gifting T1 an extra map, G2 wins map 5.
Fracture is G2s new perma since the EDG loss. And G2 is better on Lotus. I think haven/split are 50/50 for g2. You may be right and g2 ban haven instead of split. I just wonder how g2 feels about it. Their split looked good last time but has also looked weak before like against Sen. if they keep split and prep for it I think g2 getting a 3-0 might be possible with split as T1s first map pick.
G2 has spent the last 3 years grinding non-stop. They have had so many obstacles to overcome. The core of 3 sticking together is super cool to see. Bombing out of Iceland after coming out of nowhere to win NA, growing as players and as a team. Having to grind through ascension. Having to find a new org when they won ascension. Bombing out of kick off last year only to make top 3 at Shanghai. I want to see their years of hard work finally pay off. G2 deserves to win.
G2 ban fracture and split
G2 picks abyss
T1 picks haven
G2 picks lotus
T1 picks pearl
Bind remains
G2 win abyss 13-4
T1 win haven 13-11
G2 win lotus 13-10
G2 win pearl 13-10
G2 win bind 13-9
G2 probably wins 3-1 but if T1 steals a map G2 still wins map 5
Playing more to their potential. Probably the time on stage together has helped. T1 is a KR super team. They should’ve been excellent from the start but were rough in kickoff. A team with stax, buzz, and meteor should be a top team globally.
T1 is more of a Korean superteam than G2 is an NA superteam.
This. Put Zellsis on flex. His util is his most skilled trait. Put narrate on senti and let him do his best meteor cosplay.
The 2-1 where EDG had 2 extra weeks of prep, hard anti, and changed up their maps? Or the last match where they had equal prep and EDG couldn’t get double digits on either map?
Do either of these teams look like they’ll be able to win tomorrow? G2 double map ban, extra day of prep, and these teams showing a lot of their map pools especially if it goes all 5 maps. What odds does T1/EDG have? I think it might be like 70/30 for g2 with all the advantages.
I mean, I think Riot should just show equal interest in all 4 regions. But it definitely feels like they’re overly focusing on the east. Madrid was the last “western” tournament. The last year has been horrible time zones for NA viewers. IMO they should alternate. Do China then emea then apac then Americas then China etc.
China into apac into apac again was a mistake.
Ngl I think EDG loss was better for g2 than winning. Hard to find ways to improve when you aren’t getting punished. I think the EDG loss did a lot to show G2 where to improve.
G2 is gonna fundamental all over vit. They won’t be able to deal with the instant trades and perfect fundamentals.
I don’t know anything about Korea culturally. But would I be wrong in assuming they’re a bit more rigid and unforgiving when it comes to mental? A bit more of like a “toughen up” vibe? To the point that their solution would be “stop throwing” rather than looking for real psychological support. This just me making assumptions but that’s the vibe I get.
Honestly think this is better for them to end their run now. More time to try and fix whatever is going on. Same coach, same igl, same secondary caller, and yet they are making a lot of mistakes we didn’t see from Sen last year. Like refusing to go mid on abyss. Almost every time they went mid they won their attack. But they kept 5 man sending it onto sites over and over. Then they threw in OT and I thought they’d fix it. And they did it again. Idk what they’re doing tbh
Last year SEN would’ve fixed that shit during the timeout
I mean, what I heard on sliggy’s stream is they celebrated for 2-3 days only. Then that makes another 11-12 days to prep. This is all based on sliggys insight, which I trust. But according to him the time the other regions would’ve had, particularly emea and Americas would’ve only been 2-3 days with all the travel and media days. EDG had a total of 26 days between the GF and their first match. If we just assume they have the same travel time as NA(they don’t) and celebrate for 5 days (apparently they didn’t). Then the worst case scenario for EDGs prep time would be around 12 days-ish. That’s still 9-10 more days than G2/Sen. That is plenty of time to change everything they had. Which they clearly just about did. I’m not trying to take away from what EDG is doing. Because they do look insane. But to have a region with that much more time to completely change everything is a little wild imo.
EDG is very good. I give them props. I thought they were frauds and they are actually really good. I accept that I was super wrong. But i think people understate how much of an advantage it is to have more than double the prep time of every other region. Clearly trace didn’t take advantage of it. But clearly EDG did. They have changed every map we’ve seen. I hope for a rematch in playoffs with more footage and a more even playing field. G2 got guy diff’d but I think with equal prep this match is a lot more even. Especially given how anti heavy g2 are.
what? i don't even know what you mean by that. I am talking about how SEN didn't seem to prep at all. Their Lotus looked identical to Kick-off. Don't know what that has to do with VIT.
I feel like the only crowds that have cheered for every match has been LA, Istanbul, Madrid, Shanghai, and Tokyo. Brazil, Seoul, Bangkok seem pretty uninterested if it's not their team.
i think that too when i try to use my brain. Then i get a PTSD flashback to chronicle's blind spraydown. Hopefully they don't get diff'd by plot armor.
they changed nothing on their map pick and got anti'd hard and would lose haven to almost all of the teams at bangkok
completely disagree. after vit win abyss you'll see
apparently it was because they offer salaries based on the previous years performance. (like 2023 for the contract going into 2025) and derke wasn't carrying as hard in 23 as in 24 so his offered salary was a pay cut. So he said fuck that
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