Nivera is better on Controller in a non chamber meta. memset or kada on sentinel and your team is solid though.
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Nivera is better on Controller in a non chamber meta. memset or kada on sentinel and your team is solid though.
I'm basically counting every LAN as equal but slight up for champ wins and slight down for Lock In. That being said, if we're going by how successful they've been it goes
2a. FNS
2b. Saadhak
Ange1
Redgar
(Very similar in overall performance, Redgar had a higher peak but Ange1 has been more consistent)
Bonecold
Shahzam
(same accomplishments both can be in the same tier)
Stax
(most consistent to never win)
Benkai
Boostio
Main HM: Kingg, Klaus, Koldamenta
IDK how to phrase this but I feel like D3ffo for sure deserves another chance on a top team, but franchising might not be deserved after this past 2 years. Like if franchising wasn't around but someone like Sayf still got poached to TL, I would've loved to see him on Guild trying to qualify through to another LAN, but with franchised teams I just don't know if he should be on a top tier EMEA team rn. He for sure won't be signed to any of FUT NAVI FNC TL KC or BBL, and I don't think GIA will get him. So that leaves KOI TH and VIT for him which aren't the worst options but I feel like those teams probably will look elsewhere. I just don't know if we'll see him in T1 next year even though he deserves it from his '21 season.
Wow its almost like the player that plays more games in the tournament and goes farther against better competition will have lower ratings as he plays in harsher matches. Mak0 obviously plays good teams and does well but Optic played by far the most series of any teams in the world and had by far the toughest competition per match so of course Marved's numbers will be closer to 1 while Mak0 stands out since he's by far the best player on a good not elite team.
One stipulation is you can't take anyone from the current top 4 (APK ACE SAW or M8) and Max two players from one team
I'll go with
Duelist- Marteen
Flex: Kadavra/Wo0t(if he has good english)
Initiator: Unfake
Smokes IGL: Lowel
Sentinel: Afoxx
I'll also do one for Americas without any playoff players(Max 2 from one team)
Duelist: N4rrate
Flex IGL: Flyuh
Initiator: Verno
Controller: Skuba
Sentinel: Moose
ya but it's not a superteam if it's not a team. No team will win without an IGL, it's like making a "superteam" in basketball that has no player over 6'6. Even if Marved exceeds expectation you can't have a superteam without a top 5 IGL itw.
There's no such thing as a super team without an IGL, and you can't call it a superteam when their IGL was good before franchsiing but never really great, and their current team literally doesn't have an IGL so how could they be a "super team"
They've brought in 1, maybe 2 star level players since he has been signed. Like literally how many guys have become great that 100T has brought. They have one of the most overrated scouting departments. Since Asuna came in, I'm gonna do a hit rate criteria to show how good a player is, scaling from Superstar Potential, Good potential/player, Great but only for a short time, mediocre, Bad. They'll scale from Superstar as Tier 1 to Bad as Tier 5
All pickups
Dicey: Tier 3, Definition of a one trick pony
Hiko: Tier 4
Nitr0: T2 but knocked down to T3 because of his switch
Steel: Tier 3(I know he took them to LAN but since then he has not even been a top 15 NA IGL, it's time to face that it was a one off thing)
Ethan: Tier 1, first really really good signing but not even on the team anymore
Ec1s: Tier 5
Babyj: Tier 5
Jcstani: Tier 4
Bang: Tier 2, I don't think he'll ever be a superstar but his potential on smokes is high
Will: Tier 4(Had maybe 2-3 total good games with them as a star duelist I'm sorry guys)
Stellar: Tier 4(just a mediocre IGL at this point)
Derrek: Tier 3-4, not awful or anything but we know what Derrek is, a good not great initiator, you can likely find better but he's too good to just randomly replace
Cryo: Tier 1, superstar potential
He has played with or had 13 players picked up since joining 100T, only 15% have T1 talent, only 23% are even high potential players, and of those three players only 2 have played with each other at the same time. He hasn't had a really good IGL in what, a year and 3/4? In every iteration he's been a top 1-3 player on the team but he hasn't had a stable, good IGL, and his best player isn't even on the team anymore. If they had a roster of
Cryo
Ethan
Asuna
Bang
Insert Good IGL to play sentinel here
There would be no excuses for Asuna, but realistically every NA team has eclipsed 100T in finding superstar talent. Like EG has already built a championship contender, NRG has the greatest core of all time, SEN has 4 players that have at one point been the best at their role or just plain out best in the world and Zekken who may have the highest potential in all of NA. Hell even C9 with randoms from T2 is better because Runi is a better IGL than Stellar and they still have Leaf Xeppaa Zellsis who are world class players. 100T just struggles to make rosters that are amazing. If they really wanna win next year they need to give asuna one last chance with a team that has Trent or Verno and Valyn/Flyuh/Johnqt IGLing them, alongside literally any coaching staff at all. Asuna has never once been a problem for their team.
https://www.vlr.gg/event/stats/1189/champions-tour-2023-americas-league
dawg it takes two seconds to find this he was the definition of average and we know his potential is insanely high.
He was average, don't act like he was shit. He was an average player on a mediocre team. Like he literally has a 1.0 rating. He was player 26/50 in the Americas league in rating of players >300 matches. His Viper is still the top rated in Americas and top 5 in all of VCT. On Omen he's looked bad because on maps they play Omen they have a 40% win percentage with 3/4 wins coming on Haven. Now compare that to Supamen who was worse than Bang all last year, and since Stage 2 was the 2nd lowest rated controller of the top 8 teams. This is just an awful take lol.
supamen over bang dawg what is wrong with u
breach has been meta in only like 3 international events and FNS was the first person to make him look really good at a LAN. If this is all time Stax trumps him but DRX didn't even play Breach that much in 2021 and when they did they were losing. Skye isn't Crashies most played and he still gets it, same with Marved's brim and astra, Shao's fade, s0m's Harbor, Victor's neon, zyppan's Kayo. Most of these players on here aren't on their most played agents.
Completely forgot about that that's probably a good call
This is for VCT ERA so since 2021
Astra: Marved
Breach: FNS or Stax
Brim: Marved
Chamber: Yay
Cypher: Nats
Fade: Shao
Gekko: Cgrs
Harbor: s0m
Jett: Aspas or Cned
Kayo: Zyppan
KJ: Alfajer
Neon: Victor
Omen: Marved/Pancada/Mak0
Phoenix: Sick
Raze: Jingg
Reyna: Scream
Sage: Starxo(IDK who else you'd put)
Skye: Crashies
Sova: Crashies
Viper: Suygetsu
Yoru: Forsaken
Chronicle diffing Cned on Jett less than a year ago
s0m or marved over jawgemo for sure but otherwise pretty much perfect
I'm sorry I'm not gonna argue with someone who doesn't know how to use a period good lord dawg
If they won this tourney they'd have as many top 2 finishes as Chronicle has tournaments played at. Obviously they'd have to win and the odds aren't in their favor but those three would be far more decorated than any player in history, not even close.
Say they win this event, who between Crashies and Victor is called the best player of all time? I think FNS is obviously called GOAT IGL(probably already is) but it would be between those two, for sure overtaking chronicle or Yay in my mind.
Because Loud are and have been a much better team than DRX for a year now.
Navi has lost 5/6 how could u possibly still be making these lazy excuses for them
IGL isn't everything, they have some role and agent pool problems. Ange1 refused to have any player become good at skye and breach and now they're the 2 best initiators(or at least 2/3) in this meta. zyppan isn't good on skye, no one plays breach, and their duelist usually isn't great at Raze. Maybe if they added sayf and had Shao on skye more they'd be much better.
that's just how sports work dawg, literally this year an 8 seed made the NBA and NHL finals, a 7th round pick qb took a team to top 4 in the NFL, and a wildcard MLB team made the championship. Not to mention a team like Inter Milan making it to the champions league final. If you don't like this you don't like sports whether there's an E in front of it or not.
I think realistically you could put Sheydos or Nukkye in at sentinel instead of Alfa and be fine, and Suygetsu is still probably the better individual on the role. After that I really think the only one I'll give you is Sayf for Derke. Leo and Chronicle are so far ahead of the rest, and Ange1 and Redgar are fine but rn Boaster is out calling and more importantly performing at a far higher individual level that I don't think any of them are replaceable. Cloud is great, redgar and ange1 are great minds, but those 3 don't have anyone close, and IDEK who in emea has the closest agent pool to chronicle, maybe Atakaptan?
For sure
M80(I just don't see them not winning ascension)
Trent and Valyn and Flyuh should almost be assured
After that it gets really weird, how many spots in NA '24 are open? SEN and 100T IGL for sure IMO but that's Valyn and Flyuh. After that I feel like NRG and EG stay the exact same, and C9 probably isn't changing anything knowing how MCE runs teams.
From there SEN's roster looks set as long as they have an IGl, but if pancada and sacy leave it would just be Trent and Valyn. I also doubt Tenz or Marved are moved even if they had their struggles(Tenz at the start and Marved after he had to IGL)
Maybe Verno comes in for Derrek at 100T, but apart from that Asuna Cryo and Bang probably are and should be untouchable, even if Bang and Asuna had some lowlights at the end.
So of non M80 players? My bet is really on four players. Now if guys like Ardiis or Tenz get moved on from I can for sure see Yay or Tex back up into the big leagues, and maybe if Jakee isn't seen as the answer C9 can actually get Skuba this time, or if Marved wants to go back to content and stay in Canada Thief could get a shot, but either way I think 4 is the number we see with potential of maybe 2 more given random leaving players.
The ones to look out for most at each position I'd say (not gonna add m80 players)
IGL: Valyn Flyuh
Duelist: Tex Yay(back in T1 he can be a star)
Initiator: Trent Verno
Smokes: Skuba Thief
Sentinel: neT Aproto
Flex: JonahP Nature
The closest we'd get to a super team is
Tenz Duelist
Zekken Flex
Trent Sova
Valyn IGL
Marved
with one on smokes other spending literally all offseason learning kj and the new sentinel.
Atleast Denmark has Avova, look at the best german player lol. Luckerr? Musashi?
It's a great meta for them lol
Jett is the best duelist and Neon is relevant, they don't have a star chamber or raze
Skye and breach are the most played initiators, both Stax's best characters
Info initiators are weaker than usual, they don't have a high level sova/fade
Controllers are absurdly meta, they have the best ITW
KJ is the only good sentinel, Buzz is great on KJ
There hasn't been a better meta for them in ages.
Stax and Mak0 are the only ones whose roles really makes sense. Buzz I'm confident can play both duelist and KJ and even kay/o but he will eventually need to commit. From there, they don't have a star star jett player/awper and no one is proficient on info initiators. Just seems like even though Rb plays a lot of agents he isn't particularly special on any aside from Neon. He's the teams third best duelist, initiator, and second choice sentinel. It's cool that he can go from neon to astra to kj in a game but if that's not winning them matches and sometimes it's hurting them why force it?
no meddo yes Wedid
dephh
yay
meddo
zeek
sinatraa
zyppan is another example, one of the better players in the world, won a LAN, and has under 40k subs with no twitch. Dude plays the easiest character to farm content on and he's like top 3 in the world at it, just tweet and stream a bit more and if ur career somehow goes to shit you have something to fall back on.
That's why every notable esports player should set up some sort of stream or brand. The fact that a guy like Kiles won a LAN and speaks three languages yet has no stream archives at all is stupid. It's already worked out amazingly for the SEN roster and even the GMB guys who all have some sort of following.
Literally all they need to do is stop being stubborn and learn the intiators that are good. When they won they thrived because the only initiators you really had to know where kayo and fade, which shao and zyppan are number one in the world on in each. Now they're too stubborn to actually commit to having shao learn breach and skye and for zyppan and cned to expand their agent pools. Don't change up the roster, but cned needs to let zyppan play raze in favor of him either doing the demon1 brim thing.
well no one is claiming dgzin or heat are better than aspas and derke after less than 10 international games, and he played in the weakest region and he's a great player of course he'd look good.
You're basing this off of three games?
All I'm saying is Zest still performs better than RB has at LAN and he's been their oldest member bar stax yet they haven't won with him at any international event
Their new Lotus comp is undefeated and Loud outplayed them on bind. Their current form is much higher on Lotus, especially when Navi is 33% WR and doesn't have a set comp yet
NAVI Ban Haven (perma)
NRG ban Ascent (their worst, NAVI best map)
Navi pick Pearl
NRG pick Lotus
Navi ban Bind
NRG ban Fracture
Split Remains
This pool likely favors NRG but we also really don't know what NAVI will play on split or Lotus. Have played 9 different comps on the two maps but I think Lotus will likely be fade jett vs skye neon, IMO favoring NRG on their map pick. NRG does have strength on Pearl but have been shakier on it recently. It will be the true test of harbors strength, as them beating NAVI on their likely map pick while they don't run it would probably convince the world of Harbor's strength.
Split is where it is interesting because I think NRG win if NAVI doesn't match their double duelist comp. Victor + Ardiis on duelist will just overwhelm the solo Jett IMO, and not running Zyppan Raze would be troll. That, IMO, is the decider, and if Zyppan doesn't come out as Raze on Split I think NRG takes this 2-1(
I'm pretty sure I could name 15 better Raze players than cNed at this event.
after a year and a half of IGLing on and off what does he have to show for that?
he's not that good of an IGL and that's what they need rn
His KJ is for sure the best in the T2 scene and I'd argue he's probably the best of all NA players ATM
I mean look at their playoff stats rn Tex would for sure be favored
They have two Jett players in a meta that only has one viable double duelist map, and Penny has failed to learn the flex role in time(IMO he's by far the worst flex of the playoff teams.) Dapr can't play KJ even though it's 2023, Shaz is a good not great IGL and they don't enable Oxy at all since the MSFO.
is Tex the weak link? Isn't he like top 3 among jett players in rating and acs?
TSM are trolling if they dont get him or Penny
mak0
qw1
Saadhak
cauanzin
nukkye
How is leaf not there?
FNS
Leaf
Crashies
Should be locks
IMO from there you go s0m or marved and then victor/ethan/demon/zekken based on what roles and what form you most care about for the other 4 players.
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