Hating a dude like nAts can be only expected from burger brain users on this site

When? Lat year? does beating teams playing without one or more of their core players count as 'farming'? The only time I saw farming between the two was when Suygetsu 4k'd the shit out of PRX in Breeze

The format was same for Navi as far as I know, there is nothing to pretend. Navi only added 1 new player compared to NRG who added 2 and do you genuinely believe the 'more competitive region' thing? And even if you believe that what makes you think it has any effect on final results of the league where you have to compete against the top 6 teams.

Look the thing is like I said, Navi performed better at Lock IN which was the last tournament so for me they are the better team, if NRG performs better than Navi then they'll be the better team. If you think about it that's a way better metric to compare teams unlike making dumb assumption based on hypothetical scenarios that never played out

The only idiot here is you who is residing to insults to prove stuff that makes no sense and has no correlation. We judge teams based on their past performance and Navi were better it shouldn't be so difficult to admit that especially when this NRG team is new and there are lot of things to improve for them

Navi still semi finalists and lost to the winners, NRG lost to runners up whatever correlation and dumb analysis u make won't change that, especially when NRG knows Loud better than any other team.

They play in same league lmao? The last tournament where their competition was same was Lock In and Navi performed better. If they are worse like you say they are then we will see it the next tournament.

Yeah I forgot Optic made franchise, guess Yay and Marved couldn't perform for NRG. Also wrote 'lost to finalists' as if Navi lost to some unknown team at lock in. Navi is the better team since they performed better last event.

Better team that couldn't even make semis of last tournament they attended lmao

They don't have the talent pool

13-11, gotta statpad a little, tho watching someone lose 13-11 is way worse

I mean the fatter one can't so

NA imo won't choke coz they won't went have the lead in first place

The only trash that was taken out was Loud and that too in front of bronzilians lmao, I still remember NA shitting on SA for the entirety of 2021, all that Zombs shit but you guys still suck them off. No self respect I see.

Mid lmao 2+ years and one trophy, CIS even when nerfed won 1 and has 2 in total.

There are probably shit loads of good Russian players atm but Riot is not giving them the chance to compete. There's a reason why D3ffo went to China. Its an easier route to tier 1 Val than whatever the fuck Riot's doing in EMEA tier 2.

EG Brazilian pride I agree

Ange1 sends him feet pics bro, yup he knows him like that

Cned=1 champions trophy
EG and rest of NA= 0 champions trophy

Cned> NA

Don't think they will disappear but yeah Riots gotta do something about this 'get a kill and pussy out' thing they have with Dash and Chamber tps.

Dude you have an agent bird watching for 90% of the time we have in round, how is that not boring? He was oppressive and that's why teams were trying different comps to counter him. If people expect variety in comps after these chamber buffs then they well get disappointed.

I hope they delete chamber but calling Yay a fraud has to one of the biggest baits there is, he is one of the best in history and in M3 berlin 2021, he was destroying everyone on Jett. He was like the only players who had amazing performance in that final. Don't care much about Cryocells but if I am not wrong he was pretty good on Jett too.

This brother here never had a good take, like ever. This one's probably the worst. The dude's talking shit about a roster that was under one of the only two organizations that hosts were banning from all kinds of competition.

Chronicle alone is bigger than NRG and rest of NA.

Nah bro Yay one of the best in history for sure but Chronicle has the most achievements which makes him the undisputed GOAT.

VCT GC is not an international event? Don't worry, Mr. Obesity. If I were from NA and had a Chick-fil-A burger inside my head instead of a functioning brain, I wouldn't consider VCT GC an international VCT event just because a team from my region got reverse swept in the finals. LMAO

Is that a hot take? CIS retired pros can solo NA lmao

NA clowns claiming top Americas teams beating mid tier EMEA teams in intial stages of LOCK in suddenly stopped caring about the entire thing after EMEA had 2 teams in semis and ended up winning it. Yeah I see the burger brain logic adding up there.

3 trophies= 5 trophies( VCT GC included). Burger brain logic

100T flair= dog water take incoming, better get off this website

The game is stale rn but it needs something new and I don't mean new agents.

The current breed of NA fans. The older ones could take the shittalk, the ones right now just cry and weep all time. And lets not forget make 1000 threads about getting a user banned as if this site didn't had multiple users with NA flag speaking absolutely degrading shit about players from other regions. Wonder how long it will take them to realise that their region isn't winning shit this year.

Low skill??? More like no skill. Its like Riot took the most annoying ability of Jett that everyone wanted to get nerfed and made a whole ass agent out of it. With broken guns of course. Hope they rework that dumb agent. There should be no get of jail free card in an FPS game

Its just NA coping coz they can't point out anything that's relevant to the Valorant that Fnatic is playing currently. Deep down they know that Americas ain't winning shit this year.

That integration into Optic system had people calling Ardiis( who btw had good stats on almost all of his previous teams) a Chamber abuser. That integration was so bad that they had to go back to their comfort picks to win matches.

Must have never watched any competitive sports coz that's not how it happens. Brooklyn Nets had multiple champions and MVPs in their team yet they never saw any success in NBA playoffs. Mourinho who won CL with the likes of Inter and Porto couldn't win one with the Galacticos. Best players ≠ Trophies or success in general.

Might not even be 2nd fiddle, that double controller harbor viper shit has been long figured out. It'll all come down to individual prowess of their players which neither of teams have

Burger brain logic especially since u admitted that its just one person. Multiple music artists have annoying fanbase but that doesn't mean that it will make u speak shit about their music.

Why are Americas talking ? FNS and Sadhaak are in the GOAT igl debate not because they are that good compared to others but because they are the only competent ones in your tier 2 region lmao. EMEA had multiple teams with different IGLs winning different trophies, the focus was never on one of them. EMEA has always been the region about strats and protocols , Americas is all aim no brain and even then there are teams in EMEA that have better aimers.

I am not a big Boaster fan but clowns here are forgetting that making a new team work is way more difficult than making a core work. Especially when you had this core for more than a year. Fnatic did well to decent with almost all its iterations. Just having good players doesn't necessarily means it will directly convert into results, it takes prep and that comeback against LOUD is good example of that. Americas should worry about getting a trophy this year coz Boaster might equal the tally of their entire region combined lmaoo

Having less trophies in both esports somehow puts NA and BR 'above' lmao

Why is NA acting all brave when Optic is all they had last year. EMEA had multiple teams winning and dominating the scene for sometime. Dude other regions are so shit that even an nerfed EMEA won a trophy last year.

Ardiis

Lmao and?? Everyone agreed back in March that the top4 would have stayed the same irrespective of the format. And the format was made in such a way that upsets were supposed to happen but looking back at it u can tell that best teams were unfazed by it. People knew FNC will be good but they were placed in the same tier as NAVI and Liquid. Hell some even said that NAVI would be better because they were the FPX core and FNC had to adapt. People were expecting LOUD to take a hit since they replaced two of their core players with youngsters who needed to be guided by Saadhak.
People were putting Sentinels in same category as NRG, which we saw they are not. Majority of Lock IN results ended up being what we are seeing in the regional leagues rn.

Funny how Americas wanna talk about invalid tournament when their best year comprises of nerfed EMEA that couldn't send their best teams and also had their best sub region CIS getting shut down. Lets not forget about the broken bird watching french agent who takes 0 skills to master.

I never downplayed Marved's 2022 performances but u are definitely bringing up unfortunate stuff to downplay nAts's career. In the era of broken Jett with instant dash and rechargable knives he was putting up better stats than duelists. Was the best player for a certain period. Can't say the same for Marved.

Great stats against great teams. You can only bring the war sanctions to downplay his career. Anyone with 2 eyes can see his quality.

Decent games against Loud and Mibr had people giving him best controller in the game shouts over Mako. lmao like I said, hope he streams DRX matches in Tokyo from his home

System player, can't do well in other teams

Rework him and Jett dash. Gotta get rid of Get Out of Jail Free card abusing metality of this game.

Truth= Downfrags

Americas has 0 by that logic lmao

Yeah judge the EMEA team on their bad day but when it comes to Americas you like to forget everything except the good moments. Lets see how good Americas is in Tokyo.

And then got 13-0'd by LOUD u won't mention that? lmao even KC with Newzera didn't got 13-0 by Loud. KOI is just couple of adjustments away from being a top tier team, everyone knows it. Their ceiling is way higher than that of EG. And teams can have bad day aswell, if they wouldn't then they'll be competing with FNATIC at the top.

Keep hyping Americas team just for them to disappoint you internationally, as always. Reminds me of how people used to place C9(after their LCQ win in 2021) as a top 3 international team only for them to get slapped around by Liquid.