It's weird... Masters 1&2 perf should be way less weighted when it comes to selecting the best teams for champions. It is what it is though, not like they could've predicted that beforehand.

Turkish teams and Ascent. Name a better duo.

I said the point wasn't to not speculate whether they were bad or good. I didn't even aim the original comment at you.

supermassive blaze will win if they have supermassive balls and outaim fpx

I'm not saying anything about expectations or speculating about how good a team is supposed to be based on prior results. I'm talking about the history. The core 4 have been together for a good while now as "Worst Players" and people are acting like they just got put together.

This effort has not been an overnight success, they've grinded hard for this.

You guys are exposing your lack of knowledge of this team lol.

I'm happy to see Acend vs Gambit.

bot = 22+ over 2 maps

He does not need cheats to achieve that...

They found a way to trade their scrimbux to real dubs.

it looks like it will be on main production

if by main channel you mean main production, then i agree

fuck it who cars what channel it is in

I'm asking you what's the symmetry breaker. Not saying, that matchups follow logically.

Ok, NaVi beat Liquid, but it was a close game. What's stopping Acend from slapping a team, that is closely matched with Liquid?

mfer i predicted that 2 months ago, i'm celebrating

If envy loses this, 99% of envy flairs disappear.

They need someone to scapegoat every time, this is normal for the average TSM fan... They don't care about the players, only the org(Except wardell&subroza stans).

WHERE TF IS CHUPPAPI 😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭

there is a literal 0.000000001% chance anyone gets these right

What do you mean? Betting exchanges have a commission fee on winnings, not a margin on the odds. In both examples, the odds are based on the amount of money put on each side, just one has a margin imposed on the odds.

Do you think betting site odds are based on analysts? Bookmakers have an edge on every bet, they can literally not lose. And the odds are decided by how much money people put on each team.

"TSM fans disband".. That sounds funny.

TSM needs chuppapiwardell to show up right at this moment.

Phoenix VS Owl. Who will win?

I'm waiting to see more games personally. What makes a good team is their tactical depth; if they can preserve. Sentinels has immense depth, in any given situation they have a plan. So the more situations these teams find themselves in, the more their depth should play to their advantage.

pent up anger coming through

idk if this is upset tho.. top 3 tr is not bad, if fpx lose to ff, that is a true upset

It's both. NaVi underrated and Liquid overrated. Big time.

OXG

First EU vs TR in a while. Will be a good game to watch.

It's actually unbelievable to me, that they revealed their strat in challengers 2 seeding game(which put them in a harder bracket) and now they are trying to pull it here.

They did lose their first map to BBL in the last EMEA playoffs too.

https://www.vlr.gg/16829/bbl-esports-vs-team-liquid-champions-tour-stage-2-emea-challengers-playoffs-opening-b/?game=31222&tab=overview

I was supposed to do them today morning, but I forgor 💀

chokequid choking a 9-3 lead as usual

Don't even mention this scenario...

perhaps

gargle

The only reasonable move is to force CIS teams to go to Vladivostok and play in SEA.

This is not an endorsement to gamble, but here: https://gg.bet/en/esports/match/5:f78aec96-e22e-4e35-9630-c63c7e0ac99c

there's no way they're throwing this... no way

100 thieves making it to berlin?

You are asking them to release the criterion/weights to their system? There are probably interests on their end to not have that be public knowledge. If not, imo they should open source it, kind of like osu! open sourced their ranking system.

Both have 3, not counting masters.

that's called milkshake aim

So this is how it all ends.

What a fire game. Let's go!

What the hell happens to this kid when he picks Reyna? Man turns into a literal demon.

That's even worse.

No one. No one wins, my friend.