Turkey that high even if they didn't dominate last year ascention ?

We are immune to that

PRX being lower than EG with so few point would be insane

Thanks to Riot, Amer cant have NRG-BLG humiliation

I invoke the power of lesbian

Dont worry mine is even worst, can you try again please :D

Hard to say if EDG did a good run in CN or just the CN PO are bad, and if EMEA have improve greately explaning why FUT is 4th or not

I'm not sure I gt what you mean

One of my unpopular opinion is based on few parameters :

• It's hard to judge China
• The more a CN team is strong, the more the group is hard
  We can have a situation where every 4 teams get grouped, or every 4 team succeed to survive group, depending of how strong is China and if they gap closed

FINAL RANKING :

• Minna-bot 5443
• PP12123213123 4615
• danilo 3598
• highlyte 3456
• 7whanzussjwbsysbbejskaoao 3435
• alsdhflkahflkajsdhlfhsadl 3418
• Liem 3291
• SuperRoss 3260
• Cu55Ku55___ 3258
• DSGFan 3245
• Azzelastia 3215
• unknown_trash 3116
• ButterflyEffect23 3100
• lucidity0000 3097
• Kaitou 3067
• Maxine-bot 3012
• Kirako 3009
• vreesey 2834
• L1NK_Lover 2687
• flanador 2673
• Cosmic_ 2632
• Cu55Ku55___ 2603
• scarlemange 2356
• gamingtaming 2220

Congrats to PP12123213123 for ending in first !
The bot underestimate the weakest team, for next year I will probably change some parameters to correct that.
Maybe when I will have more time, i'll take every game and make thunderpick bet retroactively on that mess so I'll see if they beat my bot

You know the rules, and so do I ♪ (Everyone start with 1000, you can bet 100 max on each game, dont edit your bet)

Since I want to create a place where we can have constructive debate, here is a little twist : please upvote any opinion that you find constructive, even if you strongly disagree with. If you disagree with a constructive argument, try to answer with a constructive argument. At the end of the champion, i'll crown the queen or the king of this champions by counting the point of everyone upvoted post (I'll will not count downvoted post as negative point, because I don't want you to be afraid to lose point on a bad take). Please try to give opinion there, unpopular and popular, give smart analysis and be tolerant toward people you disagree with. Small post to make the thread easily reachable is also appreciated.

Round 1

• [1,29] GEN - SEN [4,42] (GEN 77%)
• [3,64] FPX - TH [1,38] (TH 73%)
• [1,14] FNC - BLG [7,95] (FNC 87%)
• [1,45] DRX - KRU [3,21] (DRX 69%)
• [1,24] LEV - TLN [5,22] (LEV 81%)
• [1,63] VIT - TE [2,58] (VIT 61%)
• [1,58] EDG - FUT [2,72] (EDG 63%)
• [1,97] G2 - PRX [2,03] (G2 51%)

Round 2

• [1,43] GEN - TH [3,31] (GEN 70%)
• [1,54] SEN - FPX [2,85] (SEN 65%)
• [1,53] FNC - DRX [2,88] (FNC 65%)
• [2,47] BLG - KRU [1,68] (KRU 60%)
• [1,40] LEV - TE [3,47] (LEV 71%)
• [3,02] TLN - VIT [1,49] (VIT 67%)
• [2,44] EDG - G2 [1,70] (G2 59%)
• [3,20] FUT - PRX [1,45] (PRX 69%)

Round 3

• [1,36] GEN - SEN [3,78] (GEN 74%)
• [1,28] FNC - KRU [4,58] (FNC 78%)
• [1,60] LEV - VIT [2,66] (LEV 62%)
• [2,27] EDG - PRX [1,79] (PRX 56%)

Playoff

Round 4

• [1,83] DRX - SEN [2,21] (DRX 55%)
• [2,87] TE - EDG [1,53] (EDG 65%)
• [1,58] G2 - LEV [2,71] (G2 63%)
• [2,03] TH - FNC [1,97] (FNC 51%)

Round 5

• [1,58] DRX - TE [2,72] (DRX 63%)
• [1,85] G2 - FNC [2,18] (G2 54%)
• [2,15] SEN - EDG [1,87] (EDG 53%)
• [2,28] LEV - TH [1,78] (TH 56%)

Round 6

• [1,77] TH - DRX [2,30] (TH 57%)
• [2,54] SEN - FNC [1,65] (FNC 61%)
• [2,05] EDG - LEV [1,95] (LEV 51%)

Pseudo-Quarter-Final

• [1,74] TH - SEN [2,36] (TH 58%)

Pseudo-Semi-Final

• [2,40] LEV - TH [1,72] (TH 58%)

Grand final

• [2,16] EDG - TH [1,86] (TH 54%)

Pseudo Semi Final ranking :

• 7whanzussjwbsysbbejskaoao 1358
• Clucker 1302
• Minna-bot 1245
• Kaitou 1232
• Finzori 1136
• Cu55Ku55___ 1134
• Esdeath 962
• kinqtobias 956
• Patch_ 930
• Kirako 900
• thinwood 893
• danilo 800
• unknown_trash 795
• scarlemange 793
• number_1_Ego_fan/alsdhflkahflkajsdhlfhsadl 761
• number2_cNed_fan 740
• highlyte 703
• Maxine-bot 700
• K4ziuHa 620
• Tryeue2 596
• Denjisideals 591
• m4tikes 590
• boilin_cockroach 539
• PP12123213123 373

I think I cant wait to judge next year, will ascention team will improve ? Will new asc be good ? Hard to say, really

It was not far after master 1

If that happen you have alawys your destiny in your hand

You can't be the most dominant team in 2024 and not having you destiny in hand at some point, even if you win champ and a master

2nd fav team fo everyone

Thanks, now what can we do to solve this ?

Not that far from the golden road

Thats the only team that managed to do that right ?

Stop talking about player aura,
Time to speak about team aura.

Opinion guys ?
And try to explain why you've got this opinion.
It can be team that didn't achieve anything while you have a legitimate reason

Yup, it was, the BO was gorgeous, but this lack of context around the BO

If we are in a Shonen they win map 4 win a convincing way then loose map 5 in overtime, got out of group in 2-1, loose their first BO in playoff, then go top 3 depending on how the showrunner is generous and if they have money for a 2nd season. But since they are lock for 2 year, the showrunner will take the final victory for next year.

THANKS GOD finally somone that realise he is watching a shonen banger

People are to occupied to complain they don't even have time to enjoy the BO5

I think what are they doing right now, not having a star, nobody trusting them, loosing first 2 game in OT, loosing start of map 3 and still winning the map 3... Is the most shonen thing that ever happen in Val if they are shōnen protagonists, they will win map 4 in a convincing fashion, loose in map 5 in overtime, and doing an amazing run in champ (depending if the showrunner are the same sadist as pokemon's one, they will probably lose against a random team in semifinal that can play an agent that is not release in the game)

Let's acknowledge something : to not be flamed at in anly pro game you have to be perfect if not you are trash.

Everyone is human, everyone do mistake, therefore all of humanity is trash at video games, all united in the trashiness of the great bin.

May the Great Bin protect yall

The fact you getting upvote for roasting everyone here is kinda... Concerning ? T.T

It's so weird, it seems that people acknowledge the problem but everyone is "It is, what it is"

Yeah, obviously G2 is well known for playing only with aim and being not able to win with nothing else than aim !

It's the only place to speak to a large number of people about val with a forum system, I don't want to beleive val community cant create a forum where people think with measure with constructuve thougt T.T

If G2 was bad the first 2 map thats a really bad news for AMER, it create a 10% scenario where all of them get grouped. But I don't think they are that bad, I couldn't beleive Amer is bad and go in a scenario where their 4 team are bad x)

How the fuck G2 become the worst team in the world in people's mind after loosing only one BO5 with two first map going overtime ?!

Seriously, those guys were consistent during the whole year, stomping the winner bracket, and after 2 12-12 games, they are now a fluke that make absolutely no sense

I talk about last champs, EDG and BLG both did pass group, but if you want to talk about master, we can, if you want to judge swiss in last master you can use transitivity and it's GEN/G2 > TH > FPX > FUT > LEV > T1/DRG, with FPX ending behind the top 3 of the global event

Last time an American say that that didn't end well.

Keep in mind last time CN got 2 team that didn't get grouped

Well G2 is still a good team going 12-12 twice in grandfinal after winning winne'r bracket is still a good acheivement, and lets be honnest, every game is a coinflip, it went in favor of LEV but it could have been in favor of both side

True if they win Stage 2 they will have 3 point for qual to ch... Wiat... Nevermind

Oh I have another idea, lets just take only the pistol !

...

So let me see...

...

Hmmm... G2 would be 4-0 if you take away the nonpistol.

Smartest EMEA fan strikes again !

Totally agree with this, but it still a Amer title, that kinda count

Why we would take aways the pistols ?

If G2 is dogshit a team that go 12-12 twice against them is dogshit too... And lets not talk about the team that loose against team a team that loose against them

It's still not a primary color, what would be the stat of Indigo ? 0/0/255 ? 64/0/255 ? 0/128/255 ?

Would be smart to do it, but since the 2 first map are really close, I would doubt about this

Indigo isnt a primary color, but if you want to call 0/0/255 Indigo instead of Blue, it's ok to me, because it doesnt create misunderstanding with another priamry color.
C9 is definitly closer to 0/255/255 than 0/0/255 contrary to DRX

Keep in mind the primary color are cyan/yellow/magenta (it's ok to say pink because no misunderstanding) in subtractive synthesis, and red, green, blue (it's ok to say indigo) in additive synthesis

Yes :chad:
Your red emote will not change that matter of fact <3

It's not blue it's cyan... Saying blue instead of cyan is the equivalent of saying Red when it's yellow scientifically speaking...

Whow... So many PPL betting on SEN

• [1,54] G2 - LEV [2,87] (G2 65%)

It will be even more harder to find it if I have to create a new thread for each week no ?

TH is the real EG, everyone laughing at them for not having as the roster few weeks at the start of kickoff

Less people participate, is that because it's a bmegathread that make it hard to access, or just because people are less interested.

I wonder if for next year you want 1 thread per week, or 1 megathread ?

• [1,42] GEN - DRX [3,38] (GEN 70%)

One day we will leave Middle ages of Valorant where people think only strong individuality count and see the big picture, this will be Renaissance