Can't believe some were saying he wasn't ready for tier 1. He's the goat.

actually kind of crazy when you consider one of the maps was arguably the worst ever in his career (and he's had some stinkers) and there's only a 4 game sample size).

still very winnable for NRG, I never count them out to early

no just like some of the players (LG and EG fan), but don't like the team's fanbase.

c0m has top fragged half the maps Lev have played so far (very small sample size but still). It's just that his tejo map was so bad that people think he's ass.

best possible outcome for me, mada and ethan playing well, but NRG themselves shitting the bed.

Based ethan and supamen take, but c0m is def not in bottom 3 worst he's playing fine for the most part.

bro crashies entire role on FNC is to drone, dart, and then get carried. He's washed.

don't let recency bias affect you, he's insane and will show how good he is in due time

Jawg is still the second best player on the best team in NA. I would say hes def top 10 NA.

verno too

the stats verno has rn good feed entire generations

don't think this is debatable

the ultimate vlr take of all time

demon 1 - played pretty bad, but I still have faith in bro
c0m - played pretty well so far (had a horrible recent performance on tejo though)
ethan - still good lol (arguably the best ex eg player rn, most give it to jawg though)
jawg - inconsistent, but still good
boostio - easily his worst season yet in terms of the shooting the opponent

I would say 3/5 eg players are still doing pretty well. I think the downfall of eg players is a little overstated, especially since one of them (jawg) is a great contributor on the best team in NA (in my opinion, but this might not age well). Ethan is also a great player on NRG whom I think has a decent chance of qualifying.

Furia's main team is def in the top 3 most disappointing, but the sub team that played against 2G is prob my fav team that played in their tourney. Big fan of their players (especially penny and the LG guys, bdog, and stellar) and although they wouldn't have gotten very far, I would have like to see them play another game.

Lowkey Keiko

brimstone with the psylocke fit would make me actually play the game again

Recency bias hitting hard than it usually does these days

The lack of mada glaze I see here is disappointing me

Lowkey down to fuck a dude for free again

don't be shit at the game (I'm plat)

no mada listed
opinion invalidated!

jk your list is pretty similar to mine except mine also includes all the ex-LG guys

Even right now, Jinng on his main roles is better than zellsis on his main roles. They both played like shit during champs though.

Prime jingg clears zellsis astronomically

"terrible excuse TBH" -🤓

Worst part is the stupid mfers that are actually falling for the bait. This site is cooked ngl.

Just play an actually good game man like Wukong, Hollow Knight, Hades, etc.

If you don't won't to buy a triple AAA game (like Wukong) cuz they are expensive, there are several indie games out there that are really good and cheap. A lot of them clear Valorant and FIFA as a game combined.

I like apoth, but his play this season has been horrid. I hope he can bounce back.

If you look at the entire year aspas has similar fkpr to basically every good duelist (except zmjjkk who is the exception) and the only reason he has a lower fdpr is because he has a better rate of winning the first duel. This narrative started out as bait and the fact some mfers are dumb enough to actually take it seriously is funny af. I do think Aspas is number 3 and that Zmjjkk overall was better than him this year though.

2 2nd place finishes in no world is better than a first place champs finish. How tf is edg not above th?

I'd rather get one first place than a gazillion second places.

Also sen and geng should be switched, sen is not first lol.

you lost your aura with that name change

I want kingg and goonzino to stay as well, praying no one leaves 😭

Even with his bad last performance, he was the 3rd best player for Sen throughout the tournament and their best player overall in the group stages. I know you are baiting, but this is mostly for the people who believe that Sacy didn't play his part. I will say the last series against TH did really hurt his overall performance though as before that game I would say that Sacy had a good tournament.

Haven't seen you in a while and the first thing I see you post is bait. Welcome back bro.

Literally everyone on Lev played mid that game lol

W for EG C0m in 2023

I'm really glad Miniboo is playing well, people claiming that he was only on TH because of nepotism can suck a fat cock

Not really lol. I want China to get their first trophy, so I hope EDG pull through.

Ik you're baiting but you're actually right. Never seen fans who wants to replace their players as badly as sen fans.

guess Mako was just more impactful overall idk ask enigma

Acting like Mako aint one of the greatest players in Val

yep, may the best team win

bro wrote a fan fic

i don't trust anyone with baby in their name

TH

EDG

Im going to touch you d1rt

no he balded from the stress of grinding league

Both play fade and Sova mainly

Both mid round exceptionally well

Both are not considered to be top players mechanically, but provide amazing value to their respective teams

Both had fans who wanted them to be replaced

Both have amazing util usage

Both have already won 1 Champs

Both turn it the fuck up when Champs comes around

Both are loveable cutie patooties

Must I go on .... ?

Yeah, but this thread is asking if pacific is the worst atm, and China as a region is def worse than Pacific as a region rn.