Good team and a god coach

recipe for success

why are you so surprised

agreed, they both carry the team imo (although the others do their roles)

Yay still played jett (not as much as chamber, but still) during stage 1 and dominated, so he's a top jett in my eyes. Do you think ban can be argued for the 4th/5th spot over tenz or babybay?

I respect tenz and do think he can be argued for a top 5 spot. But I'd say babybay/ban have carried their teams just as hard if not harder than tenz. I mean look at Ban right now, he's been top fragging every one of knights matches and carrying them to the playoffs.

If you disagree, I'd love a reply! I'm always down to debate on these sort of topics.

true, he's been amazing for a while and I like his name too

First of all, I believe that anyone in the top 3 is interchangeable. Second of all, we've seen yay and saya dominate on jett internationally in the most recent VCT, so I just gave them the benefit of the doubt. Leaf is a monster though no doubt and can easily be number 1.

screwface is damn good, but I know you didn't just put him above ban and yay

edited it, I started with 5 not 1 and it fucked up the order of the numbers

For me its:

1. Sayaplayer
2. Yay (best player in NA, but not on jett imo)
3. Leaf
4. Cryo
5. Ban/babybay

In NA btw

Dre vs stellar

Rooting for nyfu, but wouldn't be upset if 100t won

It'll be close, nyfu looking much better than last qualifier.

He's repping your team, honestly respect

thief vs dre :(

Going to have to go with 2-1 NYFU

Hoping whoever loses this makes a lower bracket run

They are afraid of squirrels

It's almost like he's human

APROTO
REASON: ION SHERIFF MERCHANT

They did pretty well last qualifier though. Almost made challenger playoffs, missed it by one match I believe.

Aproto Ion Deagle 1v5s IlluZion

I agree that Asuna hasn't shown his full potential yet, but with how he is preforming right now (which is still good don't can't me wrong), I don't think it's fair to say he's currently a top 10 player.

Addressing your first point: I'd argue that Bdog's chamber is top 3 or at least top 5 in NA this year. That's more than just good, he's a top chamber.

Second of all, saying Bdog's jett is mid is a little misleading and I'll tell you why. Stats are insanely misleading, especially when you only look at the past 60 days. Bdog had an extremely bad series against TSM, and that dragged his stats down by a lot. Specifically, his KDA on jett. Previously, his jett has been amazing and using only a few games in this vct (where he only had one bad match with it) to assess his jett, makes no sense what so ever.

Third of all, your point about Mada being the best raze in NA is valid, but we are comparing the impact of mada and bdog as players not mada's raze to other raze players, so you're point here kinda falls short.

Your worst point is saying Mada map mvp'd 4/5 of the last maps. 2/4 maps mada match mvp'd, bdog actually had more kills. Making it seem like mada was a hard carry when bdog was up there with him really doesn't bode well with me.

Mada is more flexible than bdog, I agree.

All in all, I do agree that mada is the better player. However, only very slightly. In terms of impact, they are very close; mada was the great entry fragger while bdog was the guy who would clutch up or get the important kill when you needed him the most. Also, for future reference, don't use stats like match mvp or KDA as your only point; if you do, at least give more context so it doesn't seem like a player is worse or better than he/she actually is.

I'd love a reply, always down for a good debate :)

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Too ez for the goat theif

Not really. Satchel util can be complex and I've only really seen bunny, mada, and nukkye use the satchels properly (at least in an aggressive manner). There's def more, it's just that those 3 are what come off at the top of my head.

Why do you make it seem like it isn't close, bgod and mada could both make a case for top 15

Asuna on flex has looked good but not amazing. As of now I don't think asuna is top 10. I don't think bgod should be there either. They're both arguably top 15 though.

I love bgod to death but dicey should be up there instead or babybay

Will asuna bang the stellar derrek?

I agree it sounds weird, but it doesn't make him sound like an incel lmao. I feel like people don't use that word right half the time anymore.

With wippie, I feel like V1 would have already qualified. Not because he's a better player, but because he fits V1 much better. Also, never use ACS as evidence; if you watched the Stage 1 games you'd have seen the insane impact Wippie had in those games.

Moose is making Kanepki loose

He used to be overaggresive, he's still hyper agressive now, but it's more controlled. His mechanics have always been insane though.

But I feel like if they were playing with Zombs, they would have preformed even worse. Zombs is a decent anchor, but it's clear that his mechanical talent was really holding Sen back. I do agree that Sen should've gotten a cracked smokes player though. Maybe Sick wanted to play smokes though, we don't really know what goes on behind the scenes.

people really using Kanpeki as a scapegoat

The classic ace in stage 1 or the chamber ult ace that just happened? Both are insane clutches.

Classic Ace:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zJVj2Ot00HA

Chamber Ult Ace:
https://clips.twitch.tv/NeighborlyLachrymoseHerdImGlitch-KrLGw8ZvSl0mcjNx/

BEST ACE AND CLUTCH THIS TOURNEY BGOD DOES IT AGAIN HOLY FUCK

He has the best ace clutches. The classic clutch he did in stage 1 was just as insane.

To each their own. I personally love the butterfly pull out animation over the katana. Even if I thought it was worse would still think the butterflys pull out is better to spam and spamming the knife is all I really care about lol

Katana's good but i don't think it's better than the butterfly imo. I get that it's more unique but there's no way riot doesn't make another knife just like it in the future. Also the butterfly knife just feels much better to spam (whether its pull out or inspect) just like the prime karambit.

Damn bro that's crazy. Say that again bozo.

I should've realized it was over when the third map was icebox. Our comp on that map is literal booty cheeks.

Honestly if T1 picked up a star jett player like ban, they would have clear T1 potential. Dynamic is good, but he's too inconsistent in the fragging department.

Not yet, but she def could play for a T2 team

they got robbed bruh, give them some slack.

Everyone doubting LG, but real ones know it's going to be 2-1 LG. Come back later after the match is finished and clown me if I'm wrong.

Hoping Ghost do better in the next qualifiers cause this shit is sad

Just found out they got robbed. Praying super hard that they preform well next week.

Whenever it's time for Faze to play a match Dicey and Babybay get their back blown out.

I like penny

I actually feel bad for T1, they would've easily won map 2, but pwny had internet issues (or something like that) and their coach had to sub in. Unlucky really.

that's number 3 for me. Don't see it too often these days which is a shame.

LG need to step up to beat GenG, the fact they almost lost to girl kissers is worrying. 2-1 LG

Champions or Rgx butterfly for me