idrc who wins tbh but this tournament is the defintion of mickey mouse

only valid reason is prize pool, but when that's your only reason to win then by defintion it becomes mickey

I only think ewc is

genuinely, I have never though of Madrid or Lock In as Mickey

just get let the people know that this is a disneyworld tournament

Whatever region that is currently most likely to win this tournament is going to stake their life on saying EWC isn't Mickey Mouse and the other regions are going to say it isn't. I think it's Mickey as fuck and will always be of that opinion but it's kinda funny seeing people so desperate to push their agenda. Now it would be even more funny if EMEA do allat and still lose they Mickey Mouse tournament...

You are telling me that no matter the winner, all 500k gets sent to the players for all orgs? Source?

I think so, but the split between players and org depends on well, the org. And that does vary from org to org.

To be honest, the incentive is not even between teams. Money is given to the orgs and the orgs can decide what share they are giving to the players. If an org takes like 90 percent of the money the players are essentially playing for less than a month salary (might be hyperbole but you get the point). In my opinion, for a tournament to be considered to be actually important, it needs to have another incentive besides money.

Nah EMEA feeling too nice off an off season tournament

Wait so was he the problem or the solution? Feels like vlr switches up every 2 seconds on this.

EMEA in off-season tournaments are actually different

Bro named the only decent reason first and made the rest of the list ragebait

It's an off season tournament, prize pool might be similar, but it's prestige is no where close to a masters of champs. When the only incentive to win is prize pool, the tournament by default is pretty mickey.

Only against NRG

T1 Autumn

Valorant's level of play has been increasing ever year, but the biggest jump imo was from 2021 to 2022. Thus, I would say 2020-2021 is what would be considered the "plumber era".

Wolves flair is cool too

And why is it Lev?

I mean I really like wolves, so I do hope they start looking better soon. It's probably just a slow start just like how they had a slow start in Toronto.

Let's not act like wolves are looking good rn, FPX steamrolled them

lev is winning this match

c0m won't allow that to happen

Americas don't need to worry EG and Lev will bring champs home

yeah, I don't agree with him saying TL was meh because it looked like they weren't prepared when TL was forced in a situation where it was impossible for them to properly prep in the first place

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We can only judge off what we've seen. TL did get very unlucky and I personally think that if they didn't get unlucky they would have been better than Sen, however, I don't think there's much of a point to getting into hypotheticals. They might've placed higher, they might've not all we have are the results at the end of the day. TL rn is potentially the best team itw though with the new roster.

what's your fav dmc 5 and person ost?

DK Rap top 1 song oat

this is going to be stuck in my head lol

I feel like Metal Gear Solid also deserves a mention seeing it hasn't been listed so far

Snake Eater and Heavens Divide by itself makes Metal Gear a top contender

Omori has some bangers for sure

My favorite are Final Duet, World End Valentine, and

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I KNOW THAT IT"S HARD TO DOOOOO

Balatro is so fucking fun man I only played a bit but it's so addicting

I haven't heard that name in years...

Ah I forgot about Chrono Cross and FF, they're soundtracks hit different

The biggest reason why pokemon music is so good for me is because of nostalgia, but take that away and in my opinion it's just top tier but not the best.

I mean if you have actual series who are known to have good soundtracks and then you have valorant which has like what, the main theme? Or maybe the queue music is what you thought I was talking about? It's pretty obvious I wasn't being serious, no?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RUN6Kqd9xgs&list=RDRUN6Kqd9xgs&start_radio=1

this ost from risk of rain 2 gives me chills, vibes from the ost are so unique

Never listened to any of the soundtrack from Rayman Legends, but I loved this ost from Rayman Origins:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O_S7nyIq0N8&list=RDO_S7nyIq0N8&start_radio=1

Yk ball and I forgot about Touhou ngl

They are in my top 10 without a doubt arguably top 5

I'm so clearly not being serious with the Val pick lol

Soulsborne games all have amazing sound tracks and are top tier. Not my number one favorite personally, but they are all elite and match the aesthetic that the games have perfectly.

Valorant main theme clears csgo main theme, so it's number oat

???

Death By Glamour > Megalovania

FUCK I FORGOT TO MENTION THAT

For me, it's probably Nier Automata, Every Persona game, Devil May Cry, Bravely Default, Sonic Frontiers, and Valorant

What about y'all?

In my opinion, every match on the international stage is important even if the run is bad overall. I was just addressing your claims of you saying he was a regional farmer so I think it's fair to talk about all of his international performances.

I mean you mentioned the games were he popped off the most but he was sill great in every other game as well besides the one versus prx (which honestly wasn't that bad either). I don't think anyone think thinks that as an overall player KK is on the same level as Derke and Aspas, but that his peaks reaches the same high that their peaks do (which I can agree with). He did overheat a bit and make some mistakes I can admit that, but his impact was comparable to both smoggy and chichoo that tournament if not greater. 105 FK is crazy and the amount of space he created for his team was a crucial factor for all of EDG's wins.

I think people just look at his 1.10 rating and think that his performance there was overrated. And that's just something I don't agree with. I think it's reasonable to say KK was the best player in Champs 2024.

Nah, he was good in Champs 2022, amazing in Tokyo 2023, mid in Champs 2023, good in Madrid 2024, bad in Shanghai 2024 (but the entierety of EDG was bad and either him or smoggy was EDG's best player), amazing in Champs 2024 (I'm ngl, this is his best event if you look past purely the stats which are still great and this tournament alone proves he's no where near a regional farmer). And mid in Bangkok 2025 (but still EDG's second best player on the team). Calling him a regional farmer after Champs 2024 and all his other good performances is unreal ngl. In most of the tournaments where he's been mid/bad he was still the second best or best player on EDG. Imo Champs 2023 was easily his worst showing so far, but even that wasn't that bad.

He was a bit overrated for a time, but then everyone started calling him overrated and now he's back to being rated or even a bit underrated lol. At least on vlr.

Lol what. Shy has been the top rated player in 3/5 losses (where he has played) that Kru have had so far since Kickoff (not counting off season tourneys). And the other 2 games, he was second highest rated. And he was positive in all the losses except 1. You're just wrong lol.

I don't agree with this reasoning, but I do think F0rsaken deserved it over Fudge. High impact + most kills on his team + igl + (most importantly, imo) the win. Yeah, it's F0rsaken.

ik that kamyk 1v4 clutch had you jumping with joy

yeah the worst part is if Sen didn't throw even one of those rounds, we wouldn't have had the see the worst bind gameplay oat

also not making excuses they def deserved that loss lol

One of the unluckiest/most thrown maps on the international stage ever. Nats had a collat head shot 1v3 clutch, 2 people died in a gun round for free by jumping onto ledge at the same time and falling into the abyss, and kamyk had a 1v4 clutch while being stuck in one spot. Allat happened and they still barely lost 16-14. Knew it was bad watching it live but looking back holy shit it's even worse than I thought lmao. The only thing that made it not as bad for sen was the fact liquid threw a bit as well.