They advocated for it, then came to the group consensus that DRX > LEV and 100T should be in B. So I'm not really sure what you're complaining about - that individuals had different opinions? The group, as a whole, still came to a consensus that differs from what you're saying, so I'm confused why you reiterate the point, but perhaps I'm not understanding you properly

On your point about 100T being good, yes, she did say that - but then the other 3 said "yeah, if they change the system" - Balla even brought up that they looked better at RedBull because they were using their old structure, and they just slotted Cryo into it. So again, the group consensus was that 100T COULD be good if they change their system - I don't really care what one individual's (Mimi) specific phrasing was if the group consensus is not in line with it. Would you agree?

They place NRG and NAVI in S tier but say DRX is only A tier because they dropped maps to other teams.
Didn't NRG literally drop a map to GIA and nearly drop a map to a less than 1 month old KOI or am I going crazy?
Is going 2-3 against LOUD not worth anything too?
Even if you think NAVI and NRG are better than DRX, you have to admit that the 5 teams are all a similar level.
NRG and NAVI are LITERALLY one and two spots above DRX on the power ranking. What exactly are you complaining about?
Regardless, DRX objectively looked one dimensional, as per usual. When they got deeper in the tournament and there was more tape on how they played, they started getting smacked. They have one playstyle and one gameplan - when they can't run it, their midrounding is not good as compared to any of the S tier teams. When they play their game, and no one knows what they're doing, they can look unbeatable, but they're still one dimensional.

Also how is TLN and FUR counted as B tier teams when they played so much better than LEV who is in A tier. Both looked much better than VIT who ended up above them too.
...again, we're talking about swapping 3-4 teams around who are essentially next to each other in the power ranking. TLN looked good, but they didn't beat any teams above them on the tier list, and FURIA looked solid but also semi-inconsistent based on carry performances out of GOD mwzera. LEV seemed to have a better holistic gameplan, +scrimbux. Also, looked better than VIT? When?

Lastly, how do you advocate for LEV to be put above DRX and almost put 100T in the same tier as them?
Didn't happen, so this is a strawman argument.

I have so many questions but glad I can hear them say that "100T will be good with time" for the 100th time.
They never said that. They said if they completely change the system they have in place to revolve around Cryo and how he wants to play, then they will be successful. Great job cherrypicking my friend.

Absolutely awful take. These orgs that they've partnered with financially and contractually, they're just gonna kick because their teams didn't perform that well at the FIRST international tourney of the entire year?

havent been following the female scene. is this new TL Brazil better than the other one that played on LAN?

better phrasing - he had the least impact of all the DRX members. better?

if so, I'd wholeheartedly agree. Rb has frankly skyrocketed up in value over the past 6 months, MaKo.. he's MaKo. stax can be demonic, as can Zest, but BuZz just does not sit right on sentinel sometimes.

examine your life and determine what other variables you aren't holding steady. is your sleep off? has your diet changed? mother died? gf fucked your neighbor?
get all of your ducks in a row, then eliminate more variables in the game. play a consistent warmup/aim training routine, even if it's for 3 minutes, before you play ranked, EVERY TIME. Derke literally put out a thread on consistency on Twitter, and he is arguably one of the most consistent players in the world, and that is one of the biggest things he also touted.

perhaps if language barriers weren't an issue. feel like I'd rather have Boaster in there, SUYGETSU on sentinel (he had an insane tourney), and Ethan on flex. he individually had a fantastic tournament and historically has a lot of impact on teams in both CS and VAL. so
Derke
Leo
Boaster
SUYGETSU
Ethan

LMAO

100T vs EDG was an amazing match, both teams played well. all high level analysts who are costreaming the games - TMV, sgares, sliggy - all mention that both teams looked really good, and I'd agree
100T vs FUT, not sure, pretty sure 100T Lotus comp is just dog shit (why would you play Cypher over KJ who has MULTIPLE broken ults across the map? makes no sense), other maps I couldn't catch but seems like they're playing inconsistent (i.e. stellar top frag day1, today Asuna and Derrek topfrag w stellar bottom)

that makes a lot of sense, appreciate the explanation

i think everyone underestimates the impact of having literally thousands of people rooting for you whenever you get a single kill, regardless of if you can hear them or not (which you DEFINITELY can if they're all screaming and cheering for you). stellar couldn't hear much because the arena has significantly fewer spectators for 100Ts games since they haven't played a Brazilian crowd, just look at the camera shots

LOUD and FURIA looked decent, true, but I suppose I'll have to wait and see how playoffs are and how LOUD look to judge, because I wasn't extremely impressed with them. they are great at building momentum up it seems, but a lot of rounds that they won in both LOUD v NRG and fnatic v FURIA came down to wacky ass clutch situations. like I said, I'm open to my mind being changed, but I think people may overrate those two teams specifically

fair enough

im curious to hear opinions - how close do you guys think the match would have been in a non-Brazilian venue? I've looked at matches this tournament as heavily skewed in favor of Brazilian teams just because the emotion of thousands of people going AGAINST you and FOR your opponent is an incredible barrier to climb
EDIT: but FURIA looked surprisingly solid. their haven composition actually was extremely well thought out, had multiple looks on both sides, and was quite impressive. ascent, I think Brazilian teams are just gods at, so seeing fnatic win was a bit of a surprise, but mostly because they just played really well.

im genuinely curious because I don't understand why people are offended - what is wrong with this question? is it because they were pissed off about the match loss and didn't want to talk about irrelevant topics?

sick seems mentally unwell. her tone of voice and the way she phrased things in her voice messages she posted on Twitter suggest to me that she's a manipulative girl who took advantage of Hunter wanting to make the relationship work. "half open", "I'm with another guy and talking with other guys, but he needs permission to talk to another girl" - that's a VERY toxic relationship dynamic. that power dynamic just screams to me, "I want to control this other human being and what they do, but I am allowed to have what I want"

you seem like a salty bettor. you spend a lot of time complaining

You named the three bottom frags on NaVi in that match. Congrats, you played yourself

you need to find a distraction worthy of replacing her. i would say using the heartbreak you feel now and converting it into anger that she didn't see your value, that she had already checked out of the relationship (since she moved on so quickly), to become a better person than she is. she ain't worth it brother.
i live with my ex girlfriend, and when we broke up a few months after moving in together, i was in a similar mental place to you. focus on the parts about her that show to you why she was NOT a good partner and why it is good that things have ended between you two. redirect your focus from being worried about what she's doing and who she's with to realizing this is a chance for you now to evolve into someone greater than possible when encumbered with another person. this is an opportunity for you - it is not knocking you down. it is helping you to grow whether you realize it or not.
if you need more specific advice, dm me brother - we're all in this together. stay well.

this is a fan tournament, not a player tournament

yall hear sumn

thank ya

perhaps I'm not looking in the right place, but when do Lotus and Split replace Bind and Breeze in the active map pool for the Challengers Splits?

UB has lost 3 maps to nonamers? wym they're shitting on everyone

BTS was always amazing to watch in CS. hopefully they do this more in VAL, production was probably some of the most fluid of any tourny in recent memory

everyones talking about his downgrade as a player, which is accurate, but the communication upgrade is pretty significant. having all native English speakers/someone who fully meshes culturally will significantly contribute to their ability to pivot and become better since, by default, synergy will be better and they'll have someone who can communicate new ideas just as effectively as they can. which isn't a rag on saya at all, it is literally just a language barrier thing

they look regardless of who they played. people tend to forget before they flunked on LAN and before Chamber era that they were on a trajectory to be a top NA team. hell, they beat optc, obviously online, but even still

you have zero understanding of how a professional team develops strategically

they didnt get scammed, the refs just didn't know their own rules which is hella dumb. unfortunate for kru anyway, except for the C9 game they looked far better than I expected

fair enough! i was referring more to players in general providing value (regardless of role) but i get where there was the misunderstanding. cheers to a non-combative discussion

i hope you know what you said is mutually exclusive from what i said. i said nothing about "his role", i said he brings value beyond just a role player

you cant say something like that when it's objectively not true. he brings far more to the team than fragging power, and he's able to play whatever agent necessary

Everyone severely underrates the experience Ethan brings to every team he's been on. Every team he's been on had a significant uptick in performance after he joined

Interesting they kept elmapuddy

maybe sacy, but the others? zekken is funny but not necessarily charismatic, tenz..

spotted the tenz bootlicker

ill take Zellsis > zekken, they need more hype players not less

they seemed a lot more composed, enzo was playing smarter, alfa and derke were back in form, boaster wasnt triggered/nervous, mistic still in good form. if they keep it up, i can totally see a world where they stomp their way to a win. but whenever fnatic looks the best seems to be when they crumble, so... tbd

u really revived this just to shit on their grave huh? feelsbadman

Didn't watch the game but they lost two close maps with their top player having an off game and their flex having 17 kills? Seems like an off day for them but idk, someone with more insight probably knows better

this is a poor take

How fucking boring is your life that you get pleasure shitting on other people? Actual loser

So many weirdos on this site get hard when teams lose just so they can try to shit on other people. Get a life

Peanut brain

LOL huh?

when else do u want them to do it exactly

more likely shaz would than have tenz lie on his stream. bc if it's true, then shaz looks like an asshole and that he's holding the team back even. so lying to save face makes more sense

i hope your 2 brain cells can process this- you're contributing nothing to this conversation. your ego is in the way of you having an actual discussion as to why you disagree with me.
ill bring crayons next time you want to discuss anything so i can draw it out for you.

i dont know the reason why you need to understand why they pushed- that's their decision making. assuming your utility is set up correctly and you're watching the angle, it should not matter what they are doing- you are stopping their push, unless they use an ability to get around it. so you shouldn't care about what they're thinking. that's my perspective, everyone has a different opinion
your point about not wanting to use a third party app makes a lot of sense, imo that's the most important reason to add VODs to val

solid argument! classic NA val user

So watch your own VOD back and extrapolate- is the trip jumpable? Could he have TPed past? Regardless, you don't need to see his POV to get useful info from it