Why dont people pick raze on ascent?

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SKara

In pro play I mean, raze + fade combo is much better in ascent, the team comp I earlier made was not the team comp which I Think is the best in ascent but still I used it for xyz reason, leave that this thread was all about raze + fade stop asking me why kj why omen lmao

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valorantgamer69420

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r u analyst

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SKara

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Wellllllllll

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JustHunter

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why Omen tho? Brimstone would be leagues better than Omen in any team that is focused on utility usage and combo plays which definitely seems to be the case with this comp

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sweetdreams11

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i think..sort of analyst...he also posted a thread related

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If you can avoid kayo abilities raze would literally be the best agent there for every part of the map, but its basically impossible to predict every kayo ult or knife

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SKara

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True kay/o is the only reason people dont play raze otherwise she is really good in ascent especially with team combos

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Teams choice this is y ur region is tier 5

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SKara

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Lmao bro I clearly know why dont people pick raze I was just saying this comp have potential

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valorantgamer69420

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I am sorry to break your bubble but this is not facts! I will be in contact with my lawyer soon.

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SKara

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Lol I am not saying people should pick raze right now but leave it this thread was a mistake hahaha I refuse to believe I made this thread lol

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SKara

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Feelsgoodman seeing soo many big teams using raze and fade in ascent, now cough cough which bubble? What facts? 😆

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he wasnt even talking to you

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SKara

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Lol mb

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https://imgur.io/a/VLdReuR

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SKara

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Ahahahhaa

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factsonly as always with the L take and L outcome after 2 weeks KEKEKEK

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Seinaru

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man just say raze is have potential to pick, why you so mad?

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Darkzero does and that's why they're #1 NA :)

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valorantgamer69420

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this ratio is also #1 :)

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entry with jett is much better + awp

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SKara

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Awp I agree but entry? Nah raze can do much better

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bro there is no way if that was the case they would have picked raze
jett smoke dash literally can get info around it and peak with team some times the player on def get confused and start shooting +
jett can stay in smoke you can flash and she can come out of smoke and get a kill I can go on bro but in some maps raze is better but not on ascent it can be but its on team what they need

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SKara

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Well basically it all depends on the gameplay style + map, but like there were much more things I was able to do with raze like clearing of backsite ,corners making combo plays with fade pull and nade etc

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fardeengg

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like we all know how effective raze kit is but these team have coach and analyst so they know better than us
and also am raze main but I understand why jett is important on some maps just like you must have raze on split
but would love to see more raze on ascent tsm using it on ascent

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SKara

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Hmmm we will see if the big analyst + coach who are getting paid are better or the normal 20 y/o who have abnormally bigger head irl lol

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thats not entrying tho so how does it make raze better for entry

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SKara

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Sorry for replying late but I wrote a fricking paragraph and it all went in vain when I missed clicked on back key lolz so here is the shorter version of that. See what I believe is there lies an "window of predictability" in every agent the more that agent is being used the wider this window becomes and the less the agent is being used the narrow this window becomes, the wider that window is the more people adapt to that particular agent, so an agent like kj if smart enough can counter jett's entry(ofc nothing can be said with a guarantee but it increases the chances of countering jett), while raze is not that predictable (in comparision to jett),jett have just 2 smokes that provides something meaningful to teamplay, while raze had boombots(intel gathering extreamly helpfull in retakes) and nades (clearing angles, helping in clearing back site, giving chip damage, delaying rush), the way jett is the combos that people made with jett revolves around the idea of someone helping jett with a flash or stun and the jett taking the aggressive approach while this can be made the same with raze but one could also make acutal teamplay with raze like fade's sieze and raze's nade ofc there are alot of things but bye I gtg for dinner

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HavocWEEB

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raze had better util everyone knows that

but jett is still picked cuz she can entry better

all ur arguments for raze being good at entrying is the util she doesnt use for entry

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SKara

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I mean how can I explain stachels is better than dash and updraft aside from the fact that if done properly raze can entry faster than jett lol take that, its a skill that needs to be mastered doesnt means raze is bad for ascent its just jett is comparitively easy to entry than raze

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HavocWEEB

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never said raze was bad
just jett is better

and if u cant explain how satchels are better than jett dash smoke entry wtv then its not better

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Jett is better agent even with nerf.
And also you forgot to pick Sova.

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SKara

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Jett is definitely better agent than raze but for ascent I believe a raze with good satchel can give unpredictable entries and also could use nade to clear corners or do damage. I didnt picked sova because fade was giving much more info alon with clearing angles and I was able to make plays with fade + raze

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Jett can achieve similar results to raze and even better because she has smokes while also being more flexible and a better character to awp on

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inlucid

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lot of br teams will use her on ascent this stage

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staymad

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TSM uses it

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RahuLllllll

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Fnatic saw your thread ig

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I think this comp is better with sage over kj but otherwise it's great

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SKara

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Tbh this thread was intially about just fade and raze combo on ascent but then I made up a comp lol and then edited it 2 times, basically all I wanted to say raze and fade are so good on this map

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Yes absolutely

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rdmz1

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map too big

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Bunny on raze on ascent was the best thing I ever watched

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SUCK_IT

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this is the comp that paper rex played against bleed today just an astra in plce of omen and kay o instead of kj
edit:and guess wot they won 13-3 moreover they did have a kay o in the opposite team

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GLN321

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Raze is played,
But chamber + kj on ascent is overkill to say the least lmao

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Seinaru

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most of the time teams use raze to do suicide mission to entry, she doesn't have the ability to survive unless you are a raze god and do some crazy movement. pros using raze because of her delay ability using her granade and ult.
But jett is different she have smokes, she can dash and updraft she have the capability to survive.
but you also can use em both as double duelist on attack and turn raze into semi sentinels on defend to delays entry.

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cloudmoney

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Mfs who dont know how to utilize his util in matches and just all aim dont wanna play him