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Best VRL by far, all teams except Real Betis stacked. More than 50% of matches go 13-11 or overtime.

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No one? Shame for vlr

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DACH and Polaris better

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Hell no, I accept French but why would Polaris and Dach be better, both lost most of their good teams

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DACH only lost FOKUS. Whereas spains best team rebels is worse with the departure of musashi

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and rebels isnt top 3 anymore because we have a lot of good teams but DACH only has 2 or 3 good teams

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No, I also count Wave as a loss, they are not a contender anymore

In the Spanish we lost Rebels yeah, but what about Heretics with a really top roster, Kiles in Giants, MRS huge upgrade too and more

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Kiles is not an upgrade lmao. Monster was way better than Kiles. CASE and MRS are the only good teams.

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0/8

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Mad?

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Marcock99

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no i just thought it was a bait cuz u did say that GIA were bad or didnt say anything bout TH or TQ

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Way too dependent on Fitinho

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He is not wrong though Kiles was always the weakest link in the chain while he was in Acend but I support Giants in the Spanish vrl

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But is still a world champion on a VRL, is not the numbers he can put up but the ways of working and tactics

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The experience of a world champion is what a VRL team needs bro

And other teams like Heretics and TQ are really good teams too. KOI is a bit hurt but still

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Haven't seen enough of Heretics after Keloqz. Queso look decent but aren't top 2 IMO. Koi are just dogshit

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KOI isn't dogshit. The problem is like teams like Riders and Heretics have improved their level.

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Okay that makes more sense

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Ibis

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They lost against MOUZ and trust me they will come far if not qualify to next vct

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they cant qual cus there is no promotion

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xd DACH level overall is nad and polaris has some good teams but meh, the best VRLs are French and Spanish

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Polaris sucks and only got 2 decent teams

DACH is ok but still behind spain and france

both polaris and dach are top heavy compared to france and spain which got more depth

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Mortadelo

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No without Fokus and BIG. Like if the VCT teams were on their VRL’s yeah, same for Tr. But rn French and Spanish are a level above

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yes thats what i said

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Mortadelo

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Well, that’s what you edited it to, but yeah, fair enough xD

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ye xd i didnt explain it very well so edited

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Ive posted about this before but VRL spain have the BEST casters

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raicadis

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Are Spanish interested in this league? how is viewership 10k per game?

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is it good or not?

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raicadis

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I don't know it was a question, i have no info about this league

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https://twitter.com/SergioFFerra/status/1524114205728776197?s=20&t=ys8uAR8qiOpjTRwSoFn7xg
last split

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Mortadelo

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Um, there’s viewing parties usually putting up good numbers. The Giants vs KOI he those 10k but with 25k on each viewing party so 60k. In general the expectation is not as high as last time, even though they are still good numbers if you compare to any other VRL but French ir maybe Tr

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When was BIG in the VRL Dach lmao

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Half of these teams can’t even make top 32 in a full opens. Literally t4 how can u watch these games and think they’re good.

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the least delusional NA fan:

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Mortadelo

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xD

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SUPREMOCOC

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The most inteligent NA fan:

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TR still looking better I would say although Spain is looking good maybe they might upset France or Tr

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cmon TR only turkish peek

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Last time I checked I remember Spain lost against Tr in Promotions so what is your point?

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Marcock99

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we stomped u before + spanish league got a big big upgrade while TR only lost alfajer

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BBL_Wtcn

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Yes and then lost second game where it mattered the most so still no excuse stop downplaying Tr bro also FF and Fut as good as Surreal

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Marcock99

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the thing is that that team sint anymore in your league and now the new team got stomped by a spanish team (SMB)

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SMB washed team lol I can name you 3 other teams better than them in Tr vrl

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Marcock99

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then i can name u 5 teams better than rebels if we put it like that but it isi what it is

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BBL_Wtcn

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But at that time rebels was the best team in your region SMB wasn’t they were washed only won Challengers 1 because every other team was getting used to their new rosters

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"at that time" but now the teams upgraded a lot

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BBL_Wtcn

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I never said anything bad about Spanish vrl btw I also support Giants in that region

continue thread →

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Pa

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I think Spain is more competitive but Tr has better top teams and maybe france too

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Guys, I am talking about the average level. In my opinion, Spanish league has the highest but it is true that some teams from other VRLS can give a hard competition to the Spanish ones.

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Why is Betis underperforming so much?

They rolled Bisons 3-0 and 19esports 2-0, who were quite equal skillwise to several teams in VRL Spain

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Marcock99

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nah bisons were a bit worse than other teams like MRS who got a big upgrade

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Mortadelo

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Because the general level of the league has increased, like all the bottom teams have done great signings.

Out of the other 3 teams that ended up in relegation, Heretics and MRS did really top rebuilds and Arctic has definitely upgraded too

Meanwhile we got BTS that beat Bisons who had to wait a month with no competition to play without being able to change any players and Betis was coming from rolling the league, not saying they weren’t better, cause they were. What I’m saying is that they weren’t as good as they looked nor Bisons was as bad.

Anyway this also proves again why the 9 invites wasn’t so bad long term wise

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Yeah but 9 invites hurts every other Spanish team which wants to develop and grow in this game, getting recognition and fans

They have an established system with all these MRS, UCAM, TH, TQ etc., but there are little to no opportunities given to smaller orgs

In DACH, such giants as UOL and PENTA weren't invited directly, and it gave space to newbies like Sparx / Dsyre / Ovation to qualify and build their brands from zero

Same can be said for Turkey, Besiktas are fucking massive but they missed both stages, allowing nonames like Lixa and Surreal in

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The problem is that as you can see the invited orgs are always going to make sure they are not on the lower part of the board. And if that means kick all players and do tryouts again they will do it, which does allow talent go get in the league. Players change, is the teams with resources who don’t. Try to imagine it like a traditional esport for example