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6vine [#3]DACH and Polaris better
Hell no, I accept French but why would Polaris and Dach be better, both lost most of their good teams
6vine [#3]DACH and Polaris better
xd DACH level overall is nad and polaris has some good teams but meh, the best VRLs are French and Spanish
6vine [#3]DACH and Polaris better
Polaris sucks and only got 2 decent teams
DACH is ok but still behind spain and france
both polaris and dach are top heavy compared to france and spain which got more depth
no_noise_979 [#7]Polaris sucks and only got 2 decent teams
DACH is ok but still behind spain and france
both polaris and dach are top heavy compared to france and spain which got more depth
No without Fokus and BIG. Like if the VCT teams were on their VRL’s yeah, same for Tr. But rn French and Spanish are a level above
Mortadelo [#8]No without Fokus and BIG. Like if the VCT teams were on their VRL’s yeah, same for Tr. But rn French and Spanish are a level above
yes thats what i said
no_noise_979 [#9]yes thats what i said
Well, that’s what you edited it to, but yeah, fair enough xD
Mortadelo [#10]Well, that’s what you edited it to, but yeah, fair enough xD
ye xd i didnt explain it very well so edited
Mortadelo [#5]Hell no, I accept French but why would Polaris and Dach be better, both lost most of their good teams
DACH only lost FOKUS. Whereas spains best team rebels is worse with the departure of musashi
Ibis [#13]DACH only lost FOKUS. Whereas spains best team rebels is worse with the departure of musashi
and rebels isnt top 3 anymore because we have a lot of good teams but DACH only has 2 or 3 good teams
raicadis [#11]Are Spanish interested in this league? how is viewership 10k per game?
is it good or not?
Ibis [#13]DACH only lost FOKUS. Whereas spains best team rebels is worse with the departure of musashi
No, I also count Wave as a loss, they are not a contender anymore
In the Spanish we lost Rebels yeah, but what about Heretics with a really top roster, Kiles in Giants, MRS huge upgrade too and more
raicadis [#18]I don't know it was a question, i have no info about this league
https://twitter.com/SergioFFerra/status/1524114205728776197?s=20&t=ys8uAR8qiOpjTRwSoFn7xg
last split
raicadis [#18]I don't know it was a question, i have no info about this league
Um, there’s viewing parties usually putting up good numbers. The Giants vs KOI he those 10k but with 25k on each viewing party so 60k. In general the expectation is not as high as last time, even though they are still good numbers if you compare to any other VRL but French ir maybe Tr
erickwak [#21]Half of these teams can’t even make top 32 in a full opens. Literally t4 how can u watch these games and think they’re good.
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erickwak [#21]Half of these teams can’t even make top 32 in a full opens. Literally t4 how can u watch these games and think they’re good.
xD
erickwak [#21]Half of these teams can’t even make top 32 in a full opens. Literally t4 how can u watch these games and think they’re good.
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BBL_Wtcn [#25]TR still looking better I would say although Spain is looking good maybe they might upset France or Tr
cmon TR only turkish peek
Mortadelo [#17]No, I also count Wave as a loss, they are not a contender anymore
In the Spanish we lost Rebels yeah, but what about Heretics with a really top roster, Kiles in Giants, MRS huge upgrade too and more
Kiles is not an upgrade lmao. Monster was way better than Kiles. CASE and MRS are the only good teams.
Marcock99 [#26]cmon TR only turkish peek
Last time I checked I remember Spain lost against Tr in Promotions so what is your point?
6vine [#27]Kiles is not an upgrade lmao. Monster was way better than Kiles. CASE and MRS are the only good teams.
0/8
BBL_Wtcn [#28]Last time I checked I remember Spain lost against Tr in Promotions so what is your point?
we stomped u before + spanish league got a big big upgrade while TR only lost alfajer
Marcock99 [#30]we stomped u before + spanish league got a big big upgrade while TR only lost alfajer
Yes and then lost second game where it mattered the most so still no excuse stop downplaying Tr bro also FF and Fut as good as Surreal
BBL_Wtcn [#32]Yes and then lost second game where it mattered the most so still no excuse stop downplaying Tr bro also FF and Fut as good as Surreal
the thing is that that team sint anymore in your league and now the new team got stomped by a spanish team (SMB)
Marcock99 [#33]the thing is that that team sint anymore in your league and now the new team got stomped by a spanish team (SMB)
SMB washed team lol I can name you 3 other teams better than them in Tr vrl
BBL_Wtcn [#34]SMB washed team lol I can name you 3 other teams better than them in Tr vrl
then i can name u 5 teams better than rebels if we put it like that but it isi what it is
Marcock99 [#35]then i can name u 5 teams better than rebels if we put it like that but it isi what it is
But at that time rebels was the best team in your region SMB wasn’t they were washed only won Challengers 1 because every other team was getting used to their new rosters
BBL_Wtcn [#36]But at that time rebels was the best team in your region SMB wasn’t they were washed only won Challengers 1 because every other team was getting used to their new rosters
"at that time" but now the teams upgraded a lot
BBL_Wtcn [#36]But at that time rebels was the best team in your region SMB wasn’t they were washed only won Challengers 1 because every other team was getting used to their new rosters
I never said anything bad about Spanish vrl btw I also support Giants in that region
BBL_Wtcn [#39]I never said anything bad about Spanish vrl btw I also support Giants in that region
im not saying that either about TR btw
BBL_Wtcn [#39]I never said anything bad about Spanish vrl btw I also support Giants in that region
I am speaking on facts my friend you can come up with whatever justification you want but until we see a Spanish team beat a Tr team it will remain the same
6vine [#27]Kiles is not an upgrade lmao. Monster was way better than Kiles. CASE and MRS are the only good teams.
The experience of a world champion is what a VRL team needs bro
And other teams like Heretics and TQ are really good teams too. KOI is a bit hurt but still
Marcock99 [#29]0/8
He is not wrong though Kiles was always the weakest link in the chain while he was in Acend but I support Giants in the Spanish vrl
6vine [#41]Mad?
no i just thought it was a bait cuz u did say that GIA were bad or didnt say anything bout TH or TQ
BBL_Wtcn [#42]I am speaking on facts my friend you can come up with whatever justification you want but until we see a Spanish team beat a Tr team it will remain the same
puahahahahah ur speaking facts kekw
BBL_Wtcn [#44]He is not wrong though Kiles was always the weakest link in the chain while he was in Acend but I support Giants in the Spanish vrl
But is still a world champion on a VRL, is not the numbers he can put up but the ways of working and tactics
Marcock99 [#46]puahahahahah ur speaking facts kekw
Here are the facts
Tr beat VRL Spanish best team who destroyed every other Spanish team
Tr placed 2nd best region in the VRL promotions
Where is your facts?
BBL_Wtcn [#48]Here are the facts
Tr beat VRL Spanish best team who destroyed every other Spanish team
Tr placed 2nd best region in the VRL promotions
Where is your facts?
- The 1 team league doesnt have that 1 team
- You are just onliners with tyhe ping advantage
- 0 tactics teams last season
- SMB single current team in TR that played against against a spanish league got stomped
Mortadelo [#43]The experience of a world champion is what a VRL team needs bro
And other teams like Heretics and TQ are really good teams too. KOI is a bit hurt but still
Haven't seen enough of Heretics after Keloqz. Queso look decent but aren't top 2 IMO. Koi are just dogshit
Marcock99 [#49]
- The 1 team league doesnt have that 1 team
- You are just onliners with tyhe ping advantage
- 0 tactics teams last season
- SMB single current team in TR that played against against a spanish league got stomped
and the second best team last season got stomped by a team that was 0-2 2-1 aginst a spanish team
Marcock99 [#45]no i just thought it was a bait cuz u did say that GIA were bad or didnt say anything bout TH or TQ
Way too dependent on Fitinho
Marcock99 [#51]and the second best team last season got stomped by a team that was 0-2 2-1 aginst a spanish team
Huh? I don’t understand what you mean if you talking about SMB losing I already stated my opinion
BBL_Wtcn [#53]Huh? I don’t understand what you mean if you talking about SMB losing I already stated my opinion
I mean, surreal stomped FF, and then that best team who win with difference, went 0-2 and 2-1 against a spanish team that now isnt top4 and i dont know if FF got any upgrade but i think they are way worse tha sur
6vine [#50]Haven't seen enough of Heretics after Keloqz. Queso look decent but aren't top 2 IMO. Koi are just dogshit
KOI isn't dogshit. The problem is like teams like Riders and Heretics have improved their level.
6vine [#50]Haven't seen enough of Heretics after Keloqz. Queso look decent but aren't top 2 IMO. Koi are just dogshit
Okay that makes more sense
Olofboost [#57]Why is Betis underperforming so much?
They rolled Bisons 3-0 and 19esports 2-0, who were quite equal skillwise to several teams in VRL Spain
nah bisons were a bit worse than other teams like MRS who got a big upgrade
Olofboost [#57]Why is Betis underperforming so much?
They rolled Bisons 3-0 and 19esports 2-0, who were quite equal skillwise to several teams in VRL Spain
Because the general level of the league has increased, like all the bottom teams have done great signings.
Out of the other 3 teams that ended up in relegation, Heretics and MRS did really top rebuilds and Arctic has definitely upgraded too
Meanwhile we got BTS that beat Bisons who had to wait a month with no competition to play without being able to change any players and Betis was coming from rolling the league, not saying they weren’t better, cause they were. What I’m saying is that they weren’t as good as they looked nor Bisons was as bad.
Anyway this also proves again why the 9 invites wasn’t so bad long term wise
Mortadelo [#17]No, I also count Wave as a loss, they are not a contender anymore
In the Spanish we lost Rebels yeah, but what about Heretics with a really top roster, Kiles in Giants, MRS huge upgrade too and more
They lost against MOUZ and trust me they will come far if not qualify to next vct
Ibis [#60]They lost against MOUZ and trust me they will come far if not qualify to next vct
they cant qual cus there is no promotion
Mortadelo [#59]Because the general level of the league has increased, like all the bottom teams have done great signings.
Out of the other 3 teams that ended up in relegation, Heretics and MRS did really top rebuilds and Arctic has definitely upgraded too
Meanwhile we got BTS that beat Bisons who had to wait a month with no competition to play without being able to change any players and Betis was coming from rolling the league, not saying they weren’t better, cause they were. What I’m saying is that they weren’t as good as they looked nor Bisons was as bad.
Anyway this also proves again why the 9 invites wasn’t so bad long term wise
Yeah but 9 invites hurts every other Spanish team which wants to develop and grow in this game, getting recognition and fans
They have an established system with all these MRS, UCAM, TH, TQ etc., but there are little to no opportunities given to smaller orgs
In DACH, such giants as UOL and PENTA weren't invited directly, and it gave space to newbies like Sparx / Dsyre / Ovation to qualify and build their brands from zero
Same can be said for Turkey, Besiktas are fucking massive but they missed both stages, allowing nonames like Lixa and Surreal in
Olofboost [#62]Yeah but 9 invites hurts every other Spanish team which wants to develop and grow in this game, getting recognition and fans
They have an established system with all these MRS, UCAM, TH, TQ etc., but there are little to no opportunities given to smaller orgs
In DACH, such giants as UOL and PENTA weren't invited directly, and it gave space to newbies like Sparx / Dsyre / Ovation to qualify and build their brands from zero
Same can be said for Turkey, Besiktas are fucking massive but they missed both stages, allowing nonames like Lixa and Surreal in
The problem is that as you can see the invited orgs are always going to make sure they are not on the lower part of the board. And if that means kick all players and do tryouts again they will do it, which does allow talent go get in the league. Players change, is the teams with resources who don’t. Try to imagine it like a traditional esport for example
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