The Future of International Events

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As Riot continues to add new maps and characters, I wonder how the format of future international events will turn out? There are a couple of aspects that could be implemented in future tournaments that can make Masters more entertaining and interesting; it is a matter of time.

Hear me out:

Having more teams from each region: Having 12 and 16 teams in International tournaments seems like too little. The fact that only 1 team from Japan, Korea, and LATAM can qualify (In reference to the current Masters) seems unfair but understandable because of the strength of the other regions. I was thinking at least 24 teams would be better, for example, 4 NA, 5 EMEA, 4 APAC, 3 KR, 3 JP, 3 BR, and 2 LATAM in a tournament of 24 (Note: this is just an example not what I think should be the exact format). The format and the number of teams from each region that qualify would vary. However, I think that there should at least be a minimum of 2 teams from each region for every international tournament. The reason for this is because of the viewership from each region. If we look at the LATAM region, they have a lot of fans (especially when KRU had a miraculous run in the Valorant Champions 2021) but since they only had one team (in the current Masters) and unfortunately got eliminated too early, Riot loses most of the regional viewership in LATAM. Valorant continues to grow in popularity. It is only right to see more teams from each region since it is not just NA, EMEA, and BR that is continuously growing.
Character Bans: Since Riot continues to add more characters, I feel like character bans should be experimented with and implemented in future tournaments. There are still players in the current tournament that only play one character. And by having character bans would (I believe) make the games more interesting and entertaining because teams would have to prepare for the unexpected. It would also force players to learn more than one character and teams to improvise and adopt additional strategies. Therefore, I was thinking that each team gets one character ban that both teams cannot use (for example, if Team A bans Jett and Team B bans Chamber, both teams cannot play any of those characters for either the specific map or whole series).

There are other ideas that I most likely missed so ... let me know what you think should change for the future :)

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A 24 team tournament would pair great with a swiss format to playoff double elimination but Riot's too much of a fucking pussy to have multiple streams for BO1s

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BlankFace

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Hopefully, changes occur as the popularity of the game continues to grow.

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i think character bans are not a good ideia, sure, against some different teams it could work, but most of the time would be a ban into jett or chamber, to make the other team play without a op

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You have a point, but I also noticed that each team has different comps for each map. For example, PRX plays Yoru on bind instead of Jett. On split, some teams do not play Jett. So if we had bans for each map, the character bans may vary.

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kowacic

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if each map has different bans yeah, but we still run in the problem of certain agents becoming permaban, if last champions there was bans astra probably wouldn't see play

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BlankFace

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That makes sense, but I think since characters are getting nerfed and buffed, there will be more balance when it comes to character selections.

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Some good ideas in here I like the idea of the larger tournaments, the problem with character bans is that we may never get to see certain characters played on some maps e.g sova on haven/icebox

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BlankFace

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I noticed a lot of teams are moving away from Sova on Haven because of how good Breach is. We even witnessed Neon on Haven. Like what if a team banned Neon on Haven when against Optic?

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Pretty sure they stated Agent bans won't come until the Agents count around 30+ ish?

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BlankFace

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That might be a while then. Depending on how many characters they release every year, it might not be implemented until a couple years from now.

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I mean if they do it like the map vetos (one choose to protect and then choose one to ban) it could work and can be used as an extra bonus for higher seeded placed teams.

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BlankFace

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What if we have it where if a team bans a character on one map, they cannot ban the same character again for the rest of the series?

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DDot

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yh that can work too it would force them to pick more responsibly for each map rather than repeatedly banning jett

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Its just sad knowing LSM won't ever go to a lan... we need 10 spots for NA

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BlankFace

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They have a lot of things they need to work on to have the chance. Even with 10 spots for NA, TSM still may not make it. We were able to get surprises in the NA region like the rise of The Guard and Akrew, more teams will explode onto the scene and fight for the chance to represent their region. Overall, I think TSM playing in the small tournaments is a good start. There are other factors that can be implemented to improve that team so it's a matter of time until we see the progression of TSM.

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GLN321

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yeah tbh I definitely saw them in the top 10 and breaking into the group stage of challengers with Wardell and Aleko, but right now it looks kind of like a shit show

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Maybe rather than putting the agent bans at the beginning you can put them in the middle. Like each team picks 2, bans 2, then picks the next 2. That way you can still get the Jett's, Chambers, or other picks valorant relies on, but still get some say in the agent pool.

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BlankFace

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I think I understand what you are trying to imply. Correct me if I am wrong but are you saying that a team picks Jett and Chamber as their first picks, that means the other team cannot ban them but can ban 2 of the remaining agents and etc. Can you clarify if this is what you mean?

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wizardbot

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Yep his wording is wrong, correct word is "agent protects"

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BlankFace

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Thank you for the clarification :)

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Yeah, my bad, I didn't know the wording for it.

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How about changing agents each half

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kowacic

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agent select like in league

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kowacic

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that would be so fucking bad lol hope it never happens

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You mean same comps/agent not allowed ?? I don't thinkits good idea

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kowacic

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i also dont think is a good ideia

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BlankFace

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I never even considered this idea. It is very interesting but I'm not sure how it would fair well because once a team is on defense, they would play mostly sentinels like cypher, kj, and chamber.

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SamBR

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Character Bans:
Mr. Obvious

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BlankFace

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It seems obvious of course but who knows if Riot will ever implement this. More teams are practicing characters for each map that popular agents are not being played on specific maps as before. For example, some teams have decided to play Breach instead of Sova on Haven and some teams have even brought out some wildcards like Neon and Yoru to pro play. So I feel like the bans would make the game more interesting.

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If you could ban characters it won’t be fun because every team would ban jett

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BlankFace

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What if a team has already banned Jett on the first map, can't ban the same character twice in a series?

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BlankFace

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We would still get to see Jett, but not on every map

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they need to add a CSGO Dreamhack-esque circuit. but make it mainly regional. hold 100k or 250k tournaments, in the Americas and in EMEA. invite the best regional teams, have one or two qualifier spots, and occasionally invite teams from other regions. that way you can have 8 team events, 12 team events, etc.

VCT events should always be 16 minimum, maybe 24 like CSGO majors.

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BlankFace

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I like this concept, it's only a matter of time before this gets implemented. The current prize money for each tournament is still low for an international event, so I am hoping they will increase the amount won on the international stage.

COVID regulations have also hindered ideas like this but eventually when restrictions hinder, we will see this plan out.

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You need a decent amount of more agents before you start implementing agent bans

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BlankFace

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I agree that as of right now that there aren't enough agents. What would be considered enough?

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Need more agent

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BlankFace

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What do you think would be considered enough if they were ever to implement agent bans?

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roaree

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24 teams would be dope and even maybe 32 for like champions but that may make the tournament too long. agent bans will deffo come out in the future but i feel there needs to be at least 30 agents (7/8 per type).

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dupreeeeeehalt

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24 teams in champions like cs majors, swiss elim
easy fix

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xLeo

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going to be good.
😊👍

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dejikke

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just like you said, I think in the case of banning agents we have to wait for new agents to be released, don't know if it would work with the current amount of agents we have, but it's a great idea