Fnatic overrated?

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SamBR

Or NIP underrated?

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I feel bad for the team in lowers who will have to face Derke

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derke will come back in the playoffs, no?

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I think he might be able to come back before and they should still have no problem beating zeta

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boaster said that he wouldn't be available before playoffs. he's in iceland but if they don't qualify into playoffs he would go back without playing a match.

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sadge, back to top 21 he goes

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dude they are playing with 2 subs u complete clown

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matimaluco

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why you underestimating the stand ins, man? stop being a dickhead

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wohe

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how could u be so dumb ? is the real question

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queueK

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bad translation? There's nothing in the message that is related to underestimating the stand-ins.

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mauge67

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wdym "underestimating",why are you overestimating them

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Velurom

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Are you actually this dense or are you just baiting?

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yungbasel

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You're getting alot of unnecessary hate, but I'll break it down for you.

Fnatic only had 7 or 8 days to prep with these subs. The problem is that when you don't have your regular core, everyone plays differently and alot of previous preparation goes out the window.

It's not that the subs are bad players, they obviously know how to shoot. But it's the tactics and playstyle and tendancies that get affected.

Some people call this Copium, but they're deluded if they think Chemistry isn't important.

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Honestly, that sucks, but let's not forget that V1 played with a stand-in and still did pretty well. NA made no excuses, and wound up beating TL and CR, losing to NUTURN and Fnatic.

On top of this, let's not forget that EMEA constantly talks about how they're worlds ahead of every region, and constantly call BR "Bronzil".

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1 stand-in vs 2 stand-ins. Fanatics best player and possibly one of the best EU Duelists vs v1s idk whoever. Very hard to make a comparision.

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I agree with 2 stand-ins vs 1 being a bigger impact, but EMEA always call them Bronzil and now EMEA fans are eating their words.

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COCAINELORD187

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curb ur cringe man

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DiegoMocu

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at that moment Sentinels could win without a coach, no way to compare these situations

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No derke no winn

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Only good emea teams are fpx and gmb

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EU nip was better ngl.

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wohe

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true chiwawa would clap these guys

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andrewdamf

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chiwawa cant even win against surreal

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wohe

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surreal would clap br cheeks tho

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davmg

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didn't they get grouped at redbull homegrounds?

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wohe

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by emea sure by br never kkkkkkkkkkkk

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davmg

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ok so how exactly would they qualify for masters LOL

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wohe

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yeah that's why nip went to the easier region kkkkkkkkkkkkkkk br fans be like

ok so how exactly would they qualify for masters LOL

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davmg

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easier region just clapped FNC's cheeks on their own map pick...
with fearoth and h1ber carrying

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wohe

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yeah that's not how val works, that's why u guys all aim no brain

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davmg

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all aim no brain is when you beat fnatic when they're being carried by stand-ins LOL

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fnatic playing with 2 subs + no time to practice enough, anyways nip looking nice

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kristof

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with braveAF and derke this wouldve been a 26-0 for fnc

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wohe

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BRUH MAX BR FAN IQ

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conta bait do krl vsf

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wohe

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english brooo english can u read ?

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dejikke

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foi mal mano nem vi

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Derke will feast in the lowers. Just wait.

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Fnatic is going to Brazil axaxaxaxa

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brazil intelligence really shines today

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Without arguably their two best players and using two stand ins that don't have long term chemistry with the team nor each other? Idk about that one.

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NIP kinda underrated + Fnatic with 2 subs.

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dudeeee

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Fnatic cant win when they dont have a guy whos gonna kill 2 players every round for them lul

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argueable, first nip is very good form gameplay so far i dunno its bcs FNC dont have derke there, but if its true FNC prove us they are the worst balance team in valorant ever. Miss 1 player and made them like tier 3 team.
If u talk about brave i dont think he is better than this sub

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Nip underrated

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idkbro

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fnatic dont have their 2 best players and are a super gimmicky team, they cant play simple/fundamental valorant like teams like gambit, gambit can win a tournament without having nothing innovative in terms of utlity because their fundamentals are so good, fnatic cant, they just play boaster dogshit playstyle that only works early in tournaments when no1 knows their gimmicks, then they get destroyed like champions/emea playoffs

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NiP is a good team but the way the played today it was just a ranked game and exploiting that fnatic didnt have protocols on point so they struggled to adapt/react to the aggression (also they couldnt win a fight for some reason), I wouldnt expect NiP to beat top teams in the tournament or Fnatic in lowers if they have Derke back

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SamBR

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According to 90% of this forum EMEA is a major (and best) region while Brazil is a Sh*t region, so 2 subs should not change the result of the match.
Stop with that, NIP is underrated and played well, they deserved the win.

Can't wait to watch Loud playing against the best

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I agree, Brazil is really underrated in vlr, you guys were just unlucky af in champions but I think if Fnatic had both derke and brave it would have been a quick 2-0 and if they had only Derke it would have been a comfortable win for fnatic still, NiP did nothing amazing, just exploited the lack of chemistry playing aggressively which is smart but the real test in against proper teams that have their full lineup

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SamBR

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I respect your opinion, but I still thinking NIP would win.
Btw Fanatic is not dead yet, they can win it all, let's just see what gonna happen in the match NIP x DRX
Fnatic and NIP can play again in the group fase yet.

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Fnc have 2 stand-ins so why brother to even play the match. Just surrender or it’s gonna be embarrassing like it was!

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Ofc they are. They even lost to FPX which had a Boomer Jett.