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Sliggy come here

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#1
JettEnjoyer

Men I hope you will do some map picks preparations.
We all know ScreaM on duelist>>>ScreaM on skye and Nivera on Chamber (awp)>>>Nivera on KJ or other>>>>>>>>jamppi jett
No jamppi awp pls except ascent

So if you dont have enough time to prep your job will be:

Permanently ban Haven Or just use ScreaM on Jett on Haven
Permanently ban Fracture I am 100% sure Liquid will loose this map to any s tier team.

Other maps seems pretty OK in terms of new roles for Nivera and ScreaM. Try Bind with Nivera Chamber as well.

#2
JustEnjoying
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Sliggy gonna give you his job at this point

#3
number1_ScreaM_fan
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against g2 they should insta ban bind since g2 is insane on that map somehow. fracture probs gonna stay second ban since they cant play it

#6
JettEnjoyer
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They use decent comps with raze+chamber, viper + smoker + skye
When does Liquid finally use Nivera as main Chamber on bind? After the elimination?

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number1_ScreaM_fan
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nivera is main chamber on bind currently. their bind comp looks good ngl

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JettEnjoyer
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Then I'm sure Liquid can play Bind against G2 coz ScreaM can be used on Sage

On Haven ScreaM must be entry on Jett and Nivera awp. But they prac diff comps with scream on skye LMAO. So Haven needs to be permabanned

Fracture seems to me as a default permaban for Liquid, for the times when ScreaM learns Raze.

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number1_ScreaM_fan
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against other teams sure
against g2 absoluelty not. They won acend, m3c, guild on that map. not a risk to take

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JettEnjoyer
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OK, may agree with you

Trade off for ban: Bind, Haven, Fracture

#19
number1_ScreaM_fan
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fracture probably wont be a problem as g2 bans that aswell. haven still is but i doubt they will pick it over icebox which is also liquids weaker maps

#29
JustEnjoying
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Happy to see how passionate both of you are

#33
JettEnjoyer
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You are enjoying ain't you

#35
JustEnjoying
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What can I say, I really am :)

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JettEnjoyer
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Tell me how the hecking hell Liquid analysts made decision to use ScreaM on Skye? LMFAO they didn't watch cs:go back then, skye is the cs supporter who gives nades and flashes, ScreaM was tier5 on that role and got washed. Now they wanna make him washed in Valorant as well.

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Mortadelo
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Scream Jett lmao

#14
OMEGALUL007
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#screamgokill

#51
UnrivaleD
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scream jett vs your team 2days ago in icebox kekw

#10
JettEnjoyer
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Mixwell Jett double LMAO

#11
number1_ScreaM_fan
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I hope the map picks are as follows
Liquid bans bind
g2 bans breeze
liquid picks split
g2 picks icebox
liquid bans fracture
g2 bans ascent

#22
JettEnjoyer
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It's gg wp for Liquid then. I don't like their Split at all, I hate Split as the map. Very unstable map always 50/50

#23
number1_ScreaM_fan
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split their better maps wdym

#28
JettEnjoyer
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Always close games

#32
number1_ScreaM_fan
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they won against g2 pretty convincingly last time so i dont think it should be a problem doing it again

#24
Giannero
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They ban bind they win, they could do it on icebox but not bind

#12
Slashyiguess
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sliggy really has vlr doing his job for him ๐Ÿ’€

#16
Acro_
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if they pick icebox and bind, its gg for them

#20
number1_ScreaM_fan
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liquid has to ban bind icebox i could see it going close

#26
Giannero
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Icebox already went 15-13, liquid's bind is trash tho

#21
SKara
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Yeah

#25
WinterZ
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tbh I dont think we should ban Haven against G2. We've got 8% higher winrate on it than G2 and have played it 29 more times than G2. Plus, last time we played G2, we beat them 13-8 on it.

Bans for us are:
Icebox
Bind

Bans for them are:
Breeze
Fracture

Picks for us are:
Haven

Picks for them are:
Ascent

Split remains

if these are the map picks I think we will 2-0 them

#27
Giannero
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Last time was against a totally different G2 tho, plus nukkye played fucking phoenix

#30
WinterZ
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last time he played raze. Last time we played them was only a couple days back

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Giannero
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They played bind that series? Shit mb then

#50
WinterZ
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no they didnt. maps were Haven, Split and Icebox. Nukkye played raze on Split and Haven and he played Sova on Icebox

#31
JettEnjoyer
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Don't ban haven, but don't use ScreaM on skye then or it's like playing with 4 instead of 5

#34
WinterZ
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fair ig

#38
fadezis
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Cringe, put ur ego down and respect ur favourite team's coach decisions or just change your favourite team

#39
number1_ScreaM_fan
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He just giving suggestions nothing wrong with tat?

#43
fadezis
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Imo Its kinda disrespectful to sliggy, pretty sure he knows better what his team should do and what not, surely he is doing more deeper analysis and under any decision there scrim results and a lot other arguments that no one of us can see and know.
Its not so simple and even if it is sliggy already knew about it earlier, so its kinda cringe for me when random user trying go give advice for pro coach, but just imo

#45
number1_ScreaM_fan
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theres nothing wrong with people posting their own takes its not offensive but everyone has their own opnions

#46
fadezis
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Agree with you, just this thread name too ambitious compared to this text)

#40
JettEnjoyer
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Cringe

#47
ciro
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Banning haven makes sense but against G2 its dumb, g2 are pretty bad on haven. Should ban bind first obviously because g2 is pretty good and 2nd ban prolly fracture. Their icebox comp (which g2 will pick) is fine but agent swaps in Icebox might happen

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UnrivaleD
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idk about the heaven ban since g2 is worst then liquid at it imo , but g2 sucked mainly due to the anoying chamber op of nivera , if tl doesnt have anything else in mind then they should ban it then , scream on jett is a must or maybe put him on kayo if else , skye takes a big time to master and she flashes for her teamates more than she flashed for herslef like kayo(in pro play not ranked lol), i believe tl can take it unless all 5 g2 players play the game of their lifes (hopefully and unlikey wont be the case)

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