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Sliggy come here

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JettEnjoyer

Men I hope you will do some map picks preparations.
We all know ScreaM on duelist>>>ScreaM on skye and Nivera on Chamber (awp)>>>Nivera on KJ or other>>>>>>>>jamppi jett
No jamppi awp pls except ascent

So if you dont have enough time to prep your job will be:

Permanently ban Haven Or just use ScreaM on Jett on Haven
Permanently ban Fracture I am 100% sure Liquid will loose this map to any s tier team.

Other maps seems pretty OK in terms of new roles for Nivera and ScreaM. Try Bind with Nivera Chamber as well.

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JustEnjoying
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Sliggy gonna give you his job at this point

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number1_ScreaM_fan
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against g2 they should insta ban bind since g2 is insane on that map somehow. fracture probs gonna stay second ban since they cant play it

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JettEnjoyer
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Tell me how the hecking hell Liquid analysts made decision to use ScreaM on Skye? LMFAO they didn't watch cs:go back then, skye is the cs supporter who gives nades and flashes, ScreaM was tier5 on that role and got washed. Now they wanna make him washed in Valorant as well.

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number1_ScreaM_fan [#3]

against g2 they should insta ban bind since g2 is insane on that map somehow. fracture probs gonna stay second ban since they cant play it

They use decent comps with raze+chamber, viper + smoker + skye
When does Liquid finally use Nivera as main Chamber on bind? After the elimination?

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number1_ScreaM_fan
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JettEnjoyer [#6]

They use decent comps with raze+chamber, viper + smoker + skye
When does Liquid finally use Nivera as main Chamber on bind? After the elimination?

nivera is main chamber on bind currently. their bind comp looks good ngl

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Scream Jett lmao

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JettEnjoyer
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number1_ScreaM_fan [#7]

nivera is main chamber on bind currently. their bind comp looks good ngl

Then I'm sure Liquid can play Bind against G2 coz ScreaM can be used on Sage

On Haven ScreaM must be entry on Jett and Nivera awp. But they prac diff comps with scream on skye LMAO. So Haven needs to be permabanned

Fracture seems to me as a default permaban for Liquid, for the times when ScreaM learns Raze.

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JettEnjoyer
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Mixwell Jett double LMAO

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number1_ScreaM_fan
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I hope the map picks are as follows
Liquid bans bind
g2 bans breeze
liquid picks split
g2 picks icebox
liquid bans fracture
g2 bans ascent

#12
Slashyiguess
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sliggy really has vlr doing his job for him 💀

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number1_ScreaM_fan
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JettEnjoyer [#9]

Then I'm sure Liquid can play Bind against G2 coz ScreaM can be used on Sage

On Haven ScreaM must be entry on Jett and Nivera awp. But they prac diff comps with scream on skye LMAO. So Haven needs to be permabanned

Fracture seems to me as a default permaban for Liquid, for the times when ScreaM learns Raze.

against other teams sure
against g2 absoluelty not. They won acend, m3c, guild on that map. not a risk to take

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Mortadelo [#8]

Scream Jett lmao

#screamgokill

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JettEnjoyer
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number1_ScreaM_fan [#13]

against other teams sure
against g2 absoluelty not. They won acend, m3c, guild on that map. not a risk to take

OK, may agree with you

Trade off for ban: Bind, Haven, Fracture

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if they pick icebox and bind, its gg for them

#17
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JettEnjoyer [#5]

I think so men, if Liquid will pay me in € I agree, cis countries have currency issues after poots war.

You’re not from north Belgium?

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JettEnjoyer
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thanatos11 [#17]

You’re not from north Belgium?

CIS

#19
number1_ScreaM_fan
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JettEnjoyer [#15]

OK, may agree with you

Trade off for ban: Bind, Haven, Fracture

fracture probably wont be a problem as g2 bans that aswell. haven still is but i doubt they will pick it over icebox which is also liquids weaker maps

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Acro_ [#16]

if they pick icebox and bind, its gg for them

liquid has to ban bind icebox i could see it going close

#21
SKara
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Yeah

#22
JettEnjoyer
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number1_ScreaM_fan [#11]

I hope the map picks are as follows
Liquid bans bind
g2 bans breeze
liquid picks split
g2 picks icebox
liquid bans fracture
g2 bans ascent

It's gg wp for Liquid then. I don't like their Split at all, I hate Split as the map. Very unstable map always 50/50

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number1_ScreaM_fan
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JettEnjoyer [#22]

It's gg wp for Liquid then. I don't like their Split at all, I hate Split as the map. Very unstable map always 50/50

split their better maps wdym

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number1_ScreaM_fan [#11]

I hope the map picks are as follows
Liquid bans bind
g2 bans breeze
liquid picks split
g2 picks icebox
liquid bans fracture
g2 bans ascent

They ban bind they win, they could do it on icebox but not bind

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tbh I dont think we should ban Haven against G2. We've got 8% higher winrate on it than G2 and have played it 29 more times than G2. Plus, last time we played G2, we beat them 13-8 on it.

Bans for us are:
Icebox
Bind

Bans for them are:
Breeze
Fracture

Picks for us are:
Haven

Picks for them are:
Ascent

Split remains

if these are the map picks I think we will 2-0 them

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number1_ScreaM_fan [#20]

liquid has to ban bind icebox i could see it going close

Icebox already went 15-13, liquid's bind is trash tho

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WinterZ [#25]

tbh I dont think we should ban Haven against G2. We've got 8% higher winrate on it than G2 and have played it 29 more times than G2. Plus, last time we played G2, we beat them 13-8 on it.

Bans for us are:
Icebox
Bind

Bans for them are:
Breeze
Fracture

Picks for us are:
Haven

Picks for them are:
Ascent

Split remains

if these are the map picks I think we will 2-0 them

Last time was against a totally different G2 tho, plus nukkye played fucking phoenix

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JettEnjoyer
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number1_ScreaM_fan [#23]

split their better maps wdym

Always close games

#29
JustEnjoying
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number1_ScreaM_fan [#19]

fracture probably wont be a problem as g2 bans that aswell. haven still is but i doubt they will pick it over icebox which is also liquids weaker maps

Happy to see how passionate both of you are

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WinterZ
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Giannero [#27]

Last time was against a totally different G2 tho, plus nukkye played fucking phoenix

last time he played raze. Last time we played them was only a couple days back

#31
JettEnjoyer
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WinterZ [#25]

tbh I dont think we should ban Haven against G2. We've got 8% higher winrate on it than G2 and have played it 29 more times than G2. Plus, last time we played G2, we beat them 13-8 on it.

Bans for us are:
Icebox
Bind

Bans for them are:
Breeze
Fracture

Picks for us are:
Haven

Picks for them are:
Ascent

Split remains

if these are the map picks I think we will 2-0 them

Don't ban haven, but don't use ScreaM on skye then or it's like playing with 4 instead of 5

#32
number1_ScreaM_fan
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JettEnjoyer [#28]

Always close games

they won against g2 pretty convincingly last time so i dont think it should be a problem doing it again

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JettEnjoyer
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JustEnjoying [#29]

Happy to see how passionate both of you are

You are enjoying ain't you

#34
WinterZ
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JettEnjoyer [#31]

Don't ban haven, but don't use ScreaM on skye then or it's like playing with 4 instead of 5

fair ig

#35
JustEnjoying
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JettEnjoyer [#33]

You are enjoying ain't you

What can I say, I really am :)

#36
JettEnjoyer
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JustEnjoying [#35]

What can I say, I really am :)

I'm enjoyingJett and ScreaM on Jett as well xD

#37
JustEnjoying
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JettEnjoyer [#36]

I'm enjoyingJett and ScreaM on Jett as well xD

xD

#38
fadezis
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Cringe, put ur ego down and respect ur favourite team's coach decisions or just change your favourite team

#39
number1_ScreaM_fan
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fadezis [#38]

Cringe, put ur ego down and respect ur favourite team's coach decisions or just change your favourite team

He just giving suggestions nothing wrong with tat?

#40
JettEnjoyer
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fadezis [#38]

Cringe, put ur ego down and respect ur favourite team's coach decisions or just change your favourite team

Cringe

#41
thanatos11
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JettEnjoyer [#18]

CIS

Fake flagger

#42
JettEnjoyer
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thanatos11 [#41]

Fake flagger

No

#43
fadezis
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number1_ScreaM_fan [#39]

He just giving suggestions nothing wrong with tat?

Imo Its kinda disrespectful to sliggy, pretty sure he knows better what his team should do and what not, surely he is doing more deeper analysis and under any decision there scrim results and a lot other arguments that no one of us can see and know.
Its not so simple and even if it is sliggy already knew about it earlier, so its kinda cringe for me when random user trying go give advice for pro coach, but just imo

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Giannero
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WinterZ [#30]

last time he played raze. Last time we played them was only a couple days back

They played bind that series? Shit mb then

#45
number1_ScreaM_fan
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fadezis [#43]

Imo Its kinda disrespectful to sliggy, pretty sure he knows better what his team should do and what not, surely he is doing more deeper analysis and under any decision there scrim results and a lot other arguments that no one of us can see and know.
Its not so simple and even if it is sliggy already knew about it earlier, so its kinda cringe for me when random user trying go give advice for pro coach, but just imo

theres nothing wrong with people posting their own takes its not offensive but everyone has their own opnions

#46
fadezis
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number1_ScreaM_fan [#45]

theres nothing wrong with people posting their own takes its not offensive but everyone has their own opnions

Agree with you, just this thread name too ambitious compared to this text)

#47
ciro
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Banning haven makes sense but against G2 its dumb, g2 are pretty bad on haven. Should ban bind first obviously because g2 is pretty good and 2nd ban prolly fracture. Their icebox comp (which g2 will pick) is fine but agent swaps in Icebox might happen

#48
thanatos11
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JettEnjoyer [#42]

No

Netherlands isn’t Cis

#49
UnrivaleD
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idk about the heaven ban since g2 is worst then liquid at it imo , but g2 sucked mainly due to the anoying chamber op of nivera , if tl doesnt have anything else in mind then they should ban it then , scream on jett is a must or maybe put him on kayo if else , skye takes a big time to master and she flashes for her teamates more than she flashed for herslef like kayo(in pro play not ranked lol), i believe tl can take it unless all 5 g2 players play the game of their lifes (hopefully and unlikey wont be the case)

#50
WinterZ
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Giannero [#44]

They played bind that series? Shit mb then

no they didnt. maps were Haven, Split and Icebox. Nukkye played raze on Split and Haven and he played Sova on Icebox

#51
UnrivaleD
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Mortadelo [#8]

Scream Jett lmao

scream jett vs your team 2days ago in icebox kekw

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