How to beat CS:GO scene and make them switch

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mSx

Guys RN we have NA-EU rivalry, which is basically non-existent in CS:GO rn. It brings massive viewership and bring lots of hype with all the trashtalk and banter. Not like CS:GO where it's the same 15 EU boring team that plays each other every week (except for Liquid and FURIA) in T2 or T3 events with dubious rules (see NiP rematch vs Anonymo shitshow).

Where do we go next ?

Improve CIS scene : give more opportunity to massive untapped talent pool in Russia and Ukrainia, give 1 or 2 slots for those regions.
More space/support for KR scene (think Faker, maybe they'll produce the next Faker of Valorant ?) and SEA in general
Turkish scene : lots of skilled players (cNed) etc... Surprised they aren't here
Maybe improve the skill ceiling ? (shooting mechanics, no random spray pattern, reward accurate and precise aim, aim penalty while running)
You'll never see those region in CS:GO and that's what is missing from Valve. U don't have clash of styles like Valorant.
IF they stay too complacent, Riot will come eat Valve's meal.

Any idea ?

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hiyo

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Mechanics is a good step. Once players are comfortable, make the game harder overall, increasing the possible level of competition and increasing the tier1 and tier 2 gap - "What makes a good player?"
Riot already tried(and kinda failed) to support Korean region. They need to combine with other regions to stay alive. Playerbase won't increase in Korea w/ PC Bangs not being able to play VALORANT
CIS scene: While there are loads of skilled players, Riot needs to help improve viewership there. There simply isn't that much interest in Russia rn about VALORANT.

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mSx

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ty for the reply
Riot should probably cash in on Nuturn international success, seeing how Korean are proud when their teams (whatever the sport) gains world recognition. It could be a great step for that region. Add more ads, sponsored contents with influencers and so on...
They could also make something like R6 ? with an APAC region during the first years to help develop the environment to succeed
But yeah PC bangs are a massive hindrance...
CIS scene : the problem is that Na'Vi and s1mple are superstars and play CS:GO. Russia is still not a rich country, so giving opportunity to make a good living (heard m0nesy which is a monster from the Na'Vi youth academy is paid 150 euros a month, around 200$/month) could make the younger ones switch which in turn will make more players come ? I'd die to see CIS compete at the highest level

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Glycoroldas

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Valve is already actively killing the scene by outsourcing TO role to dodgy subcontractors: https://twitter.com/Nors3/status/1398813274649546756
Although, Riot is also doing harm by outsourcing EMEA TO role to freaks4ugaming, but at least some changes are made after community backlash.
Still, it seems that Riot has found a better balance of making a scene competitive, than Valve did. From this point onward, either Valve changes direction or CS:GO is slowly going to become Dota2 in terms of scene relevance.

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mAko

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you know damn well valve will not give a about their game

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mSx

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yeah s1mple got destroyed 16-2 with Na'Vi, i watched the highlights dude they lost to a bunch of no namers with highly suspicious map awareness lmaooo
I honestly have so much more fun watching valorant rn than CS:GO (which i've basically watched since the beginning with VeryGames vs NiP all the way back to 2013)

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NA-EU rivalry was very strong back in 2018-2019, it brought ton of viewership and hype to CS matches. But since then, NA scene have slowly died and only Liquid atm can be able to compete with top teams in EU. Not only rivalry, Valorant need to grow very strong in Asia because CSGO never popular in this region