CHAMPS WINNERS

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YvngKurry

Am I the only one who feels like the Acend champs run was a fluke/wont happen again? In my eyes they have not been the most consistent team at all, I honestly do not think they can repeat the success they had again.

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Damn bruh I just wanted to have some good debate and conversation I didnt know this would trigger everyone.

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I mean someone will obviously replace them as the next champion.

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YvngKurry

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Yea but I meant success on the international/lan level. I feel like they might not even make it there.

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they have literally been more consistent than fnatic

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YvngKurry

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I never said anything about fnatic?

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who will make it to masters then?,liquid hasnt been anymore consistent too

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YvngKurry

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In the EMEA scene yes they have

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Liquid, Guild and gambit will make it.

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wdym obviously

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titanwithpp

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Someday some team will dethrone them to take the spot.

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asdfgh

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no shit

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titanwithpp

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Say that to yourself

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ok

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funnily enough they were the most consistent team in Europe with their masters 1 and other challengers titles seems weird how a lot of people say they are inconsistent

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YvngKurry

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Idk I feel like liquid and gambit are a whole lot more consistent

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asdfgh

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how??

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YvngKurry

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Gambit has placed top 1-2 in both lans they have played
In the EMEA scene, Liquid just seemed so dominant.

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asdfgh

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liquid were only dominant before champs

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YvngKurry

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LCQ?

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kristof

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acend won masters 1

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YvngKurry

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Yea they did however after that until masters 3 they had no success. Even in Masters 3 they did bad.

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kristof

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liquid had even less success

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YvngKurry

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Thats true, I just think that since I've seen Liquid play more Im biased

continue thread →

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kristof

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acend and gambit didnt even go to lcq

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YvngKurry

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I know...

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literally lcq with nivera was the only tourney liquid dominated in the entire year xd

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titanwithpp

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Consistency isn't just placing top though, Gambit failed to close out their maps in Champions. Its also about what you do to take the win. Despite being at NA's top last year (they won almost all qualifiers), SEN still managed to drop out of groups and by the end C9 took the top spot for NA despite C9 being less consistent than SEN.

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YvngKurry

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I dont think SEN is consistent at all. They were at the beginning of the year, however they were given a free pass to all the LANs and did not take advantage of it. Thats what lead to their poor performance in the end of the year. On the other hand, I do not think c9 are consistent at all either. No success in the beginning of the year, however they did pick things up in the LCQ. I think they have potential though!

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titanwithpp

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I just gave an example with a region, you're just too dense to understand the whole point.

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YvngKurry

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LOL, I do understand your point. You didnt give the best example though.

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same

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patuj

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This. People who say this clearly don't follow EU Valorant. I don't understand how winning Masters 1 and being consistent top 3 EU team and winning Champions makes them inconsistent? These people only watched Masters 3 and base their opinions around that. There was a reason why they were one of the favorites going into Masters 3 among people who actually followed their games. And then they dare to call teams like Team Liquid more consistent lol

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FightWasTaken

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ong fr their first lan they are young they didn't do that good and everyone judging them based on that

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Daniveus

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acend is not as consistent as other teams but has the highest peak, so anything could happen really

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PrTsty

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Gambit peak > acend peak, anyday

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arturo_fdez

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not today

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PrTsty

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If you think acends peak (barely winning against gambit) was higher then gambits peak, then thats just sad

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arturo_fdez

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1head take
also no one said winning gambit was their peak lmao

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delusional_sentinels_fan1

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Champs final

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ItsMeDio

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they won't qualify to master

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I agree
Acend are a great team don't get me wrong
But for some reason it doesn't even feel like they won Champions
If Gambit and Acend or Liquid and Acend played again, I'd still bet on Liquid and Gambit

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YvngKurry

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I honestly agreee

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agree

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justboy

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specially with the rumors that there is a beef between two of their players

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bunch of chokers that got lucky

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YvngKurry

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LMFAOOOO NO WAY YOU RESPONDED THIS IS THE PEAK OF MY VLR CAREER

I would LOVE to be disproved. This post was in no way any hate just my analysis of things and a conversation starter

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6vine

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💀

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u spitting a fact

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PrTsty

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This. But unironically

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FightWasTaken

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???
https://www.vlr.gg/49346/acend

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PrTsty

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Your point?

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vanns

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not false kekw

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Especially now with the news of cned tryna switch to NA, must have cost some issues.

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You have tail pain. or you are blind. Acend was the best team in Europe from the beginning.

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JokesOver

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wtf is a tail pain

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asdfgh

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if you feel this way you might aswell make a thread about kru being fluke

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YvngKurry

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I would, however they didn't get nearly as much success as acend. I would say that KRU have improved the most however, their run at champs was lucky

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agree also cned should leave from team and they will be tier45

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agree

#51

YvngKurry

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LMFAOOO WHY ARE SO MANY ACEND PLAYERS/COACHES HERE

this was the perfect thread to gain attention

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kristof

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ur cringe

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YvngKurry

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Im sorry have you gotten pro players and coaches to reply to your threads? i think not. On top of that have you gotten the champs to reply to your thread? I think not.

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FightWasTaken

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didn't you just call them flukers?😂

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YvngKurry

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I said I dont think they can repeat the same kind of success they did last year on the internation scale. This is all just for friendly debate. Im sure the teams do not care what others think of them after all they did prove they are the best in the world for now. I dont know why people are taking this to heart lol

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delusional_sentinels_fan1

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Says the guy posting bait under every thread

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i'm just here for upvotes 👍

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LETS GOOOOO LAKIA

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bandwagondestroyer

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lakia- yvngkurry 2022

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so true, feel bad for cNed's back

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With your logic pretty much every champ run going forwards will be a fluke. There is really really small chance that any team will win back to back Champions considering that it only happens once a year. Even winning 2 international tournaments back to back is pretty unlikely. And I don't understand what you mean with their inconsistency? They were arguably most consistent EU team last year. Outside of missing Masters 2 due to single elimination format (Sentinels lost 1 game as well) and underperformed in Masters 3 they were really consistent.

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Acends floor is LAN as long as they have cNed and zeek. They might not win another LAN but I have no doubt it wasnt a fluke.

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YvngKurry

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I told you guys. You just chose to hate me for not reason. Who had the last laugh kekw.

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lost 2 games in a meaningless group stage = fluke world champ

nice logic dude

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PrTsty

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ah yes meaningless group stage, they probably lost on bind against G2 because it was meaningless to them

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they won a series

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They’ve lost 2 series. And they’ve gotten owned in both series. Cope harder

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commonW

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that doesnt affect the fact that they owned everyone in champs

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YvngKurry

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They can’t replicate the results. They got saved by riot, and when given fair matches they get owned.

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commonW

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of course riot gonna do something if someone is blatantly abusing exploits
and in the replay acend beat them convincingly

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"in the replay acend beat them convincingly"

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commonW

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bronzil arrived

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PrTsty

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expect for Vivo Keyd

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kristof

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they won against vivo keyd bro 2-1
whats ur point

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Copium. They have 2 maps they are good on and even then they lost on their best map vs g2 kekw

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commonW

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wdym 2? they are good on all the maps bro

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Def not breeze fracture haven. They can only win on split and bind convincingly.

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commonW

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theyre good on breeze,icebox,haven,bind,ascent

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They gave up a huge lead vs gambit on breeze and lost breeze vs guild. They got destroyed on fracture vs gambit and guild. They got destroyed on haven vs fnatic just now. They lost convincingly vs g2 on bind. What’s ur point

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that makes their champs winning even greater if you think about it.
the other teams are so bad that even acend owned them on these maps

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What kind of logic is that Lmfao

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true

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EUisbetter

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they beat everyone on every map throughout multiple tournaments now they lost once we gonna call their entire thing a fluke?

nice logic dude again

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even gambit and liquid are in a slump right now, wtf are you saying

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EMEA qualifiers one of hardest one, mb even hardest then some lan events actually

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Teams keep evolving, and Acend got stuck a bit.
Still, I think Gambit was the best team around Champions.
But let's not forget that Gambit tends to choke against clearly inferior teams from time to time: 100T (Masters Berlin), Acend (Champions) and now FPX.
They should've won those matches comfortably, but they didn't.

Still, Acend was definitely one of the top teams back in Champions times.

Now? Probably still one of the top teams, but now they compete against more teams: Gambit, FPX, Liquid, Fnatic, Guild, G2... And that's just in EU.

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Gambit choked . But historically Gambit has always had trouble dealing with cNeds playstyle , nAts mentioned it before champions in an interview too .

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:)

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kbkdark

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DAMN BRO

You're a prophet 😮

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biggest flukers are still LOUD

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Nah... LOUD still relevant, if we get grouped (as I think we will), there I can agree with you